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How much in Camera Sharpening on the 400D or your camera do you use?, and does it make a difference? I have had mine on standard, since I got my camera, and someone said to me put the sharpening right up.
 
Hi Dave,

I've just started to experiment with this as I used to think the pictures I took looked very dull/flat/soft straight from the camera. I am only using 'standard' picture style to try it out, but I have upped the sharpening to 5 and the contrast to 1 and the shots look much better in the camera.

I suppose whatever settings are in the camera it can all be sorted out in PP anyway :shrug:

But I do prefer to see a better looking image straight after I've taken it.

Neil
 
fabs said:
But does it make any difference if you shoot in RAW? (I'm guessing it would only affect the image you see on the screen on the back of the camera) :shrug:
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I thought that Marc, it only effects the image you see on the preview screen also, would be interested to see what others think on this subject

neilmac said:
Hi Dave,

I've just started to experiment with this as I used to think the pictures I took looked very dull/flat/soft straight from the camera. I am only using 'standard' picture style to try it out, but I have upped the sharpening to 5 and the contrast to 1 and the shots look much better in the camera.

I suppose whatever settings are in the camera it can all be sorted out in PP anyway :shrug:

But I do prefer to see a better looking image straight after I've taken it.

Neil
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Cheers Neil, I would be interested to hear the results of your trials

Dave
 
Only makes a difference if you shoot jpg.
 
It's a very good feature for the G9, so handy in Gig surroundings :)
 
fabs said:
But does it make any difference if you shoot in RAW? (I'm guessing it would only affect the image you see on the screen on the back of the camera) :shrug:
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I hadn't considered that, i've just upped the sharpness buy a couple of points as i find that i always have to sharpen my shots in PP and i thought this would save that time.

I'll have to try a couple of shots later and find out if Neil doesn't get there first.
 
Don't own the 400D but always use RAW as I much prefer to tailor image sharpening to my final output (print, web display etc).
Using in-camera sharpening reduces the flexibility you have in Post-Processing, although it also reduces your time spent at a PC if you are happy with in-camera results

simon
 
Mojo Jojo said:
i never knew it was there! how do i get to it?
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Its on tab2/ picture Style/standard/ Jump/Sharpness

Steep said:
Only makes a difference if you shoot jpg.
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Cheers Steep

simonkit said:
Don't own the 400D but always use RAW as I much prefer to tailor image sharpening to my final output (print, web display etc).
Using in-camera sharpening reduces the flexibility you have in Post-Processing, although it also reduces your time spent at a PC if you are happy with in-camera results

simon
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Yes better shooting Raw

robbie t said:
I hadn't considered that, i've just upped the sharpness buy a couple of points as i find that i always have to sharpen my shots in PP and i thought this would save that time.

I'll have to try a couple of shots later and find out if Neil doesn't get there first.
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Look forward to the results

Emita said:
It's a very good feature for the G9, so handy in Gig surroundings :)
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thanks everyone

Dave
 
D'you not shoot raw dave? I dont think ANY of the 'processing' features make the slightest bit of difference to raw files. The only thing that does is the WB (which you can alter later) but I have started leaving set on 'daylight' so that I know every image will be the same initially from a batch.
 
This is what makes me laugh so much about the 'straight out of the camera' brigade. You can whack up the saturdation/sharpening/contrast in camera if you are shooting JPEG and you'll get totally different results straight out of the camera.

As has been mentioned, if shooting in RAW it only applies to the preview you see on the back of the camera.
 
Cheers Lee, :thumbs: I was aware that it didn't make any difference in RAW, but was unsure about jpgs, I thought it was just the preview as with raw,

Ta Olv :thumbs:
 
Havent used it in camera myself, but I think its probably best do to in post processing, because you can actually choose the amount of sharpening for each individual picture
 
Never ever used to use this but have found it makes a great difference, especially on the landscape shots.
Sharpening up 2 notches and saturtion up 1 notch... thats on my 40D :)

Cheers,
 
fabs said:
But does it make any difference if you shoot in RAW? (I'm guessing it would only affect the image you see on the screen on the back of the camera) :shrug:
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The image shown in the back of the camera is always a jpeg, even if you are shooting RAW.
 
trigger said:
Havent used it in camera myself, but I think its probably best do to in post processing, because you can actually choose the amount of sharpening for each individual picture
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Tigger thats my conclusion :thumbs:

Ryan.S said:
Never ever used to use this but have found it makes a great difference, especially on the landscape shots.
Sharpening up 2 notches and saturtion up 1 notch... thats on my 40D :)

Cheers,
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Ok I'll do some test shots, next time I'm out, Ryan :thumbs:

will69 said:
The image shown in the back of the camera is always a jpeg, even if you are shooting RAW.
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Thanks but we already knew that :thumbs:
 
Hi Dave

I use the 400D. The in camera sharpening only effects the image on the screen and Jpeg files. If you shoot RAW this is not affected. I use PSE6 for PP and I find the sharpening setting needs to be between 75 to 100 @ 2 pixels radius.
But this will depend on the quality of glass used.

Paul
 
POAH said:
best to leave the sharpning at the lowest point.
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yep thats what I always do leave at default

Hobbytog said:
Hi Dave

I use the 400D. The in camera sharpening only effects the image on the screen and Jpeg files. If you shoot RAW this is not affected. I use PSE6 for PP and I find the sharpening setting needs to be between 75 to 100 @ 2 pixels radius.
But this will depend on the quality of glass used.

Paul
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thats what I thought, but someone said put it up higher, think I'll stick to what Ive always used, but Im still do an experiment for the jpgs next time Im out
 
Just Dave said:
Its on tab2/ picture Style/standard/ Jump/Sharpness
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Once I get to that bit how do I go up/down notches? I can't for the life of me work it out:shrug:

EDIT: I've worked it out. Click set, then twiddle the wotsit. I can be so dumb at times!
 
If you use canon digital photo pro software, it can read the sharpness settings from the RAW file to what you set to in the camera.

It certain looks sharper in there than bridge which will reset the file to default colour/contrast/sharpness

sid
 
Ok, there seems to be some conflicting/confusing answers in this thread (well to me anyway, but i am hoplessly simple :bonk:).

I recently upped the sharpness by 2 notches and the contrast by 1 notch as i found these to be lacking in all the pictures i took before. When i process my RAW images (i always shoot RAW) in the Canon software that came with my 400d it has these settings saved there and saves me from doing it manually. Overall i have more shots i'm happy with straight out :thumbs:
 
Ithink if you use DPP then you can keep all the settings but other software doesnt notice it if you process using that.

PS i cant seem to dock my pallets in DPP thats why I dont use it... it stays floating and gets on my nerves.. Id like a stable work area like cs3 and lightoom :(
 
Just upped mine and changed the filter to red for monochrome will do some test shot tomorrow.

Regards Mark.
 
fabs said:
But does it make any difference if you shoot in RAW? (I'm guessing it would only affect the image you see on the screen on the back of the camera) :shrug:
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As others have said, if you use DPP to process the images then any settings you made in the camera will be transfered to the tools palette when you open the image, you can then of course change this as you wish.

HTH

David
 
When I shot in jpeg only, I found that the higher the in camera sharpening the harder it was to get the sharpening right during pp. So in the end I put it back to factory settings. I'm shooting RAW 100% of the time now, so it doesn't really make any difference to me.
 
It's not as bad as you would think Dave, give it a go. I avoided it for ages, but now I feel daft for doing so :)
 
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