Image Size for Alamy

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Hi,

I've recently signed up for alamy.

I uploaded my 4 picture QC submission which passed first time!

I am a wee nit confused as to the file sizes that alamy wants. I orginally processed the files in Lr3 and exported them as full sized Jpegs. These came out at between 9-13mb. I subitted these images which have been passed and accepted (I've just finished keywording).

talking to a mate of mine and reading the submission guidelines I though these images would be too small? I thought he required images of at least 24mb?

Whats the deal here? should I be upscaling all my images in PS first or just keep submitting as I have been?


thanks




stevie
 
Yes but what does that actually mean with regards to the sizes I'm uploading? Is the file I export from Lr3 Compressed to 10mb?

(its a 5dmkII shooting full raw)
 
keep submitting as you have been. The 24 mb min refers, as Tom says, to the uncompressed format not the jpeg. If you upsize your jpegs you may have issues passing some of Alamy's other requirements, and the upload wuill automatically reject any too small
 
Uncompressed file sizes of more than 24MB. This means you should make your JPEG file from an 8 bit TIFF file that is at least 24MB. If you have a camera that is capable of producing an uncompressed 8 bit file of over 24MB then leave it that size.

I was also looking at this the other day.

Does it mean that the end file can be any file size ?
 
JPEG is a compressed format - you were confusing FILE size and IMAGE size. You can check the image size in photoshop. IMAGE >> IMAGE SIZE - Alamy require 24mb minimum - only recently downgraded from 48mb minimum. You are still better to supply 48mb images if your camera is capable as this opens up more uses - more markets. All my images go to Alamy as 48mb+ jpegs - and that includes images from the 4.1 mp D2Hs!
 
Awp - So should I be making an effort to resize my images?

I'm from the 'good shire' to - The Gow originally.
 
Travel down to the Gow quite often - I do freelance work for the Gazette.

I think it's better to upsize - I send all my images at 5050 px longest side which makes them 48.1MB. If you have bigger images you do open up more markets - provided you retain quality to pass the QC.
 
Straight out of Lr the image is 5616px x 3744px Pixel dimensions 60.2m - I assume that that is a 60mb file then?

Hardly in the gow myself much - moved over to ayrshire. still work in South Lshire
 
where are you reading the pixel dimensions in LR?
 
Straight out of Lr the image is 5616px x 3744px Pixel dimensions 60.2m - I assume that that is a 60mb file then?

Hardly in the gow myself much - moved over to ayrshire. still work in South Lshire


I have sent files from a 30D to Alamy no problem when the needed 48mb size, they have now halved tha so I would have less problems getting an image through QC now with a 30D.

With a 30D I had to upsize144% now I think I did by upsizing only101%
 
yep - that's the uncompressed file size - I thought you'd found a way to get that info inside LR!
 
Hope you don't mind me asking a question in your thread.

I start witha RAW file 10669 kb
Go through Canon Photo Professional to 8 bit tiff 24108 kb
Come out with 6466 kb jpg

Would I send the final jpg ?
Why (to them) does this differ from a similar sized jpg if just shot as jpg in camera ?
 
Hope you don't mind me asking a question in your thread.

I start witha RAW file 10669 kb
Go through Canon Photo Professional to 8 bit tiff 24108 kb
Come out with 6466 kb jpg

Would I send the final jpg ?
Why (to them) does this differ from a similar sized jpg if just shot as jpg in camera ?

You don't need to make a tiff at all just output the RAW as JPEG upsizing if necessary. If the jpeg is small then the final use would have to be smaller too. Many customers want to use pics as full paes or larger and need bigger files to do that.

If I'm getting a 60mb file straight from the camera Then I'll not bother with any resizing.

cheers

What camera are you using? Just out of interest.
 
You don't need to make a tiff at all just output the RAW as JPEG upsizing if necessary. If the jpeg is small then the final use would have to be smaller too. Many customers want to use pics as full paes or larger and need bigger files to do that.

So when I convert RAW to JPG I have an option to either increase the physical size of the image (pixels/cm etc) or specify the output resolution which currently says 350.
 
I don't know Canon software - but if you can specifiy the pixels then that's what matters - you can then check the un-compressed file size to make sure it is above 24mb (or 48mb) and that's it. You should check the Alamy forum too there is always some good advice there.
 
So if I can increase my the size (pixels) I'm looking to convert my 10MB Raw file into a jpg greater than 24MB.

This is where I don't understand.

If I don't have to send them the 24 MB file (like the first post in this thread) - why am I going through all these steps to produce it ?
 
So if I can increase my the size (pixels) I'm looking to convert my 10MB Raw file into a jpg greater than 24MB.

This is where I don't understand.

If I don't have to send them the 24 MB file (like the first post in this thread) - why am I going through all these steps to produce it ?

You've lost me now. You have to send them a jpeg file with an uncompressed size of at least 24mb. The FILE size is not 24mb the IMAGE size is.
 
You've lost me now. You have to send them a jpeg file with an uncompressed size of at least 24mb. The FILE size is not 24mb the IMAGE size is.

Ah I see.

I was going by there site which specifies a minimum file size of 24MB
 
Submission guidelines
We need:

* JPEG’s saved at a high quality setting (i.e. Photoshop level 10 or above).
* Alpha-numeric file names ending in .jpg.
* RGB files, not single channel greyscale or CMYK.
* Uncompressed file sizes of more than 24MB. This means you should make your JPEG file from an 8 bit TIFF file that is at least 24MB. If you have a camera that is capable of producing an uncompressed 8 bit file of over 24MB then leave it that size.

Making the jpeg from a tiff is only one way to do it! It is confusing - the wording they use on Alamy. Trust me I have over 2,000 images there now!
 
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Yep - that's the bit that confused me.

Cheers for the mention of the forum - went and found this.

Our required file size for submitting Jpegs seems to cause an incomprehensible amount of confusion with a high volume of photographers. Put simply, we are flabbergasted as to how many times we are asked, daily, of what format and size of images we require!

Let’s set the record straight right now. First and foremost, yes, we want you to send Jpegs. No, we don’t want you to send Tiffs.

The reason for this is that we provide our clients with Jpegs to download, not Tiffs. It’s been industry standard to work like this for a long time now and even in the days when we required you to send us Tiffs, we converted them to Jpeg for the clients. Yes we know Jpeg is a lossy format, but to the naked eye, there is no visible difference between a high quality Jpeg and a Tiff file. The client can simply download the Jpeg, save it as a Tiff, and work away on it saving as many times as they like without loss in quality. It’s really that simple!
Now that’s out of the way let’s move onto file size. Jpeg is a compressed file format. The compressed file size (size on disk) varies with picture content and should generally be ignored, as long as it’s no bigger than 25MB, which is our upper limit for Jpeg size. What’s important is the uncompressed (opened) file size. The opened file must be at least 24MB at 8 bit to get through our quality control. Typically a 24MB 8 bit Tiff file will be between 2MB and 5MB as a Jpeg if your image was shot digitally. Film scans will be larger. This is because Jpeg “sees” film grain as image detail and compresses it too. Remember, we do not want a Jpeg 24MB in size as that would be ridiculously large when uncompressed (opened)!
One thing you don’t want to do is work on your images whilst they are in Jpeg form, repeatedly saving as you go along. Saving a Jpeg as a Jpeg is pretty much a no no, as you are recompressing an already compressed file.

Now there are various ways of doing this, but an ideal workflow example for creating the required file size would be:

* Convert your image into an 8 bit Tiff file (save as, Tiff)
* In an image editing program such as Photoshop, upsize the image to a minimum of 24MB (if you need to).
* Make any alterations as needed, inspect the image carefully at 100%
* At the very last step save your image as a Jpeg and send us that Jpeg. Remember, the Jpeg is the compressed size so this will typically be between 2MB-5MB

There are a handful of digital cameras on the market that produce native uncompressed file sizes above 24MB so you will not need to do the above for those. The same goes for film scans.
Remember to also inspect your images carefully in accordance with our submission guidelines, found here:
 
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