Image posting etiquette

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Just looked on a few critique threads and I have noticed that on several of them, people not necessarily giving critique have posted images of their own.
Now I wouldn't do this unless asked, but I cannot find any guidance as to what the etiquette is when doing this.
Now, please, I don't want an argument over this, it was just an observation while browsing, but I would be interested in your thoughts.
 
Ive always thought it was unwelcome to be honest. I wouldnt do it unless asked.
 
Unwarranted / uncalled for "thread bombing" I agree, its Impolite at best ;)
RTM it, if it happens to you, and we will remove said image :)
 
IMO (and it's only my opinion!), if the image in the reply is helpful to the OP, it's OK but using someone else's thread as a springboard for your own images is a no-no.
 
Nod said:
IMO (and it's only my opinion!), if the image in the reply is helpful to the OP, it's OK but using someone else's thread as a springboard for your own images is a no-no.
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As per the other thread, if you want to use an example of your image, to help,
then its only fair that you ask first.
Pimping your own images in someone else's thread however, will lead to
a night in the stocks and rotten fruit thrown :D
 
Thanks for the replies peeps.
Just read all the replies in that thread, and as usual it deteriorates into an argument by page 2.
However, it appears that we do have some guidance come out of it.

"It seems that the green team are in agreement.
And a new guideline is to be added to "forum etiquette"
(once its been worded correctly)
But it's to the effect of, unsolicited images are requested not to be posted in any thread.
If you think you can help by showing the op an example of "how to"
Then ask first.
Along the lines of "If it'll help, I could post a link / image to shots to illustrate what I mean"
and then wait for the reply from the OP (and only from the OP!) (y)"

Seems like it's a reasonable thing to do.
 
...and while we're on the subject of "playing nice" when posting images - can we keep the sizes down to something manageable please - i'm gettling more and more occurrences of a thread with half a dozen images in at 4,912px × 3,264px or something similar. Now, I'm not on a slow connection, but it takes so long to open some of these threads I've already hit the "back" button and left the thread. I'm sure many others do so too. Try if you can to keep it to something in the region of 1024px x 1024px maximum (or if you MUST post something larger - post a link to it, with a warning for the file sizes) - this way, at least the poor benighted souls who may be browsing using a pay-per-byte dongle whilst mobile have the option of not spending half their salary on looking at your images.
 
TheBigYin said:
...and while we're on the subject of "playing nice" when posting images - can we keep the sizes down to something manageable please - i'm gettling more and more occurrences of a thread with half a dozen images in at 4,912px × 3,264px or something similar. Now, I'm not on a slow connection, but it takes so long to open some of these threads I've already hit the "back" button and left the thread. I'm sure many others do so too. Try if you can to keep it to something in the region of 1024px x 1024px maximum (or if you MUST post something larger - post a link to it, with a warning for the file sizes) - this way, at least the poor benighted souls who may be browsing using a pay-per-byte dongle whilst mobile have the option of not spending half their salary on looking at your images.
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Absolutely Mark,
I've recently picked up on a few that are also approaching 10Mb.
200-500 Kb is plenty to show off your images ;)
 
i only ever put a photo of my own up to give an example of what i'm talking about in a "help" thread.hth mike
 
dinorock said:
i only ever put a photo of my own up to give an example of what i'm talking about in a "help" thread.hth mike
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But do you ask first?
I'm not being critical, just asking the question.
 
From my experience and how I'd like to think as a community we can act is pact of mutual respect, I wouldn't post an image just to show it off or get comments it others threads, I will however not hesitate to post an image as a learning/demonstration tool e.g. If you see here how using different settings or doing X would have helped :thumbs:

As to image size I did suggest a few months back increasing the permitted image size and as I understand the new rules it maybe that slightly larger images now can be posted but I do understand the need to be reasonable and personally think that it's unfair to dump massive files into a thread and those of us on sub par connections suffer so would not post larger that 1600px at the most though in all honesty tend to stick to 800-1024px
 
MWHCVT said:
I will however not hesitate to post an image as a learning/demonstration tool e.g. If you see here how using different settings or doing X would have helped (y)
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I'd like to hope common courtesy would dictate that you ask for permission first?
Would be quite rude to just do it IMO.
 
robhooley167 said:
I'd like to hope common courtesy would dictate that you ask for permission first?
Would be quite rude to just do it IMO.
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Simply put no, if I'm putting a photo into a thread I'm doing to aid any critique I'm offering, I'm not going to ask someones permission to offer critique, this photo is part of the critique nothing more...as was made abundantly in what I wrote that you've not quoted..if you take the whole paragraph rather than a single sentence from it then its nothing to do with common courtesy, are you going to ask permission from a thread starter to post comments on the content of the thread? Of course your not that would kill the forum as you just wouldn't bother starting the process
 
In the first sentence of the OP 'I have noticed that on several of them, people not necessarily giving critique have posted images of their own.'
That was what I was wondering when I asked about the etiquette of posting images in other peoples threads.
Obviously if the critique is given for an image and a photo will expand on the critique/method, then no permission is required, or shouldn't be.
But I'm more concerned about the 'This is how your image should look' kind of posting, more 'showing off' as one person put it.
When asking for honest and helpful critique, surely any other unwanted images on the posting wouldn't help.
Under all circumstances, personally I would ask first
 
wontolla said:
But do you ask first?
I'm not being critical, just asking the question.
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to be honest NO if a person has asked for help on eg dust on a sensor and i have a photo showing that ,and i think it will help i just put it up to show them i am "trying to help" so asking first seems pointless, or else why ask for help in the first place. as i said only if i thought it would help the op cheers mike.
 
robhooley167 said:
I'd like to hope common courtesy would dictate that you ask for permission first?
Would be quite rude to just do it IMO.
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Why would it be rude to post an image that makes that graphically illustrates a point that will help them improve their own work? Isn't that what they were posting for in the first place if it's a critique thread? I do it often.. not necessarily with my own images either... just whatever will help the person in question. Sometimes explaining an idea in writing, especially with beginners is far less effective than just showing them. Mike's response above is a perfect example.
 
I don't see a problem if it is used to illustrate a point in the critique but it is a bit naff to dump an image and run!
 
On the 24th Feb, I was looking through a few image threads, and noticed that a new member had posted his pictures in someone elses threads, as the subject was the same. They werent offered as help with critique, they were just dumped there as a kind of 'Ooh look, I was at the same event, look at my photos, what do you think'. I sent the new member a really friendly message just saying that I appreciated that he was new, but that it was considered a bit rude to do this kind of thing, and I could anticipate him either being reported or jumped on. So just a friendly warning really. I note from his profile that he has posted on the forum since then, but not even bothered to acknowledge my message.

I was just trying to help...
 
Nikon_Nick said:
On the 24th Feb, I was looking through a few image threads, and noticed that a new member had posted his pictures in someone elses threads, as the subject was the same. They werent offered as help with critique, they were just dumped there as a kind of 'Ooh look, I was at the same event, look at my photos, what do you think'. I sent the new member a really friendly message just saying that I appreciated that he was new, but that it was considered a bit rude to do this kind of thing, and I could anticipate him either being reported or jumped on. So just a friendly warning really. I note from his profile that he has posted on the forum since then, but not even bothered to acknowledge my message.

I was just trying to help...
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If you spot a "dump and run" like that send us a Hamstergram (RTM it!) and one of the green team will have a gentle word, and maybe move the photo's into a separate thread for them... we're often quite a bit harder to ignore :lol:
 
Fair enough :D

Just wanted to avoid him being reported, in case he turned out to be the kind that would spit the dummy and never came back because we were being 'unfriendly'.

Can we have a pitchfork and torch smilie for next time? ;)
 
pitchforkmob.gif
fill 'yer boots...
 
What about if "Edit my images" is yes and posting back an altered/edited version of the OPs critique image? i.e. not one of your own images. Acceptable?
 
DorsetDude said:
What about if "Edit my images" is yes and posting back an altered/edited version of the OPs critique image? i.e. not one of your own images. Acceptable?
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If its yes then they have already given their permission, no need to ask again
 
Nikon_Nick said:
On the 24th Feb, I was looking through a few image threads, and noticed that a new member had posted his pictures in someone elses threads, as the subject was the same. They werent offered as help with critique, they were just dumped there as a kind of 'Ooh look, I was at the same event, look at my photos, what do you think'. I sent the new member a really friendly message just saying that I appreciated that he was new, but that it was considered a bit rude to do this kind of thing, and I could anticipate him either being reported or jumped on. So just a friendly warning really. I note from his profile that he has posted on the forum since then, but not even bothered to acknowledge my message.
I was just trying to help...
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I know know who you mean and I killed off a few of those.
I could of course have missed a some. If you think I did, as Mark say's hit the RTM button :thumbs:

And yes I agree, it was a bit rude of them, not to acknowledge the "heads up"
 
Cobra said:
I know know who you mean and I killed off a few of those.
I could of course have missed a some. If you think I did, as Mark say's hit the RTM button (y)

And yes I agree, it was a bit rude of them, not to acknowledge the "heads up"
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Just don't break it ;) they cost a fortune to replace so I'm told them little buttons
 
MWHCVT said:
Just don't break it ;) they cost a fortune to replace so I'm told them little buttons
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You wore yours out years ago Matt
We've replaced it 3 times so far this year alone :p
 
I started the thread referred to and I still would ask for ANY photos added to my threads to be removed, whether it be the poster's view of what is right or something else, at least have the courtesy to ask first
Yes I would be ok with people's edited versions of my images but in my opinion anything else is just bad manners, add a link not the pictre
 
Cobra said:
You wore yours out years ago Matt
We've replaced it 3 times so far this year alone :p
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You need to stop buying cheap 3rd party ones ;) as I've hardly touched my in months :p
 
I am dying to post some pics in a thread so people can see what i am talking about as i cant seem to get my point accross.., the thread is a couple of weeks old.... But I havent and I wouldn't...Just doesnt seem right.. I ahve never read the TP forum attiquette and I wont be doing.. If your 12 yers old then go read it.. adults shouldn't have to :)
 
DorsetDude said:
What about if "Edit my images" is yes and posting back an altered/edited version of the OPs critique image? i.e. not one of your own images. Acceptable?
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That would be most acceptable because that's what the critique asks for and permission is already given.
 
KIPAX said:
I am dying to post some pics in a thread so people can see what i am talking about as i cant seem to get my point accross.., the thread is a couple of weeks old.... But I havent and I wouldn't...Just doesnt seem right.. I ahve never read the TP forum etiquette and I wont be doing.. If your 12 yers old then go read it.. adults shouldn't have to :)
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You could always ask the OP if he/she minded if you posted the images though, then you would be helping answer the query or whatever. (y)
 
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