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Any of the bodies will do what you want, it's the lenses that will make a difference.
As I am a Canon user I can't offer any advice on the Nikons.
All three are discontinued so you are looking to buy a used body.
Ideally you will want to hold them and see how they feel before making your mind up.
You could spend a significant amount of time using one so you will want to make sure it is comfortable to hold
The Canon 450D is quite a small body so if you have small hands it would be fine.
The control layout differs between both makes as well.
Obviously as you are looking at buying a used body, unless you know someone who ones of them or you can find one in a shop, it's going to be hard to try them in your hands.
How much is your budget, you might be able to buy new.
As I am a Canon user I can't offer any advice on the Nikons.
All three are discontinued so you are looking to buy a used body.
Ideally you will want to hold them and see how they feel before making your mind up.
You could spend a significant amount of time using one so you will want to make sure it is comfortable to hold
The Canon 450D is quite a small body so if you have small hands it would be fine.
The control layout differs between both makes as well.
Obviously as you are looking at buying a used body, unless you know someone who ones of them or you can find one in a shop, it's going to be hard to try them in your hands.
How much is your budget, you might be able to buy new.
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Rita said:
Like what hashcake said, all three cameras are discontinued. So u need to look for used ones. In my opinion, all three cameras can serve u well. But if you are really into serious landscapes, sports, and macro works, there's something for each bit. For landscapes, mostly wide angle lenses is good, so u might wanna look into that. For serious sports, requires some fast lenses and fast fps to capture those motions and moments. And for macro works, u might wanna look into macro lenses to get a better close up range. But if u are doing all this for fun and not that serious, the kit lens (usually they will provide it with the camera) will serve u fine.
Thanks for both your comments, my budget is around 250 - 300 pounds and yes i'm doing it for fun at the moment. I have big hands so the canon may not suit me. If i see one which has 3500 apatures(is this called the shutter count?)on it, would it still be ok to buy or what is the limit on apatures on second hand dslr's.
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I think you are getting confused. Aperture is the size of the hole in the lens, it has nothing to do with the camera body.
I think you are refering to the number of pictures the body has taken, usually called shutter count or actuations.
On the cameras you listed, the shutter is rated to something like 100,000. This doesnt mean it will die as soon as it hit that, its just what they have been tested too. It may last for many more, or many less.
I think you are refering to the number of pictures the body has taken, usually called shutter count or actuations.
On the cameras you listed, the shutter is rated to something like 100,000. This doesnt mean it will die as soon as it hit that, its just what they have been tested too. It may last for many more, or many less.
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The Nikon D40 is also very small too BTW. I suggest you go to a shop and try out the Nikon D3100, this is roughly the same size as the D40x. If this is too small, you need to up your budget a bit and look at a D70, D80 or D90.
Just stay away from the likes of the D7000 or D700, your credit card will hate you!
May be... but you might very happy lol
I don't think you will be able to get all those topics covers in one lens and with your budget possibly only one type of shots.
I'm a nikon man and I can recommend :
- the tokina 11-16mm - only minor distortion and great wide approx 400 new, 300+ used
- the 105mm micro nikkor (the non vr one) - used 300+ but worth it
I don't have a sports/zoom yet but was considering:
- sigma (bigma) 50-500mm - 600+ used
- tokina 80-400mm - 350+
There is a 70-300mm for 100+ used but it would only be so you can see the reach. I think the iq (quality of image) is not as good as the 70-300mm vr at around 300+
Its an expensive game, but can give great results. So good luck with your camera choice and lenses
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LOL, i have learned more from this post than surfing the net.
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That's what this place is all about, very friendly and helpful.
You don't need google or any other forum when it comes to photography, TP is the race track and pitstop
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That's what this place is all about, very friendly and helpful.
You don't need google or any other forum when it comes to photography, TP is the race track and pitstop
And the crash barrier when it all goes tits up.
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And the crash barrier when it all goes tits up.
That normally happens at meetings when the banter is transfered from the oof section 
I will be back on with some tech support when i need it lol......i had the nikon d3100, canon 500d and the nikon d5000 in my hand today and i think the nikon is the best fit for me.
All i need to do now is to one that is good value.
Thanks for all your help
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All i need to do now is to one that is good value.
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Since you mentioned sport (I presume you mean serious sport photography) you should go higher up the market. 1D mark II offers excellent price and performance ratio. Give it a good lens, and the whole thing will only be limited by the person behind it.
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Definitely get the one you like the feel of.
Take a look at lenses too. Spend more money on lenses, you'll see far more of a difference from quality lenses than from spending more money on a better body.
For landscapes, the nikkor 18-55 VR kitlens is supposed to be very decent, I expect you can get a D3100 bundled with one of these.
For something a bit better for landscapes, a tokina 11-16mm will go a lot wider than the kitlens to really take in huge landscapes, or something like a tamron 17-50mm (non VC version is sharper) f/2.8 for a similar focal length range to the kitlens.
A tripod is a must for landscapes, you can do much longer exposures and get sharp shots on a tripod, so you can shoot at ISO 100 in any light and no worries about camera shake.
For close up (I presume you mean getting close to small subjects) a good macro lens is best, something like the tamron 90mm f/2.8 or sigma 105mm or 70mm will perform nicely for not too much cash. You'll need flash, a tripod or good light for macro though.
For sport, something like the nikkor 55-200mm should do OK on a budget. It won't be great in low light, but you're looking at spending a LOT for something faster like a 70-200 f/2.8 though.
Hope that helps.
Take a look at lenses too. Spend more money on lenses, you'll see far more of a difference from quality lenses than from spending more money on a better body.
For landscapes, the nikkor 18-55 VR kitlens is supposed to be very decent, I expect you can get a D3100 bundled with one of these.
For something a bit better for landscapes, a tokina 11-16mm will go a lot wider than the kitlens to really take in huge landscapes, or something like a tamron 17-50mm (non VC version is sharper) f/2.8 for a similar focal length range to the kitlens.
A tripod is a must for landscapes, you can do much longer exposures and get sharp shots on a tripod, so you can shoot at ISO 100 in any light and no worries about camera shake.
For close up (I presume you mean getting close to small subjects) a good macro lens is best, something like the tamron 90mm f/2.8 or sigma 105mm or 70mm will perform nicely for not too much cash. You'll need flash, a tripod or good light for macro though.
For sport, something like the nikkor 55-200mm should do OK on a budget. It won't be great in low light, but you're looking at spending a LOT for something faster like a 70-200 f/2.8 though.
Hope that helps.