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The stoics would suggest there were two fools here.

Fool no. 1 behaves in an annoying way.

Fool no. 2 believes that it's up to him to somehow correct the stupidity of fool no. 1.

Marcus Aurelius pointed out long ago that there are a vast number of fools in the world. It is a large and challenging professional task to correct the idiocy of just one fool. We have a expensive apparatus of schools and courts, officials and even armies to keep fools from doing stupid things.

You will collapse with exhaustion and stress if you set out on a one-person crusade to go round correcting every fool you encounter.

So don't. Let them go by.

(I've long thought that there was a bit of a mismatch in the case of Marcus Aurelius, who was also a Roman emperor and quite a good one, that he believed that there was no point in correcting fools, when he of all people was at the top of the most powerful correctional apparatus in Europe. But maybe he knew what he was talking about.)
 
Yeah, but Aurelius, like many Roman Emperors, just killed everyone who disagreed with him as well...

I didn't seek to correct anyone's behaviour, but calling him names, while at the same time, petty, childish and stupid also makes me feel better and lets him know he's p'd me off...so that maybe, just maybe - he'll think better next time he's in a similar situation...
 
Arkady said:
Yeah, but Aurelius, like many Roman Emperors, just killed everyone who disagreed with him as well...

I didn't seek to correct anyone's behaviour, but calling him names, while at the same time, petty, childish and stupid also makes me feel better and lets him know he's p'd me off...so that maybe, just maybe - he'll think better next time he's in a similar situation...
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You should have just nuked him :D
 
takes the same shot you did, possibly even without knowing why you took it in the first place...
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Oh yes, I love those ones, which if I notice someone doing it, I will start to take a picture of the biggest load of inane crap that is to hand....... and then delete the images.... might be a waste of 5 mins of my time, but gives me a chuckle when I picture them at home, looking at all the crap from their memory card on the computer.........
 
Iserlohn Rob,ex-forces?Royal Engineers maybe.Hello from a Canon user and I admire your restraint I would have TWA**ED the git just to remind him about his lack of manners and respect.
 
BIKE FAN said:
Iserlohn Rob,ex-forces?Royal Engineers maybe.Hello from a Canon user and I admire your restraint I would have TWA**ED the git just to remind him about his lack of manners and respect.
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You must be a delight to be around :)

Maybe the other guy had been waiting to take the shot while as you put it
laboriously going through shutter-speeds and apertures and which wheel does which and which focus-point is needed and how to change the focus point etc etc etc...
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and decided to quickly take his shot. At the end of the day it makes no difference if you had to delay your shot for a few seconds.

You should come to one of our meets, I spend most of my time with Alby, AndyFozzy and Crusher jumping infront of me stealing my shots :)

Take a deep breath and calm down.
 
Chaz Photos said:
How you know he was English ?
Also I was told if you need to use language like this you have a lack of understanding of English and can not us it to explain yourself.
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to be honest i don't have any problem with making myself understood as i have full command of a wide & varied vocabulary!
However bearing in mind the guys sheer blunt ignorance/stupidity/lack of couresy or whatever i'd suggest the situation called for language with a tad more kick than "i say dear fellow you've wandered into my shot" :thinking:

i do sometimes have people trying to get in front of me for a shot as apparently its a bit difficult to shoot round me :lol:

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Dave Stone said:
You must be a delight to be around :)

Maybe the other guy had been waiting to take the shot while as you put it


and decided to quickly take his shot. At the end of the day it makes no difference if you had to delay your shot for a few seconds.

You should come to one of our meets, I spend most of my time with Alby, AndyFozzy and Crusher jumping infront of me stealing my shots :)

Take a deep breath and calm down.
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I agree, there's a staggering amount of anger in the thread, so many people try to hide their fears behind aggression.
 
No wonder society is in such a state if so many people can get angry over such an insignificant incident. Bring back the smoking of Hamlet cigars and just chill out! There are many more things going on in this world that are really worth getting angry about.
 
It reminds me of this ... Even in my short time it has happened to me twice.

Next time I get violent !!!
 
Man, let it go. Life is way too short to worry about that crap.
 
Dave Stone said:
You must be a delight to be around :)

Maybe the other guy had been waiting to take the shot while as you put it


and decided to quickly take his shot. At the end of the day it makes no difference if you had to delay your shot for a few seconds.

You should come to one of our meets, I spend most of my time with Alby, AndyFozzy and Crusher jumping infront of me stealing my shots :)

Take a deep breath and calm down.
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I expect a certain amount of politeness...all that was required was an 'excuse me please' from him...

A world of difference between what happens on an organised meet between people who know one another and what happens between total strangers.

If my instinctive reaction to a gross lack of manners and rudeness is anger and dismay, who the hell are you to tell me to calm down?


Yes, let it go, back down, let ignorance and stupidity become the norm... why bother being polite to anyone or have any consideration for other people's feelings or points of view...screw them all...
 
Rob, I don’t think anybody is disagreeing that it was rude, but there is little point in spending so much getting so wound up about it. It happened; he was rude, end of.
Lead by example, be polite, have consideration for others and feel content that you are doing the right thing.
 
there are some serious hand Bags been thrown around here !!!!!!
I love it on forums when all the "Ninjas" start saying "I would have chinned the b****r"

Its like a "Bone Head" convention .....

In real life only a real idiot would turn to violence over such a issue. And i have witnessed many of them wishing they had kept their mouths shut.
 
don't get mad get even :D:D

Back in my newspaper days I remember a couple of occasions when oppo photographers did this to me. One guy found himself pushed into a hedge just as the action happened with me using him as a a support, oh how he squealed :D:D:D .

Another stepped backwards seconds after I had put my silver case down on the floor just behind him :D:D

Yep I got a rep as being a bit of a **** but people who knew medid not stand in front of me :D:D:D:D

stew
 
What's the real problem here? I always stand in front of Nikon users :lol: In fact some call me Lenscap for short ;) Stoney, you will always be behind my shots ;)
 
the point is, getting ****ed off and threatening with violence doesn't change the fact that he was rude. People like that are rude, end of. Two wrongs don't make a right and in the process all you do/did is prove you are a typical 'man'; attitudes like this is what makes me ashamed to be a male person sometimes, because of all the crap that comes associated with men!
 
Dave Stone said:
You should come to one of our meets, I spend most of my time with Alby, AndyFozzy and Crusher jumping infront of me stealing my shots :)
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:razz::razz::razz::razz::razz:


I was once told "Never argue with an idiot, people might not be able to tell the difference"

As for you young Stone, I refrain from commenting. I refuse to get into a battle of wits with an unarmed man:D
 
Sorry Rob, yes he was rude by not saying 'excuse me' or acknowledging you but to retaliate with the language you hint at in a public place is not really on.

I'm sure anyone nearby would be thinking far worse of you than the other guy I certainly would if I was there with my 9 year old son.
 
Tripod + Car Battery + Electric Wire = Simples

Won't do it again..... :lol:

I had someone do this to me, just waited till he got his things back together to walk away, i made a noise while getting him in to focus, then as he looked round "click" then i just laughed :lol:

I'll dig out the photo but not sure i still have it.

Ark should have just said loudly "Bit of patients wouldn't go a miss"
 
PaulF said:
Sorry Rob, yes he was rude by not saying 'excuse me' or acknowledging you but to retaliate with the language you hint at in a public place is not really on.
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LOL how i laughed

Unless it was a church i don't really see any problem with it? :thinking: he had a right to react to be fair.

Tony
 
I have more of an issue with some of the comments here than his rudeness to be honest... he was just a prat because he was either too stupid/inattentive or just plain ignorant to notice us, or just didn't care.
Some of the responses here are worse, because even with time to consider, some of you still think his behaviour is acceptable to some degree or that it doesn't merit further comment and that I was being over the top in reacting with a choice insult.

If someone insults you, you react. How you react is up to you, but you should at least show your displeasure in some way. How I choose to show mine is indicative of the world I work in...
Unless you like getting used as a doormat, in which case carry on...
 
Rudeness and ignorance are my pet hates, manners cost nothing or so i was told many many times by my parents when growing up.

To me even if you are taking your time to get the shot right it cost nothing and it certainly does not hurt to ask politely if its ok to jump in and get the shot whilst you are busy.

I would not go as far as some people have suggested on here and use violence but he certainly would have had a strong word or maybe just two from me about ignorance and rudeness.

There is alot to be said for respect of another, and this world is seriously lacking in it today.

spike
 
I feel for you Rob, but to bring the make of the camera in to the story just fuels that old NvC ****. I have had similar experiences with people including fellow Canon users, Nikon users, and any other make under the sun users.
 
Rudeness and ignorance are my pet hates, manners cost nothing or so i was told many many times by my parents when growing up.

To me even if you are taking your time to get the shot right it cost nothing and it certainly does not hurt to ask politely if its ok to jump in and get the shot whilst you are busy.

I would not go as far as some people have suggested on here and use violence but he certainly would have had a strong word or maybe just two from me about ignorance and rudeness.

There is alot to be said for respect of another, and this world is seriously lacking in it today.
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exactly :clap:

a bit of colourful language & its job done!

too many people seem ready to just bend over & take anything that anyone does them :shake:

you need to stand up for yourself in todays world or people will just tread all over you!
 
NigelPaul said:
I feel for you Rob, but to bring the make of the camera in to the story just fuels that old NvC ****. I have had similar experiences with people including fellow Canon users, Nikon users, and any other make under the sun users.
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I know, but it's just too easy sometimes...plus it amuses me...:D
 
i heard earlier that most canon users were also BMW drivers :thinking:
 
Arkady said:
I have more of an issue with some of the comments here than his rudeness to be honest... he was just a prat because he was either too stupid/inattentive or just plain ignorant to notice us, or just didn't care.
Some of the responses here are worse, because even with time to consider, some of you still think his behaviour is acceptable to some degree or that it doesn't merit further comment and that I was being over the top in reacting with a choice insult.

If someone insults you, you react. How you react is up to you, but you should at least show your displeasure in some way. How I choose to show mine is indicative of the world I work in...
Unless you like getting used as a doormat, in which case carry on...
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Rob
I hate supermarkets with ignorant people who block the way with their trolleys, I hate it when I'm talking to someone and they decide to answer their bloody phone, I hate it when someone blocks a door I'm trying to go through ... etc, etc. :D Some people are just plain ignorant and have no consideration of others! It happens all the time :shrug: ... But can you be absolutely sure that you weren't actually interfering with his shot? and he dealt with it in his own way? ... i.e. p***ed you off ;)
 
Volvo Estate for me ;-)
 
Unfortunately manners and courtesy is something not taught in schools or by a lot of parents. Ignorance is now so common it has almost become the norm, maybe its because am getting older and less tolerant, but I do tend to say in a voice so everyone around can hear what I think of someone like that in the OP message so as to embarrass them

Realspeed
 
[FONT=&quot]We don’t live in a perfect world and yes, there are some very ignorant people around but for God sake, you’re making a mountain out of a mole hill here. It doesn’t say much for your personal character if you get so wound up over one little incident while out with your father, and you spend the rest of the day (and night) moaning about it.[/FONT]
[FONT=&quot]It happened, and it will happen again to all of us at one time or another, so please put your toys back in the pram and move on.[/FONT]
 
I was trying to remember why I didnt come here very often... thanks guys
 
No need to fuel the fire :).





Anyway, I stand by my post. I would have urinated on him followed by a: Oh, I didn't realize you were there with your non-weatherproofed equipment. Unlucky mate.




;)
 
gerry s said:
I was trying to remember why I didnt come here very often... thanks guys
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well you just made 100% of your total forum contribution sarcastically moaning in this topic so ............... :shrug:
 
Tirpitz said:
well you just made 50% of your total forum contribution sarcastically moaning in this topic so ............... :shrug:
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Give him chance! ... He did join three years ago 17/05/2007 :D
 
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