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Not that the camera should have made any difference, but:

I was out in Exeter today tutoring my Dad on his new (my old) D1x and laboriously going through shutter-speeds and apertures and which wheel does which and which focus-point is needed and how to change the focus point etc etc etc...
So we're stood in front of an old double-gate next to the Cathedral and he's faffing around trying to remember what does what and this Canon-guy steps right in front of us as we're finally all set up, kneels down and takes the same shot we'd just arranged...and takes his own sweet time about it, all without so much as an "excuse me", or "I'll just jump in here for a sec, do you mind?" The bloody rudeness of it was breathtaking: he didn't even acknowledge either of us as he ambled back off to his missus either...

We both stood there dumbfounded...
Dad says to me "are there many like that?", to which I responded very loudly so the guy and his wife could hear me while making eye-contact with him: "No, only Canon-owners, they're all twits! (insert actual epithet accordingly)"...still no response from the guy...ignorant so and so........

Seriously, if I hadn't had my poor old Dad with me (and he is getting on a bit - i was getting seriously frustrated with the teaching by this point...lol), that bloke would be bleeding still...I was bloody raging...:suspect:
 
Yep and it's all because he had a Canon.

Nothing to do with the fact he was simply an ignorant old duffer. Actually there's a fair few of them who jump in front of me in the queue and knock my legs with their shopping trolley at Tesco. Ahh it must be because they are Tesco shoppers.

I hope there weren't any children present when you said the C word. If my missus had heard you say that out loud in public - your ears would still be bleeding from the dressing down she would have given you for using that kind of language in public.

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That's us Exonians for you, Rob!
 
I made it abundantly clear in the first line of the post that it doesn't really matter what kit he was using - the rest is just me ranting on...lol

As to swearing in public - most kids both know and publicly use far more invective than I do these days...
 
I cannot stand people like that. The number of shots I have with people just entering the frame is unbelievable.
 
Did you get your Nikons in a twist, Rob? ;) :razz:

I'd have probably said something as well to be honest but I'd have probably refrained from calling someone a 'Berkeley Hunt'! :D

Si
 
I find it so annoying when people aren't "space aware", then stop right in front of you- move into your way, or do something else stupid. Grrr, happens when walking, driving, or out with camera.
 
It is downright rude. :thumbsdown: A similar thing happened to me last year.

I was on Sandgate beach, got my camera on a tripod, all ready to shoot when a Japenease man with camera in hand and his wife and four kids just sat in front of me about ten feet away. He proceeded to snap away.

I had my dog with me on a lunge line so I just let the dog amble over. Soon bloody moved when a Staffordshire Bull Terrier tried to eat his kid's crisps.:)

Didn't your dad tell you off for swearing?:)

Lisa
 
Regardless of his make of camera, I'd have kicked his C-unit in:D;). Ignorant git:razz:
 
Similar, but bread related :)

I was in Sainsbury's and just looking at the bread selection when a woman slid in between me and the shelves. Bad enough, but then proceeded to drag her shopping trolley in as well. I was left beyond arms reach and ready to kill!

So I just moved round and stood right in front of her. Childish, immature but bloody satisfying!

Don't get mad...

Graham
 
Perhaps you should have taken a leak on his head while he was framing the shot.

"Oh, I didn't you see there, kneeling right in front of the photograph I was about to take."
 
It was pretty obvious that he took the shot because he'd seen us setting it up beforehand...I see that a lot...someone with a camera watches you, then when you go, walks over and takes the same shot you did, possibly even without knowing why you took it in the first place...

Except he didn't wait for us to finish.
And there was no-one else near us either, the place was pretty deserted, so he couldn't use the excuse that he hadn't noticed us in amongst all the hordes of tourists etc...lol

Dad said I should have just booted him in the ass as he knelt down right in front of us...
 
I dunno. There I was down in Exeter wanting to get a shot of the cathedral and this old duffer and his son were spouting on and on about how great their Nikon was and what every siongle button did while I stood patiently to one side. Eventually, my patience ran out so I stepped up, took a photograph and walked away.

Obviously I surprised the duffer cos his son waited till I left before shouting some obsenity an me and my misses - to which I could not be bothered to reply.

There are two sides to every story - especially when it comes to good manners.....
 
grahamsewelluk said:
I dunno. There I was down in Exeter wanting to get a shot of the cathedral and this old duffer and his son were spouting on and on about how great their Nikon was and what every siongle button did while I stood patiently to one side. Eventually, my patience ran out so I stepped up, took a photograph and walked away.

Obviously I surprised the duffer cos his son waited till I left before shouting some obsenity an me and my misses - to which I could not be bothered to reply.

There are two sides to every story - especially when it comes to good manners.....
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Really? That was you?...and the expression 'excuse me...' is one you've never come across before perhaps?
 
Yv said:
...I suspect he is just pointing out that it might have been seen totally differently by another person...
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If he has a point to make then a PM might be in order, or maybe a smiley or three to reassure everyone that he is in fact trying to make a point.

As it is, his post smacks more of point-scoring than point-making.
 
blue max said:
Similar, but bread related :)

I was in Sainsbury's and just looking at the bread selection when a woman slid in between me and the shelves. Bad enough, but then proceeded to drag her shopping trolley in as well. I was left beyond arms reach and ready to kill!

So I just moved round and stood right in front of her. Childish, immature but bloody satisfying!

Don't get mad...

Graham
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It's reasons like this I get my shopping delivered. Lazy.? Yes.! But who cares.... £4 to be stress free and have it delivered to your door.

Well done Arkady for keeping your calm and not kicking the ***** out of him.!! LOL Sounds angry but sometimes people just have to learn the hard way.!!
 
ok - truth time time. It wasn't me, I was at Addenbrooks Hospital in Cambridge where my mother had been admitted a few days before with a suspect heart attack. And yes I have witnesses to this alibi.

However, life is too short to carry that amount of hatred for somebody who may have inconvenienced you and seemed rude. It would have been just as simple to have wished the other guy "good luck - I hope your shot comes out" and taken the higher moral ground.

My other main hobby is driving, and if someone cuts you up do you go into road rage or merely give a wave and be thankful that neither of you caused an accident. The reason for saying this is that there are too many occasions that we read about in the newspapers which read something like "he was only taking a photograph outside a church and reprimanded somebody for being rude. The other guy pulled a knife and now I have lost a son. All because of a few silly words!"
 
Graham - sorry for biting back at you... You think there was another side to this - fine...but you weren't there - the guy was blatantly rude way before I commented.

It was patently obvious that I was teaching a complete novice by going through the various controls and functions and how they related to the image we were trying to capture. A polite tap on the shoulder was all that was required - we could have had a nice chat about the architecture.

As it stands I have a sour taste in my mouth about the whole afternoon...
 
a little bit of harsh language usually gets the point across :thumbs:

if he was any kind of geezer he woulda reacted to it. he wasn't - he didn't!

he probably went away with it ringing in his ears & might be a bit more courteous next time :shrug:

Staff edit: For language and more...Come on guys lets keep this more forum friendly!
 
Life's to short Arkady. Just get over it. People are rude. End of. They don't learn.

He didn't spend the rest of the afternoon p*****d off about the incident.

You DID. So it spoilt your day more than his.
 
I didn't so much, but my Dad did - he's still moaning about it...lol
Graham's jokey-post wound me up far more, in fact :lol:
 
I'm afraid people who are completely ignorant like this chap really annoy me. However I've found that the best way is to keep a calm manner and then do my level best to totally humiliate them by spending the next 10 minutes lecturing them on good manners, why their behaviour is totally unaceptable in what we laughingly consider to be a civilised society, and how fortunate they were to have encountered someone as enlightened as myself, who chose to spend a little time in schooling them in the manners that their parent (well - i'm assuming the father wasn't around as he seemed to be a complete b!) failed to, rather than treating them to a damned good kicking.

I usually manage to get a good audience, all tutting and muttering "shame" etc. and leave the area feeling like I may have done some good - if not to the c-unit on the end of the rant, then at least to the audience, who have seen that there are still a few people with a concept of good manners, and who are prepared to stand up for it.

Of course, occasionally, the person getting ranted at decides that their command of the invective is insufficient, and they take a swing at me. So I belt them!

:)
 
Kind of reminds me of a similar situation a couple of years ago, i was in Bangkok sky train station, just about to take a photo when this guy barged in front of me, to get the shot, i put him in his place in no uncertain terms, whats ironic it was only of a bloody dog wearing sunglasses, which in itself may seem funny but again it's the rudeness of it, funnily enough he was a Canon user (runs for cover :lol:) but in all seriousness although it may be common and a fact of life there's no bloody need for it, and quite honestly i can see why Rob got annoyed, oh and if anyone comes along and says i was that guy, i will eat my D700 :lol:
 
grahamsewelluk said:
ok - truth time time. It wasn't me, I was at Addenbrooks Hospital in Cambridge where my mother had been admitted a few days before with a suspect heart attack. And yes I have witnesses to this alibi.

However, life is too short to carry that amount of hatred for somebody who may have inconvenienced you and seemed rude. It would have been just as simple to have wished the other guy "good luck - I hope your shot comes out" and taken the higher moral ground.

My other main hobby is driving, and if someone cuts you up do you go into road rage or merely give a wave and be thankful that neither of you caused an accident. The reason for saying this is that there are too many occasions that we read about in the newspapers which read something like "he was only taking a photograph outside a church and reprimanded somebody for being rude. The other guy pulled a knife and now I have lost a son. All because of a few silly words!"
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i like grahams attitude.. Its how I try to live my life.. I say 'try' in the same way I 'try' not to eat burgers!
 
grahamsewelluk said:
However, life is too short to carry that amount of hatred for somebody who may have inconvenienced you and seemed rude. It would have been just as simple to have wished the other guy "good luck - I hope your shot comes out" and taken the higher moral ground.

My other main hobby is driving, and if someone cuts you up do you go into road rage or merely give a wave and be thankful that neither of you caused an accident. The reason for saying this is that there are too many occasions that we read about in the newspapers which read something like "he was only taking a photograph outside a church and reprimanded somebody for being rude. The other guy pulled a knife and now I have lost a son. All because of a few silly words!"
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I agree Graham life is too short to get angry about such things. I just accept that there are rude people around and get on with my life. I'm happy! :)
 
Exeter is a great place for some photographs, quite a colourful city.
 
TG. said:
Kind of reminds me of a similar situation a couple of years ago, i was in Bangkok sky train station, just about to take a photo when this guy barged in front of me, to get the shot, i put him in his place in no uncertain terms, whats ironic it was only of a bloody dog wearing sunglasses, which in itself may seem funny but again it's the rudeness of it, funnily enough he was a Canon user (runs for cover :lol:) but in all seriousness although it may be common and a fact of life there's no bloody need for it, and quite honestly i can see why Rob got annoyed, oh and if anyone comes along and says i was that guy, i will eat my D700 :lol:
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:suspect::suspect:
 
A wise bloke once said that the first sign of a sick society is when "please" and "thank you" go out of the door. Every time someone gets away with a thoughtless act of ignorance, the world gets a little worse. Okay, I'm a grumpy old sod, but I don't like how things are any more. I don't let peoples actions spoil my day, I actively ENJOY the fact that I've managed to berate someone for being a ignorant piece of crud. It's that old saying again - "if you're not part of the solution, you're part of the problem!"
 
Nod said:
That's us Exonians for you, Rob!
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A speak for yourself He cant have been it the tourist that are in the green taking photos not the locals... Oh hang on I was there yesterday, but with a friend oh and a wedding with some tog who was not dressed for a cathedral wedding..
 
Tirpitz said:
a little bit of harsh language usually gets the point across :thumbs:

if he was any kind of geezer he woulda reacted to it. he wasn't - he didn't!
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How you know he was English ?
Also I was told if you need to use language like this you have a lack of understanding of English and can not us it to explain yourself.
 
The Magik said:
I cannot stand people like that. The number of shots I have with people just entering the frame is unbelievable.
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strange, I must have the same shots as you. Always with people walking right into shot.

A few years back me and and uncle headed to the autosport show at the NEC, when I was VERY new to photography. There I was taking a photo and this bloke marched straight in front of me. mutter, mutter.

the next 3 shots at 3 different displays the same bloke did the same thing. Needless to say come the 4th display we were ready and my uncle just happened to body check this bloke as he was about to march in. closely followed by deciding to point at something on the wall at the next one, just long enough to halt his progress. He took the hint after that. :lol:
 
Chaz Photos said:
How you know he was English ?
Also I was told if you need to use language like this you have a lack of understanding of English and can not us it to explain yourself.
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Entschuligung, Bitte, s'il vous plait, excuse-moi, excuseer me, als tu bleeft, お願いします, если вы пожалуйста
etc etc etc...

You'd get the idea even if you don't speak the language, plus as one photographer to another, a gesture would suffice - hold up the camera and point at what you want to photograph...blah-di-blah-blah...
 
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