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So knowing what you know now, if you started again today and could afford your current system or something else to a similar value what would you go for?

I'm interested to know the system in general but also the details - body, lenses, flashes and other bits you may have bought and loved or never even used. Even the computer if you want - Mac OSX or Windows? Laptop or desktop? If you have a studio what lighting would you buy?

Imagine you could afford the system you have now, or you could spend to that amount on any other kit.

I'm interested if people wish they'd done something else, I realise people invest so much in their kit that it's really hard to switch, so if you would if you could which way would you go and why? As I don't own much right now I have several options, I want to hear what others would do.

Lastly, what sort of photography do you do the most?
 
I'm very lucky to have pretty much everything I want (and far more than I need!!!) Having built it up over a period of years, I reckon I'd stick with what I've got, possibly adding an X-T2 to the Fuji kit.

In a nutshell, the Nikon kit comprises of a couple of FF bodies and a Dx one with zooms ranging from 12mm up to 300, some Nikkors, some Sigmas, as well as a few primes for slightly specialised use. I also have an old 1 series body and the F-T1 converter so I can use the F mount Nikkors on it. The Fuji system is again zoom based ranging from 10mm up to 800 once the 2x converter's bolted on to the 100-400. These get mounted on an X-Pro1 and X-T1 with an X-T2 planned (but don't tell Mrs Nod!) Assorted supports based on the Manfrotto RC2 QR system but not restricted to their tripods etc.. A couple of Aluminium ones and a couple of CF ones with a small selection of different types of heads. Several compacts and a couple of bridges complete the digital side of things. A Nikon F80, a small OM-10 based system and a couple of old Russian range finders are currently "between jobs" in the cupboard.
 
Can I ask @Nod why you like to use the two systems - Fuji and Nikon - and how they complement each other or what they do that the other doesn't? Do you just feel like using a certain camera on a certain day or does each have it so own job/speciality?

I currently have a starter Canon camera, I'm in no rush (actually I am but you know what I mean!) but my options are to stick with Canon and the options their range offer, I could go Nikon - it's not as if I've invested a lot in a Canon system - or I could look at something else. I've looked at Sony but it doesn't really appeal, the Fuji X-T2 is very appealing for a lot of reasons, or I could go in a very different direction with something like a Pentax K1.

I genuinely wondered which way everyone else would go. I see a lot of people switching to Fuji, I wondered how many more would if they could.
 
Very satisfied with my Fuji kit, swapped from Canon FF a couple of years ago and can't imagine I will change again. Also got a couple of Gitzo tripods with decent ball heads, shorter lighter one for carrying around all day and bigger one for more specific stuff.
Desktop i5 win 7 with LR6 that copes well with 16mp files and tablet expanded with 128gb micro sd for storage on the move, serves as a remote too.

So pretty much sorted and not wanting anything else, money now gets spent on going places to take photos.
 
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Why did you switch @tijuana taxi and what model did you switch to? And whats your type of photography?
 
If I'd known 10 years ago that Canon crop bodies would end up so far behind for so many years I'd have moved to Nikon when I had little invested. That said, today, the 80d has closed the gap and the Canon FF cameras are brilliant.

I use a mix of flashguns, portable flash, studio flash and triggers. If I started today, I'd go straight for Godox, it's the best integrated system.

The Fuji cameras are awesome, but the lenses are very expensive, it's a great 2nd system, but not great for a primary system IMHO.
 
Probably not swapped and changed between systems so much. More than happy with Nikon DX stuff at the moment.
 
Why did you switch @tijuana taxi and what model did you switch to? And whats your type of photography?

I switched to save lugging so much heavy gear around, tried a refurbished X-E1 with 18-55mm lens and was very impressed. Found myself taking a camera out nearly all the time and realised I was enjoying photography again.
Now got a X-T1 and X-E2, my daughter had the X-E1 and liked it so much she bought a XT-10

Happy to take photos of pretty much anything, I suppose landscapes, buildings and transport make up the bulk of it, not keen on sport or street photography though.

What about you Marc, what kit do you have and your favoured subjects?
 
My journey took me from a Sony a200 to Canon crop to Canon full frame to Fuji X, with some Panasonic, Olympus and Sony Next/a7 along the way. Wouldn't change a thing, it's been loads of fun :)

Really loved the Canon full frame gear when I didn't also have kids to lug around, but have found the Fuji kit great fun in its place.
 
If I'd known 10 years ago that Canon crop bodies would end up so far behind for so many years I'd have moved to Nikon when I had little invested. That said, today, the 80d has closed the gap and the Canon FF cameras are brilliant.

I use a mix of flashguns, portable flash, studio flash and triggers. If I started today, I'd go straight for Godox, it's the best integrated system.

The Fuji cameras are awesome, but the lenses are very expensive, it's a great 2nd system, but not great for a primary system IMHO.

The Godox stuff does look good value for money, you recommended I look at that a while back and I will go that route in the future.

Do you think the Fuji kit isn't good as a primary system due to the cost of lenses or for other reasons? They are very pricey.



I'd spend a tiny fraction of what I have over the years.

Is that because you have bought kit you haven't used Simon?


I switched to save lugging so much heavy gear around, tried a refurbished X-E1 with 18-55mm lens and was very impressed. Found myself taking a camera out nearly all the time and realised I was enjoying photography again.
Now got a X-T1 and X-E2, my daughter had the X-E1 and liked it so much she bought a XT-10

Happy to take photos of pretty much anything, I suppose landscapes, buildings and transport make up the bulk of it, not keen on sport or street photography though.

What about you Marc, what kit do you have and your favoured subjects?

I've been struggling with what I like to photograph Rich. I like 'people' pictures, I always have, I want to get into portraiture and I have some strong ideas of styles I like - I really like fine art style portrait photography. If I'd be good enough is a different question, I'm currently learning as much as I can, it's all new to me as a serous hobby, for so long I've just enjoyed snapping pics with a phone or instant camera, I now have a basic Canon (1300D) with the kit lens and I also have a 18-135mm lens which I keep on all the time.

I just don't don't really find much enjoyment in taking pictures of 'stuff', part of the issue is because I'm not so well and I can't walk for miles, so there's not much chance of a hike. There are plenty of stunning places in Devon, but I'm too indecisive, and I just know that anyone could come along and take the same picture and do a better job. With people it's a unique picture, even if it's not very good! It probably sounds stupid, I live on a farm so I wander round taking pictures of the buildings (our cottage is over 400 years old and some of the barns are not much younger), I take pics of the tractors - old and new- but I end up with the animals taking their pics (cows, sheep, pigs from next week, chickens, horses, dogs, cats...) or taking pic s of the people working and they tell me to get lost!

I didn't think I'd like street photography as it seemed very invasive, but as I don't have anyone who will let me take their picture anymore I've had to give it a go. I was really nervous but I wandered the streets, at first I was trying to do it with the camera at waist level, but as the screen doesn't hinge at all I was guessing and of course got nothing but lampposts, shop signs and pavements. So I just started pointing the camera at people who were not paying any attention. Some people noticed others didn't, I got a few of a guy working in his pottery shop, I gave a busker 50p so I could take some pics of him. They didn't come out great - I'm still working on exposure and moving from sun to shade to sun was keeping me guessing, I got home and worked on them in Lightroom (just on my iPad, I don't have a computer at the moment) but if I'm honest I didn't know where to start. I know I over processed them, I'm going to try to learn Lightroom now as I realise how important the post processing is, although of course if I get my in camera images right I won't have to work so hard after! It was actually fun, I got braver as time went on, I didn't get any great pics, just people doing not a lot. At least its people photography, it made me think as I didn't have long to get the settings right, and all the pics came out looking ok, just not great.

So that's me. I don't know what you've read from my previous posts (if any) but I'm doing this so I can get to a level where I'm good enough to offer portraits for families with children with disabilities and life limiting conditions. All for free, my work needs to be good enough so that I can get some paying clients and I can use the profits to give the other families free portraits for their walls. I have 3 kids with disabilities and special needs Andy I know how hard it is to get pictures. The two thing she I have going for me are time (I'm a full time carer for my kids) and he enthusiasm to make it work.

I bet you wished you hadn't asked eh! :D
 
My journey took me from a Sony a200 to Canon crop to Canon full frame to Fuji X, with some Panasonic, Olympus and Sony Next/a7 along the way. Wouldn't change a thing, it's been loads of fun :)

Really loved the Canon full frame gear when I didn't also have kids to lug around, but have found the Fuji kit great fun in its place.

So are you just using Fuji kit now? Or do you still have and sometimes use any of the other stuff?



When I went digital what I wanted was replacements for my 35mm SLR and compacts but at the time they didn't exist but now in mirrorless they do :D So, if starting again now I'd go mirrorless :D

This is fun and worth a read...

http://theonlinephotographer.typepad.com/the_online_photographer/2010/05/letter-to-george.html

The mirrorless way does appeal, I'm just checking I'm not simply following the trend because it sounds good, but if people who know have sold on some top equipment to move to this stuff it has to be good. Or am I trying to convince myself?!

Thanks for the link - I've opened it in a new tab to read later - I like reading, never read so much as I have in the past few months :)
 
The Godox stuff does look good value for money, you recommended I look at that a while back and I will go that route in the future.

Do you think the Fuji kit isn't good as a primary system due to the cost of lenses or for other reasons? They are very pricey.
The Fuji kit is great, but the focus system on CSCs isn't as good as DSLRs for moving subjects. And battery life is appalling too.
 
The Fuji kit is great, but the focus system on CSCs isn't as good as DSLRs for moving subjects. And battery life is appalling too.
The Fuji XT-2 and Sony A6300 bodies are supposed to be very good in terms of tracking moving subjects to the point where most reviews say they are the first real contenders to the DSLR world for AF tracking... BUT these are only APS-C bodies.
I think and hope Sony are the first to bring high-level AF tracking to the mirrorless world when the announce the Sony A9. :D
 

I'd spend a tiny fraction of what I have over the years.
Is that because you have bought kit you haven't used Simon?

No - used it all.

It's because I now know that my type of photography has almost nothing to do with kit.
 
The Fuji kit is great, but the focus system on CSCs isn't as good as DSLRs for moving subjects. And battery life is appalling too.


Moving as in anything moving? Or fast - sports, wildlife etc? What do you reckon for 'people pictures' mostly portraiture, some street and event photography?

As for the batteries, do you think that's because of the small form they have to work with? I would have thought they used the same technology as other camera types.
 

I'd spend a tiny fraction of what I have over the years.
Is that because you have bought kit you haven't used Simon?

No - used it all.

It's because I now know that my type of photography has almost nothing to do with kit.

I'm guessing it's all about the person behind the viewfinder?
 
So are you just using Fuji kit now? Or do you still have and sometimes use any of the other stuff?





The mirrorless way does appeal, I'm just checking I'm not simply following the trend because it sounds good, but if people who know have sold on some top equipment to move to this stuff it has to be good. Or am I trying to convince myself?!

Thanks for the link - I've opened it in a new tab to read later - I like reading, never read so much as I have in the past few months :)

Yep, just use Fuji kit now. I sold my Canon 6D and L stuff a couple of months back.

Don't get these comments about battery life unless you spray and pray - 500 odd pictures is fine by me, I don't shoot sports so pick my shots carefully. One battery usually lasts me three trips out :)
 
I have Sony crop (my beginner system) and Nikon FX. If I could start again & have the same equivalent in cash then I'd go Sony FF with an A7r MkI, plus a fastish sony walkabout zoom & a Sigma ART 50 1.4.

The Sony crop system is light enough as a travel camera & Minolta/Sony lenses of generally high quality & older kit is well priced. I still like & use the Sony. The Nikon D610 is OK but rather crude & a heavy lump to lug around, and Nikon lenses tend to be either low quality or expensive. I'd like the light weight of the A7, EVF and general better handling, plus great optics..
 
The Fuji XT-2 and Sony A6300 bodies are supposed to be very good in terms of tracking moving subjects to the point where most reviews say they are the first real contenders to the DSLR world for AF tracking... BUT these are only APS-C bodies.
I think and hope Sony are the first to bring high-level AF tracking to the mirrorless world when the announce the Sony A9. :D
This is the problem with discussing CSCs vs DSLRs, people bandy about stats from the best systems for each 'issue' being discussed.

Most CSC don't come close to a good DSLR when it comes to focus performance, we can discuss it till the cows come home, but it'll not alter that fact. When a £1200 CSC is the only one better than a £300 DSLR then the argument is ridiculous.
 
I've no idea to be honest.

I only know what's right for me.

It cost too much to get there.


It's definitely easy to spend money on this stuff, I'm being very restrained and buying nothing unless it's an absolute bargain or something I need, and if I'm honest ticking both boxes will be a rarity. I have bought a book, a camera bag, a used Manfroto head on eBay for a tripod I was gifted, and I picked up some studio lights, modifiers and loads of other kit for £100 - that ticked the bargain box, though I don't really need it until I've really learnt to control the camera. I also got a hand strap that goes over my knuckles and gives me more confidence I won't drop the thing, I have limited grip strength in my hands and now and then they just 'let go' so that was a wise purchase but was less than a tenner anyway!

My worry is I'll buy stuff and then realise I really didn't need it. Getting married in May so I'd be in trouble if I spent real money between now and then, so this is research time.
 
Yep, just use Fuji kit now. I sold my Canon 6D and L stuff a couple of months back.

Don't get these comments about battery life unless you spray and pray - 500 odd pictures is fine by me, I don't shoot sports so pick my shots carefully. One battery usually lasts me three trips out :)
With casual use the battery in my Fuji doesn't last 2 days, similar use with a DSLR would be a week.

Heavy use (pro wedding use or my sports use) isn't spray and pray but I'll use a battery in a day, I'd use several CSC batteries.

Just because you don't need it, doesn't mean no one would.
 
I bet you wished you hadn't asked eh!

Not at all Marc, it's nice to have a bit of background and hearing where others live and take their photos. The other day there was someone saying they only took pictures of boats and sunsets as they lived on a peninsula. That sounded great to me as does your surroundings, I live in very flat Cambridgeshire with so called big skies, bore me rigid and a farm sounds very nice indeed.
We used to regularly holiday in Devon staying in a cottage near Wembury, fantastic scenery, not used to walking up and down so many hills though.

Good luck with your ambitions, nice to have something to aim for and ultimately a charitable offer to others. Main thing is that you enjoy it, doesn't matter what gear you have if it gives you pleasure and a welcome break from life's harsh realities
 
With casual use the battery in my Fuji doesn't last 2 days, similar use with a DSLR would be a week.

Heavy use (pro wedding use or my sports use) isn't spray and pray but I'll use a battery in a day, I'd use several CSC batteries.

Just because you don't need it, doesn't mean no one would.

True, fair point, though I would guess someone in that position would be using a battery grip anyway?

For casual use I don't see it as a problem.
 
I'd have spent less time worrying about my gear and more time learning how to see.


That's very poetic Dean, and really true. I thought I was weird for thinking I was looking at everything differently, I feel like I'm looking at objects in a different way, and seeing how things look in different light. I'm not even really interested in architectural photography but I find the light and shadows interesting, I guess it can't hurt hinting about it.

It would be so easy to just order the best of everything, but as I've read so many times on here it's not the equipment, it's how you use it. I like that a good photographer can take great pics with the cheapest of cameras, but give the best equipment to someone without a clue and they would struggle to get a picture.

I'm in no rush to upgrade, if I didn't have a 'proper' camera I would be but although it's bottom of the range it allows me to take control of the exposure and tweak whatever I want. I guess it just takes time for it to come as second nature and know what exposure settings to use wen you look at the picture you want to make, I'm just really not there yet and some days it's frustrating.
 
With casual use the battery in my Fuji doesn't last 2 days, similar use with a DSLR would be a week.

Heavy use (pro wedding use or my sports use) isn't spray and pray but I'll use a battery in a day, I'd use several CSC batteries.

Just because you don't need it, doesn't mean no one would.

There are ways and means - well on the XT1 anyway - battery life is easy a few days if... you switch to EVF + eye sensor, that way it only does the heavy drain bits when the EVF is at your eye.
 
Not at all Marc, it's nice to have a bit of background and hearing where others live and take their photos. The other day there was someone saying they only took pictures of boats and sunsets as they lived on a peninsula. That sounded great to me as does your surroundings, I live in very flat Cambridgeshire with so called big skies, bore me rigid and a farm sounds very nice indeed.
We used to regularly holiday in Devon staying in a cottage near Wembury, fantastic scenery, not used to walking up and down so many hills though.

Good luck with your ambitions, nice to have something to aim for and ultimately a charitable offer to others. Main thing is that you enjoy it, doesn't matter what gear you have if it gives you pleasure and a welcome break from life's harsh realities


I don't do hills, I drive everywhere! It is lovely here, we only moved down last summer from the middle of the busy West Midlands and al the noise, hustle and bustle, we needed to escape, it's done us good and the kids are really benefitting from it. It's certainly different, I just have to remember to enjoy life when I'm head down and stressed about hospital appointments, schools, meetings, mental health services and all and the cuts that make life challenging. It took time to realise that things down here move to 'Devon Time' and people don't rush, even if you try to make them!

Thanks for your kind words :)
 
I've constantly downgraded my gear as I've learnt how to use it better. The best investment I ever made was a book called Teaching Photography by Philip Perkis .
 
There are ways and means - well on the XT1 anyway - battery life is easy a few days if... you switch to EVF + eye sensor, that way it only does the heavy drain bits when the EVF is at your eye.


Do you mean it actually switches on when it detects an eye? If so is there much lag?
 
I've constantly downgraded my gear as I've learnt how to use it better. The best investment I ever made was a book called Teaching Photography by Philip Perkis .


Noted thanks - I shall look it up. What did you find it good for in particular?
 
No, the sensor picks up the shadow of your face before the eye is as it - or at least thats how it seem s to me.
 
Noted thanks - I shall look it up. What did you find it good for in particular?

Teaching how to really see. A little like you said, to see the wonderful in the mundane. It also encourages you to shoot without too much analysis so you're connecting unconsciously with your environment. It's quite spiritual.
 
Teaching how to really see. A little like you said, to see the wonderful in the mundane. It also encourages you to shoot without too much analysis so you're connecting unconsciously with your environment. It's quite spiritual.

That's interesting, I think too much, and then don't take the pic. I don't know why, it's not film, I'm not wasting a shot, I can delete it. It hinders me and it's annoying. My attempt at street photography yesterday forced me to just take the picture as there wasn't time to think about it and wonder which way I should adjust this or that, I had to make a decision or miss the moment.

The link above Simon shared has pages missing, on Amazon it says it's a 66 page book - is that it? Or is there a longer version?
 
Ah, that online version is missing a fair bit. It's only a small book, but bigger than that.
 
There are ways and means - well on the XT1 anyway - battery life is easy a few days if... you switch to EVF + eye sensor, that way it only does the heavy drain bits when the EVF is at your eye.
Like I said...

This is the problem with discussing CSCs vs DSLRs, people bandy about stats from the best systems for each 'issue' being discussed.
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I'm not knocking CSC's I've said from the beginning that they're the future of photography.

But that's still true, it'll be a while before the average CSC is equal to the average DSLR.
 
I'm like @Nod in that I run both Fuji and Nikon full frame systems, as well as couple of compacts. I regard them all as tools in a toolbox and choose the best one for the job, so for days out on holiday I take a compact in my pocket, or at a pinch the Fuji with a pancake lens. But if I'm doing what I specialise in then I use a Nikon D810 or Nikon D700 due to the low noise, and the dynamic range, which gives me more to work with in post processing. I sometimes use the Fuji, if I want to travel light.

Could I do it with a lower end camera if I had to start again? Yes, I could adapt, it's just easier with what I have, plus it's easier to print large from bigger files. I started digitally in 2002, and moved to a dslr in 2005 so I've used lower end gear and I tend to prefer the high end stuff!
 
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