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Because I'm obviously the kind of idiot that looks at an ilford canister and instantly chucks it in the black and white processing pile, I've literally just gotten to the final wash and realised that I threw in a roll of XP2 in with my B&W chemistry. Expecting the worst I've hung it up, and besides the obviously purple substrate colour...it looks more or less fine.

What is the effect of processing a C41 black and white film in black and white chemistry? How should I go about scanning it, and what kind of recompense do I deserve for the stupidity shown?

Answers on a postcard, or preferably below please :)
 
Some guys have dev colour neg film in B\W chemistry h'mm maybe a coffee brew as well :eek: ...forgot what the results were like but someone will know.
 
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I've always been curious about that XP2 too. I've done Vista in Rodinal and never had acceptable results but some folk seem to manage better. Vista, in my hands, ends up a grainly low contrast mess but I don't know how XP2 will cope.
 
As long as you devved for the ISO you shot it at there will be no problem. With XP2 the only thing you lose is the exposure lattitude when doing it in B&W chems, had you devved in C41 then you can shoot between 50 and 800 ISO with no problem (and beyond as well if the scanner can handle the thin negs produced beyond 800). I regularly dunked mine in caffenol, and swear the grain was finer than with C41. For example:

Golden Spiral I by Alan Jones, on Flickr
 
redsnappa said:
You should know as you tell us you have done it.
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Haha, well I'll hopefully scan it tonight and find out! I posted pretty much right as it was hanging after the wash, so I had no idea how it might show up in a scan/print. I guess I'll post back later with the result though. As it happens it's a roll my girlfriend shot, so she can take the credit/blame for the actual shots! :)
 
Jamtea said:
What is the effect of processing a C41 black and white film in black and white chemistry?
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In my experience with Vista, a lot of grain and a lack of contrast. XP2 might be different, though, given it's B&W.
 
Well, rather anti-climactically the scans came out pretty much as normal. Here's a few of them just for reference, but there are a number of things I learned today. Ilford XP2 doesn't care how you process it AT ALL. The Canon AE-1 is a great camera by any measurement! My other half needs to learn how to expose shots properly if she insists on using an AE-1.

steam2 by Jamtea573, on Flickr


steam by Jamtea573, on (Actually shot by me this one...)

leeds 2 by Jamtea573, on Flickr

So yeah, for anyone else wondering about processing B&W C41 films in B&W chems, These were all Ilford XP2, processed in Ilfosol 3 and Rapid Fix with a water stop in between and then a simple water rinse at the end, processed for 5 mins on a rotary processor.
 
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They look as if they turned out well, do like No.1
 
I like #1 as well,lovely broad spectrum of tones and a very interesting photograph.

PS. Forgot to ask is that your Girlfriend levitating herself for a selfie.:)
 
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In the second shot, that is her, though I don't know about any levitating!

She's got a good eye for composition, but any mention of exposure metering and she gets rather hot headed with me. I'd like to see her getting back into doing more photography, so hopefully she'll get a bit of a confidence boost from seeing the feedback here :)
 
:) I see she is upright now. :)
 
you could get her a light meter, i enjoy using mine, big boxy minolta thing ;), if the camera is acurate thatll much better results than easily fooled onboard meter
 
It's more she ignores it and forgets to meter rather than it being inaccurate!
 
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