Ideas for world domination required

TheBigYin said:
@Yv, do we have any numbers on how many people turned up for last year, I was thinking 35mm purely from a point of view of not having to change film as often if theres 80 people say... 12 frames on 120 doesn't go far between that number of folk...
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With exhibitors/staff, who all join in too of course, it was about 45-50 each day. Obviously a good chunk of those are there both days, so get two chances to play, if they miss something one day, there is always the next day. We are hoping for a few more this year, the hall can accomodate 100, but to be honest, based on last year I would suggest 80 a better cut off point, just in case it chucks it down and everyone has to be indoors.

I agree that for actual playing purposes, 35mm might be a better idea, and perhaps we can even donate some TP sponsored rolls to chuck into the pot. However, demos and looks at MF and LF would be very very welcome.
 
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If you want extra shots, I have a Canon Dial - half frame, motorised wind. Rather striking looking.
 
TheBigYin said:
@Yv I was thinking 35mm purely from a point of view of not having to change film as often if theres 80 people say... 12 frames on 120 doesn't go far between that number of folk...
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Half frame mercuryII camera gives 60 summat frames......Agfa vista, two frames a pièce .....3 films ish.....how cheap can it get [:D
 
StephenM said:
If you want extra shots, I have a Canon Dial - half frame, motorised wind. Rather striking looking.
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Two great minds think ......along similar lines;)
 
I've got a Pen EE I could bring although I'm not convinced half frame is going to show film in the best light.
 
Personally I think the most impressive film results 'on the day' will come from 120 upwards. If someone is happy to shoot/develop LF then they would look fantastic but even just having 5x4 or 6x9 slides will make an excellent display.
 
oh 120 and upwards really sells film on the day, that's for sure, but I just thought that a pass-around 35mm camera would help with bit of interactivity... even if the films just get souped after the event and posted as contact prints in the inevitable "post meeting debrief thread" - I'm not sure if souping and scanning 5 rolls of 35mm (working on 2 frames per person for 80 people and allowing for occasional "ooops" moments) is something that we'd necessarily be wanting to do go through potentially at the end of the second day...
 
Lol, my first camera was a Kodak 6000. I was amazing at being able cut the top off everyone regardless of how tall they were or where they stood...I'm not much better now but don't tell my wedding customers...its 'art' :0)
 
I was thinking of bringing along my Mamiya C330f with its lovely lenses. It's an impressive beast, especially with the 180mm lens attached.

I really like the idea of a LF portrait, maybe ask peeps for a couple of quid toward the costs?
I think we definitely should have a display of cameras from sub-min to LF, I'm sure that we have a massive and comprehensive selection between us.

Andy
 
Andysnap said:
I was thinking of bringing along my Mamiya C330f with its lovely lenses. It's an impressive beast, especially with the 180mm lens attached.

I really like the idea of a LF portrait, maybe ask peeps for a couple of quid toward the costs?
I think we definitely should have a display of cameras from sub-min to LF, I'm sure that we have a massive and comprehensive selection between us.

Andy
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This would be the ideal scenario I think, a whole range of cameras [please tell me someone can squeeze in a lovely, large field camera complete with wooden tripod? I have still never forgotten sitting on Dungeness beach with a TP member years ago and being utterly fascinated watching him set it up and take a single photo :D] from the half frames all the way to the LF beasts. So many film cameras are a work of engineering art, they need to played with shown off. Add to that some to take photos with, definitely 35mm, and maybe some MF/LF IF it is cost effective, plus a bit of developing magic, whatever can be done on-site and any other magic you boys know about.
 
.... and possibly a board with different sensor sizes and negative film sizes for comparison.
 
Yv said:
anywhere else in the forum, that would be called willy waving :LOL:
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True, but in here its called 'education'.....:D
 
I've been thinking, which is always dangerous.

Specifically, I've been thinking about the idea of letting people have a play, and taking a couple of shots, with a film camera.

Given that, between us, we're hardly short of a camera or twelve and allowing for about 80 people, how about making a variety of cameras and film available?

Say, using my modest collection as an example, an F80 for that close to digital familiarity, an FG for metered manual focus, a Bronica SQ for MF goodness and an old Zeiss Ikon to mess with heads. Weston Master available as required. All loaded with a selection of B+W and colour films.

If each person is allowed 2 shots on any 2 cameras it would only be a dozen or so rolls between us, even if all 80 had a go.

It might make more of a draw than just a single camera type.

A donations box might be welcome.
 
I'm sure that plenty of us have the odd roll of film spare to donate - damn it, I can happily throw in half a dozen rolls of 35mm if you don't mind it having been frozen for the last 4 years or so (and being out of date by at least another couple of years before that)

More concerning is the cost of chemicals if people are thinking of souping Colour stuff on-site (particularly E6) - we all know B&W chemicals are cheap as chips... indeed I think it'd be fascinating for some of the digital crew if they had a demo of "some nutter developing film using Coffee, Vitamin C tablets and Washing Soda"...
 
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it would be a bit fiddly to set up a chemical plant for processing on site, would the "digi's" stick around the 40 minutes or so for their rolls of slide film for a start? dont want to put them off the idea too quickly :)
 
If we're to show these "modern tech digi"" togs how things "used to be", perhaps in addition to a possible " wet collodion" démo, which i hope to see, we could semi stand develop some of the b&w film as a method that also goes back to the infancy of photography.

Besides it being another area of film processing, it might actually prove easier on the day depending on what facilities we have as temperature and time is not so critical as with "conventional" developing......and it uses less chems.
 
AshleyC said:
it would be a bit fiddly to set up a chemical plant for processing on site, would the "digi's" stick around the 40 minutes or so for their rolls of slide film for a start? dont want to put them off the idea too quickly :)
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I think if they're interested enough to want to have a play at shooting film, then they'll be curious as to how thé image is prtoduced.
Fait enough they may be a tad "bored" in between developing stages but if there are other film related displays alongside, thé time will soon pass.
 
And there'll be lots of other stuff going on of course.

They can drop by later to see the results.
 
AshleyC said:
it would be a bit fiddly to set up a chemical plant for processing on site, would the "digi's" stick around the 40 minutes or so for their rolls of slide film for a start? dont want to put them off the idea too quickly :)
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Polaroid? Well, instant film anyway. I actually had some of the old Polaroid instant slide film until just a few years ago - that could have been an eye catcher
 
TheBigYin said:
... indeed I think it'd be fascinating for some of the digital crew if they had a demo of "some nutter developing film using Coffee, Vitamin C tablets and Washing Soda"...
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Now that I'd like to see :D

simon ess said:
Colour to be processed post meet and put up in a thread?
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There is absolutely no reason why not :thumbs:
 
RaglanSurf said:
Thanks to the very generous @trevormc we now have a stash of 5x4 film to play with, thanks Trevor (y)
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Unfortunately due to a bit of a communication mix up Trevor has changed his mind about donating the film so if anybody has some 5x4 they could bring along for demonstration purposes that would be great, I'm sure I can find some FP4 but any donations gratefully received, preferably b&w so we can shoot & process on the day.
 
I don't mind chipping in to buy some 5x4 if necessary.

Andy
 
Andysnap said:
I don't mind chipping in to buy some 5x4 if necessary.

Andy
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Possibly not a bad idea if we're going to do some demonstrations, would be a shame to go to all that effort only to end up with blank frames for the sake of some in date film.
 
RaglanSurf said:
Unfortunately due to a bit of a communication mix up Trevor has changed his mind about donating the film so if anybody has some 5x4 they could bring along for demonstration purposes that would be great, I'm sure I can find some FP4 but any donations gratefully received, preferably b&w so we can shoot & process on the day.
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Andysnap said:
I don't mind chipping in to buy some 5x4 if necessary.

Andy
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RaglanSurf said:
Possibly not a bad idea if we're going to do some demonstrations, would be a shame to go to all that effort only to end up with blank frames for the sake of some in date film.
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What make of film and how many sheets??

I Macodirect do Adox chs 100 for 29 euros which i think is about £25 for 25 sheets.

Alternatively there's fomapan which is about the same price but offers 50 sheets although some of us have ewperienced speed issues with this film.

I'm likely to be making an order for some chems etc quite soon so could easily add a box of sheet film to the basket.

Postage will cost me the same regardless so the £25 ish cost divided by how ever many of us are willing to chip in ( there's two of us atm Andy and myself) can't amount to too much ....depends if we're happy to dig in our pockets??!!

If there's a different film that you guys are considering then fair enough, I'm still happy to help out but I don't think it's worth paying out for top notch film for demonstration purposes tbh.
 
Asha said:
What make of film and how many sheets??
I Macodirect do Adox chs 100 for 29 euros which i think is about £25 for 25 sheets.
Alternatively there's fomapan which is about the same price but offers 50 sheets although some of us have ewperienced speed issues with this film.
I'm likely to be making an order for some chems etc quite soon so could easily add a box of sheet film to the basket.
Postage will cost me the same regardless so the £25 ish cost divided by how ever many of us are willing to chip in ( there's two of us atm Andy and myself) can't amount to too much ....depends if we're happy to dig in our pockets??!!
If there's a different film that you guys are considering then fair enough, I'm still happy to help out but I don't think it's worth paying out for top notch film for demonstration purposes tbh.
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We don't want anyone to be out of pocket on this as its a demo for members I'll chat to the counter of beans.
And see if we can cover costs :)
 
Asha said:
I have lots of beanzzz ...Heinz ones too but I doubt i can buy film wiv em :(:D:D
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Can you not barter out there any more? has civilisation finally caught up with you? :p
 
Sadly I cant attend as not able to travel at moment.

For a bit of fun though. Get some old/ruined rolls of 35mm film and some spirals and have a contest to see which digital user can thread a roll on in the shortest time with their eyes closed/in a changing bag.

For added mischief, don't use nice Paterson self loading reels, but some crappy old ones, and a bit of moisture on the spiral or film :)
 
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