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Upgraded to iOS 8 and Yosemite and turned on iCloud drive.

Confused though. How do I actually see the files in the drive on my iPhone and ipad. The apple site shows this screenshot. How do I get that view on my device?

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Do you not download the app, if there is one? i dont use it for my iphone/ipad so not sure
 
You need to open it through an app that is designed to save files to it. You do that from the sharing menu.
 
Ok so I have put a load of video files in a folder on the drive. What app will open them? The generic video app doesn't show them
 
have you tried the apple forum for help on this?
 
right basically you do not have a file on your phone to open up the iCloud how you actually use it is any app that is enabled to work with idrive can then access the iCloud

so for example

pages (apple app )

if you adjust something on your iPhone it will adjust the main document and then sync with all other devices aslong it is connected to the net

Storing files in iCloud is simple. Just as it should be.
To upload your files to iCloud, simply drag them into the iCloud Drive folder on your Mac running OS X Yosemite or PC running Windows 7 or later. Or start a new document using an iCloud-enabled app on your iOS device. Then you’ll be able to access those documents from all your devices.
 
Ok I read that.

Soooo back to my videos. How do I actually get access to them on the Ipad? Which app will load them?
 
I am not sure which app opens your video files. The app that can open your files need to be written to allow access to iCloud Drive have you tried VLC?
 
You'll need to use iMovie. First check that the movies are on iCloud Drive. Next select iMovie on the iPad. From the options at the top of the screen select Theater. You should then find your movies there. Select the one you want to view and will download and play
 
I'll probably start an online petition tonight to get our files back out of the hiding.

So if I go to a meeting with some photos, text documents, spreadsheets and presentations in a folder, I have no way of quickly switching and browsing through them other than opening loads of apps and hoping I hit the jackpot. Did I miss something, or apple can't / don't want to see a very large elephant in their office.
 
It looks like you may need to update to iOS8.1 Available now. Updating to see if I can get photos on iCloud Drive. No probs with doc from pages and numbers but Photo's a real pain
 
OK just updated, still no luck, might not be doing something right. Should be intuitive. Off for a pint may be better tomorrow when I can give it some more attention
 
Chappers said:
OK just updated, still no luck, might not be doing something right. Should be intuitive. Off for a pint may be better tomorrow when I can give it some more attention
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I think that pretty well summarises the iOS design :(
 
daugirdas said:
I'll probably start an online petition tonight to get our files back out of the hiding.

So if I go to a meeting with some photos, text documents, spreadsheets and presentations in a folder, I have no way of quickly switching and browsing through them other than opening loads of apps and hoping I hit the jackpot. Did I miss something, or apple can't / don't want to see a very large elephant in their office.
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Sometimes I wonder why you use Apple products at all. You really don't get it do you?

Windows and or android seems a much better fit with how you'd like things to operate.
 
dejongj said:
Sometimes I wonder why you use Apple products at all. You really don't get it do you?

Windows and or android seems a much better fit with how you'd like things to operate.
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It just happened to be the very best thing out there 10 years ago. It sort of still is in desktop market, but just. They have been rapidly moving into the opposite direction to what I would have liked to see. When I bought iPad3 the Android tablets were still just a concept. However I am now all very much Android guy, onto my 3rd android phone, but there is no equivalent for desktops. I would love a google linux with some lovely hardware and decent 3rd party software infrastructure. Hopefully apple will sell off OSX / Macs as it doesn't make as much money for them as iOS iToys.

M$ was the very "evil" to me and many likeminded people back in the day. I just can't see myself turning back to them so easily, considering they still haven't implemented the very basics of unix system and are vulnerable to old fashioned viruses. The surface 3 pro is a start, but it will take a lot more to win me back.

I don't know if you still remember Microsoft Palladium DRM project http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Next-Generation_Secure_Computing_Base . The initiative was aiming to limit the freedom of users but luckily was successfully defeated early on. However apple did just that and more with iOS, and all is quiet. I also can't quite reconcile with that fact that Apple store doesn't allow GPL software. This in theory makes them far worse than MS.
 
Plenty of great Linux distributions out there. Why not just go for it opposed to constantly trying to fit something that obviously is not for you.

I don't get all this evil corporate perceptions personally. Not this whole utopian perception around certain license models.
 
dejongj said:
Plenty of great Linux distributions out there. Why not just go for it opposed to constantly trying to fit something that obviously is not for you.
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You see OSX was and still is the best *NIX out there. I grew up with linux; I really don't need to be educated about it. It is a fine OS, sadly still begging for Adobe and other 3rd party support and some nice matching OEM hardware. I hope you are not suggesting I should give up Ligthroom, Photoshop and all my work's software.

dejongj said:
I don't get all this evil corporate perceptions personally. Not this whole utopian perception around certain license models.
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I appreciate you may be unaware of some IT history. MS has tried to prevent any other OS and even non-MS applications on PCs. MS used dirty business practice to stop manufacturers shipping with competitor software. MS has branded OSS as cancer. That is as close to corporate evil as it gets and the fines by both US and EU clearly confirm that. Or to put it the other way round, there would be far less and worse choice for consumer if they got the upper hand.

GPL and other open source licenses are the single biggest reason we have linux and android in particular; it is the underlying base of OS X, and it is the reason we are not stuck with IE6 as the only browser. Chrome(ium), Safari (KHTML) and firefox are all Open-source or closely derived. MS had to write XML based Office file format instead of the clumsy and proprietary mess. There are far more examples around. As a result consumers are given choice and transparency.

Finally you may or may not be concerned about NSA / GCHQ backdoors and competitor spying. If you run sensitive business you might. Well open source is the closest we have to ensure it doesn't happen. CyanogenMod version of android is certainly the one to use on the smartphones.
 
OK it came to me last night (it's amazing how a beer or two helps the grey matter).

Apple stated in the WWDC event in September that photo sharing in iCloud wouldn't be possible 'till the new Photos app became available. So whilst you can store your pictures on iCloud drive, and access them from your Mac(s) , you need to wait till Photos was released to share across multiple iOS devices. Photos is scheduled for 2015.
 
daugirdas said:
You see OSX was and still is the best *NIX out there. I grew up with linux; I really don't need to be educated about it. It is a fine OS, sadly still begging for Adobe and other 3rd party support and some nice matching OEM hardware. I hope you are not suggesting I should give up Ligthroom, Photoshop and all my work's software.



I appreciate you may be unaware of some IT history. MS has tried to prevent any other OS and even non-MS applications on PCs. MS used dirty business practice to stop manufacturers shipping with competitor software. MS has branded OSS as cancer. That is as close to corporate evil as it gets and the fines by both US and EU clearly confirm that. Or to put it the other way round, there would be far less and worse choice for consumer if they got the upper hand.

GPL and other open source licenses are the single biggest reason we have linux and android in particular; it is the underlying base of OS X, and it is the reason we are not stuck with IE6 as the only browser. Chrome(ium), Safari (KHTML) and firefox are all Open-source or closely derived. MS had to write XML based Office file format instead of the clumsy and proprietary mess. There are far more examples around. As a result consumers are given choice and transparency.

Finally you may or may not be concerned about NSA / GCHQ backdoors and competitor spying. If you run sensitive business you might. Well open source is the closest we have to ensure it doesn't happen. CyanogenMod version of android is certainly the one to use on the smartphones.
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I wouldn't make so many assumptions about other people if I was you. If only you knew ;) I actually can't see the point even attempting to discuss the variety of points you are bringing up since it is in my opinion a confused mixandmatch of various snippets that confirms a version of the truth for you.
 
In the usage->storage-> manage storage I can see a summary of all docs in there and their associated apps. That might at least give you a list of potential apps you could browse with.

Personally I'd just use dropbox instead. Open the app and it just shows everything in there in a directory structure. No fuss and no guesswork.

If you use iphotos photostream then the sharing across multiple devices does what I want from it. It's seemless so I'm not sure what the point of photos in icloud is to enable sharing across multiple devices when it already does that fine with photostream.
 
dejongj said:
a version of the truth for you.
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Do you care to expand on the last bit in a lot more detail please?!

Unless you are Apple or MS employee or partner I really fail to see what irritates you. We [hopefully] are all in the same boat after all. We want software to work for us, not just governments and the largest corporate institutions. Software is not just an iToy, it is an integral part of our households and is yet to become even more important.
 
daugirdas said:
Do you care to expand on the last bit in a lot more detail please?!

Unless you are Apple or MS employee or partner I really fail to see what irritates you. We [hopefully] are all in the same boat after all. We want software to work for us, not just governments and the largest corporate institutions. Software is not just an iToy, it is an integral part of our households and is yet to become even more important.
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I don't agree at all that the open file system is the way forward. To me it is a very archaic method of getting to your data. And he desire to continue to manage that through a file browser seems alien to me. There is so much meta data, so many locations it could be. The need to manage it like you are suggesting and propose is to me at best ten years out of date and not one that should continue in the future.

And no I do not work for apple nor Microsoft not that has anything to do with it. I just like my technology to assist me in the tasks that I need it to do opposed to getting in the way.
 
dejongj said:
I don't agree at all that the open file system is the way forward. To me it is a very archaic method of getting to your data. And he desire to continue to manage that through a file browser seems alien to me. There is so much meta data, so many locations it could be. The need to manage it like you are suggesting and propose is to me at best ten years out of date and not one that should continue in the future.

And no I do not work for apple nor Microsoft not that has anything to do with it. I just like my technology to assist me in the tasks that I need it to do opposed to getting in the way.
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Is it fair to say you are more of a consumer type user whereas I am more of a "creator" of content? I agree there will always be some clash between the two and this is where I would like to see OS X reserved exclusively for the latter user.

I agree about the metadata. Sometimes it really helps to sort out the grain from the weed, and it is really not a very new concept. Around 10 years old if not more. However, that shouldn't take away the ability to access, COPY and DELETE files directly.

I happen to sort my data by project and experiment numbers. I have all sorts of formats. The iOS as the sole system would make it completely impossible to survive a single day. Half a day even.
The photos also tend to live based on the projects, locations, people, etc. A canon file name will be of no help finding the file, particularly if it is not [yet] keyworded. If it is - I have long finished with it ages ago.

Cataloging stuff into shelves and folders is a very natural way of archiving data. Piling everything on a desk with random colour stickers (metadata) is not as efficient IMHO.
 
No I'm most definitely not merely a consumer. Unfortunately I can't go into the detail of what I do, but think a much much larger scale. Both structured and unstructured data.

However applying that comes with some change in working practises. Trying to combine the old ways of doing it with the current technology won't work. And that is something that to me really comes across from quite a number of posts. Personally I think looking for the iOS iCloud Drive as a sole system is the incorrect way of looking at it. In that world the workflow focussed on the applications not on the file storage.
 
OK so iCloud drive isn't' ready for photo sharing yet. But it does work for Pages, Numbers and Keynote. Next year hopefully in the first quarter we will have Photos , then it will. iCloud drive can be used for storage and sharing ( It works with Windows as well, there's an app for that ). You can use it store images, data and other stuff in the cloud ( or rather a sever in Nevada ). Personally I won't be migrating from DropBox.But it does help people who don't back up and we know there are millions of them. All their precious pictures and data automatically stored for them. Plus it does produce an ongoing revenue stream for Apple. The prices aren't exorbitant 5Gb free and only 79p/month for 20Gb.

Apple do have a history of introducing products and service which aren't always fully formed. Give iCloud 6-9 months and I'm sure most people will wonder what all the fuss is about.

I did think of a way of getting around the problem of accessing photo's on iOS devices. You can log into iCloud via a browser, and get to iCloud drive. Works fine on a Mac but try it on an iOS device and it keeps sending you to a iCloud set up page on your device. Damned annoying.
 
iCloud photos is out in Beta for Mac, all my images/videos from my iPhone/Ipad are in the iCloud, without having to go through iPhoto/aperture etc to get them on Mac, which is great.

You can play/delete them from Mac, I haven't found a way of directly (drag and drop) them from Mac to ICloud photo.

A major (and needed) step forward.
 
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