Icelanders Overthrow Government and Rewrite Constitution...

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I've just been chatting to neighbours and none of them new about this, I don't real regular BS news much, just wondering if and how you knew?

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Great video of Icelanders opinions and how they went about solving the problems.

WE are only as informed as they decide, leaving each of us with as little power (knowledge is power) as possible, and therefore no inspiration to do anything about it.

.... we've had our strength stolen guys, maybe its time to claim it back?
 
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The group, "Anonymous" have said the same thing for the past 4yrs. I suggest people support them. Anyone hear of the million mask march. This was held on the 5th Nov this year, very little media coverage. Governments are controlled by the banks the banks control money. People should watch, "The Money Masters" a fascinating documentary from 1996 that predicted the meltdown of the financial system in 2088.
 
sbowler579 said:
The group, "Anonymous" have said the same thing for the past 4yrs. I suggest people support them. Anyone hear of the million mask march. This was held on the 5th Nov this year, very little media coverage. Governments are controlled by the banks the banks control money. People should watch, "The Money Masters" a fascinating documentary from 1996 that predicted the meltdown of the financial system in 2088.
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True! No media coverage of the million mask march, like lots of other stories that the powers that be would rather we didn't know about.
 
Just noticed I posted the collapse of the financial system in 2088. :):bonk:
 
Lets hope it's a prediction of the next crash.:lol:
 
Maggie52 said:
True! No media coverage of the million mask march, like lots of other stories that the powers that be would rather we didn't know about.
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Very true. There were no media reports in, say,the Guardian, or the Washington Post, or even The Voice Of Russia. Naturally the BBC didn't give it a mention. And if you Google 'Million Mask March' you certainly won't get 63,000,000 hits.

Who are these 'powers that be'? Lizards?
 
That is the 63,000,000 dollar question! Thank goodness for Twitter:)
 
...and all the news media that covered the story quite thoroughly. Do you agree that the media did in fact cover the story?
 
On the mass protest recently I would say the main brit media covered the story as briefly as possible, and certainly, I remember thinking that morning, not to the same full-on extent that other euro countries seemed too be doing.

Id say the same about the Icelanders government story too, brief and not nearly as news worthy as going over the MP's pay rise, for the second time, for a few days main headlines, for instance.

jon ryan said:
Very true. There were no media reports in, say,the Guardian, or the Washington Post, or even The Voice Of Russia. Naturally the BBC didn't give it a mention. And if you Google 'Million Mask March' you certainly won't get 63,000,000 hits.

Who are these 'powers that be'? Lizards?
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So why have you said that Jon, really I don't get it! Do you think the 'powers that be' 'those', 'them' the big players, don't exist? Why are you not taking part in discussing the solution rather than offering kinda playground denials!
 
When I said no media coverage I should really have been more precise and I apologise. I was referring of course to UK mainstream media, ie BBC ITV and Sky News as they are the news channels I guess that are watched most by the general population. Other than The Gaurdian, I'm not sure of the numbers of people who regularly tune into The Voice of Russia or The Washington Post.
 
Maggie52 said:
When I said no media coverage I should really have been more precise and I apologise. I was referring of course to UK mainstream media, ie BBC ITV and Sky News as they are the news channels I guess that are watched most by the general population. Other than The Gaurdian, I'm not sure of the numbers of people who regularly tune into The Voice of Russia or The Washington Post.
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It was basically a non-story: "Small protest in London, no rioting". There are loads of protests in London, most of them small, most pass off peacefully. The Beeb and other major news gatherers choose from a huge daily number of stories, and pick the ones they think best reflect public interest. I don't know how other countries reported it, or how many attended the other protests, but I guess non of them got many marchers in terms of, say, the Student Fees march which attracted around 30,000.

But the event was widely covered, in many countries, which is why I cited a couple of wide-spread examples.

Forbiddenbiker said:
So why have you said that Jon, really I don't get it! Do you think the 'powers that be' 'those', 'them' the big players, don't exist? Why are you not taking part in discussing the solution rather than offering kinda playground denials!
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The big players do of course exist, but while many groups are able to influence various governments - look at the NRA over the water - none of them run the government, which seems to be the implication here. If that were the case, the protests would have been stopped.

We are lucky to live in one of the most liberal countries on the planet. I loathe some of the stuff various Parliaments do - bedroom tax and what this lot are doing to the NHS, for instance - but they don't machine gun you for not clapping enthusiastically enough as happened in North Korea yesterday. But all-in-all, it isn't a bad place to live. Wishing for Utopia is futile.
 
I've had a bit of contact with people involved in Anonymous over the last few years through diaspora and the Libertree network. Be careful what you wish for and what you support, because a lot of these guys really do want to turn the world upside down in no uncertain terms, but without minding the consequences of their actions. They really aren't interested in replacing a corrupt government with a benign one supporting a similar society structure, but want a radical change that would affect everything from healthcare to employment.

Investigate & make up your own minds.
 
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The big players do of course exist, but while many groups are able to influence various governments - look at the NRA over the water - none of them run the government, which seems to be the implication here. If that were the case, the protests would have been stopped.

We are lucky to live in one of the most liberal countries on the planet. I loathe some of the stuff various Parliaments do - bedroom tax and what this lot are doing to the NHS, for instance - but they don't machine gun you for not clapping enthusiastically enough as happened in North Korea yesterday. But all-in-all, it isn't a bad place to live. Wishing for Utopia is futile.
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I don't see it like ABC as you do, for me the financial exchange markets (banks, exchanges, derivatives, hedging etcetera) are now monopolising our economy to such an extent that our governments have lost control of the steering wheel, brakes and accelerator. For instance our housing market values derive directly from the loans and debts calculated against them, all controlled and manipulated by the financial markets, not us.
The uks financial bank trading turnover is now about ten times the size of the rest of the UK's annual production combined... yes they make profits but inevitably loses are made and when the loses are ten times the size of normal trade, yet didn't use any consumption costs and profits of physical resources to achieve, it becomes obvious that no matter how hard we and our government work to balanced the books we cannot compete as equals!
Being as we are clearly unequal in this matter, our government have lost control of our economy, the maths don't lie, no matter how hard we 'keep calm and carry on' our wonderful old capital system has reached the pinnacle of its 200 year growth, it has run out of cheaper hedging resources, and it is now consuming us and our futures.

We didn't see much about the 5 million who protested that day. So stopped or ignored achieves a similar result. ;)

Yes we are lucky, no ones wishing for Utopia here, just small improvements in our future will do right. :)
 
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Maggie52 said:
Would you say this is a non story?

I worked in the NHS all my working career, it saddens me to hear the constant negative press it receives. I am not under any illusion that it doesn't have its problems, but what worries me is exactly what this story highlights. When people eventually get the message it will be too late.

http://mikesivier.wordpress.com/201...ts-while-our-politicians-have-nothing-to-say/
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Yes indeed that is the problem, no one want to hear any more and the politicians hands are tied by austerity.
 
I agree with Adam regarding the banks and financial systems. The government is not in control the financial system is.
 
sbowler579 said:
The government is not in control the financial system is.
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and no doubt the UN and the secret world government is going to dominate us and remove our right to bear arms , head for the hills with your armalites comrades before its too late (jews and blacks need not apply)
 
Forbiddenbiker said:
WE are only as informed as they decide, leaving each of us with as little power (knowledge is power) as possible, and therefore no inspiration to do anything about it.

.... we've had our strength stolen guys, maybe its time to claim it back?
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also just the fact that you can find the 'information' and post it online without consequence shows that the conspiracy theory is b*****ks - if 'they' were really controlling our every move by feeding us proganda from the ministry of truth - you'd have had your door kicked in by the ministry of love at 3am on Saturday morning
 
to be quite honest these days if i want to know whats going on in the world with a bit of TRUTH thrown in and a unbiased p.o.v i tend to watch al-jazeera news channel ,the bbc and itn and sky are all controlled as are most newspapers ,just go abroad for a week watch bbc world news and come home and compare it to the b******t we are fed ,no comparison
 
thats fair enough but al jazerra arent un biased, they are just biased in a different direction - personally i'd watch several different sources and make my own mind up (oh and talking of going abroad if you think news is censored here try china, north korea, zimbabwe, myanmar etc
 
big soft moose said:
thats fair enough but al jazerra arent un biased, they are just biased in a different direction - personally i'd watch several different sources and make my own mind up (oh and talking of going abroad if you think news is censored here try china, north korea, zimbabwe, myanmar etc
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RT News is good fun if you want an alternative viewpoint :)
It's about as biased as you can get, not forgetting Fox News...

Overall, our news channels are not too bad. Of course, if your own, personal, view is biased...
 
kendo1 said:
RT News is good fun if you want an alternative viewpoint :)
It's about as biased as you can get, not forgetting Fox News...

Overall, our news channels are not too bad. Of course, if your own, personal, view is biased...
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This is the point. Everyone's personal view is biased by the information we consume on a daily basis, To be more precise its information chosen by us which goes some way to confirm our personal biases and opinions, and comforts us with the knowledge that our perspective agrees the/a majority.

The/a majority perspective being biased by the information they consume on a daily basis! .... So who's biased view is who's is the question?
 
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It comes down to what a majority of the populace want to believe, I suppose, which then shapes future generations thoughts...
 
Yeah that's it, trouble what they believe is biased daily by our now 'pop' media organisations who's aim is to dominate the market and make profits, rather than proper investigation and accurate reporting of truths and news ....So the future generations you mention like my adult son are now totally bemused and despise any suggestion that an authority's word can be trusted because all they've seen is examples of the opposite so far.

If you want accurate news nowadays you'd have to search the independent journalists for alternate opinions and investigate for yourself what the real story might have been. You can be sure that many current profession career journalist, editors, owners have worried and shelved great investigations simply because they are unbelievable or rock the boat tooo much.
 
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