I won't shoot gay weddings: am I odd?

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I personally cannot get used to the sight of homosexual couple's 'weddings'. Obviously I am old-fashioned, but am I queer?

Please note that no offence whatsoever is intended by this post, I am being honest and would just like to know what TP members think.
 
why would it make you queer? Am I right in thinking you're using the word as a descriptive one for gay people?

My motto is live and let live. I fail to see what a persons sexuality has to do with how they should be treated. And no, i'm not homosexual for those thinking I have a bias here.
 
would you shoot a wedding with two females?
 
Makes absolutely no difference to me at all. I love to see peoples faces light up with happiness, the genders involved don't make one iota of a difference to me.

I know you said you might be old fashioned but I noticed that you need to put the word "wedding" in parintheses, almost as if it does not have credibility to you. It certainly has a lot of credibility to them!
 
Baz777 said:
I really do not think this should be up for discussion here, your personal choice.
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why not open discussion site is it not, or should we not discuss our fears and personal attitudes on here?

if so can we stop discussing peadophiles as i find it offensive.
 
Honestly I don't know whether it would bother me, until the chance arose to give it a go.

On one hand I'd say don't be so silly, on the other you should only do what you feel entirely comfortable with. I see no reason to force yourself to do something you aren't happy about as the results will no doubt suffer.
 
AliB said:
Makes absolutely no difference to me at all. I love to see peoples faces light up with happiness, the genders involved don't make one iota of a difference to me.

I know you said you might be old fashioned but I noticed that you need to put the word "wedding" in parintheses, almost as if it does not have credibility to you. It certainly has a lot of credibility to them!
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i dont think they are weddings are they, are they not classed as civil ceromony?
 
You're not queer. (Although some people say that the most avid anti-homosexuals harbour actual homosexual urges and have an inability to deal with it, hence the outward display of disgust).

Anyway, you're not queer, you're just a bigot. Dress it up as old-fashioned if you like, but it's plain and simple intolerance. :)

No offense intended of course, just stating what it is :)
 
So why not use the term "civil ceremony"?

Just a small language point that kind of transmits ivortripods lack of comfort with the situation.

And it's true, if you are not comfortable doing it, don't do it. :)
 
Marcel said:
You're not queer. (Although some people say that the most avid anti-homosexuals harbour actual homosexual urges and have an inability to deal with it, hence the outward display of disgust).

Anyway, you're not queer, you're just a bigot. Dress it up as old-fashioned if you like, but it's plain and simple intolerance. :)

No offense intended of course, just stating what it is :)
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are you now not forcing your view onto the OP? i think the OP posted his discomfort not his hatred of an act that he finds uncomfortable to deal with, i say good on him for doing this. in the PC world you are no longer allowed an opinion.

if he had been offensive and homophobic then i would of been first to jump.
 
Marcel said:
You're not queer. (Although some people say that the most avid anti-homosexuals harbour actual homosexual urges and have an inability to deal with it, hence the outward display of disgust).

Anyway, you're not queer, you're just a bigot. Dress it up as old-fashioned if you like, but it's plain and simple intolerance. :)

No offense intended of course, just stating what it is :)
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Why should ivorpod be labelled a bigot just because his beliefs are different from yours? does this not make you a bigot?

No offense intended just a question.
 
You're straying off the point of my post.
Gay couples can behave as they want, but I don't wish to witness and record it for anybody.
What's wrong with that ?
 
ivortripod said:
You're straying off the point of my post.
Gay couples can behave as they want, but I don't wish to witness and record it for anybody.
What's wrong with that ?
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agree with your point of view, if you had been hating the people not the act then i would of questioned you, but good on you for been able to discuss your feelings about this.
 
I think it's a slight case of discrimination. Ivortripod stated "I won't shoot gay weddings" The fact is that by making that statement he is, in effect, discriminating against someone on the basis of their sexuality. That can rather easily be taken as a somewhat bigotted attitude.

Personally, I'm more each to their own and have not problem with it at all but I do understand the point ivortripod is making. Not everyone's belief systems are as forgiving as mine.
 
My cousins daughter is having a civil ceremony and they asked me to do their photos, I did some trails of both girls on an old motor bike, nothing to do with the wedding just to see what did and didnt work, and they loved the photos, I am not in the slightest bit bothered that its a civil ceremony, Im more bothered that its the first wedding shoot I have been asked to do, I have done lots of family wedding shoots but not being their main tog, just as a family member, its on the 08/08/08
 
I've never been asked to a single-sex ceremony
B&B I could handle
G&G I would feel most uncomfortable
and it would show in any work I did
so turning down G&G ceremony makes sense to me
 
ivortripod said:
You're straying off the point of my post.
Gay couples can behave as they want, but I don't wish to witness and record it for anybody.
What's wrong with that ?
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What is potentially wrong there is that sexuality is a dangerous thing to be using as a criteria to split who is acceptable from who isn't. In most aspects of your life you may have photographed gay men and women and have had no idea about it.

As an example, if you shot an image using a business man in a suit, in a working pose, you would have no idea of his sexuality and I presume no issues with that as a job. If that same man then approached you to take some pics of him and another man, celebrating with family and friends, would it be so different?
 
Marcel said:
Anyway, you're not queer, you're just a bigot. Dress it up as old-fashioned if you like, but it's plain and simple intolerance. :)

No offense intended of course, just stating what it is :)
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I think it's a bit harsh to call someone a bigot when they feel uncomfortable when they cannot get used to the sight of homosexual couple's 'weddings', I don't know how old ivortripod is but many people from a certain generation do feel uncomfortable with this subject and they shouldn't be castigated so abruptly. It's very similar to when a discussion about race or ethnicity comes to an abrupt halt when the term racist is used which is why you see and hear "I'm not racist but...." so often. In our modern, litiguous society people are often frightened to have a frank and open discussion in case they get labelled, which then takes the focus away from the original debate.

Personally, I don't have a problem with gay weddings/civil ceremonies but what I don't like is when overt displays of any race/creed/religion/persuasion is rammed down my throat (hmmmm, poor turn of phrase methinks :lol:)

No offense intended of course, just stating what it is :)
 
I my day job I have a few, well quite alot of Gay customers, this is not a problem to me and we have a really good laugh - I really like the idea of shooting a same sex marriage as I know it will be a very flamboyant, happy day, going by the people I know. I know this wouldn't be the same for every ceremony but the 'pink pound' is one that is worth more than the average pound in most cases.

Bring it on and to me it shows the diversity of your work, most Weddings that I would aim to be shooting are around my own age or younger and would be comfortable knowing that I am not predujice.

You know what, I wouldn't even mind specialising as it would be such a laugh, thats why I love Weddings, happy smiley people everywhere.

I understand that people are uncomfortable and to me that is fine, you could always be 'busy' on the day they request, throw the booking my way, I will do it and enjoy it with people that really know how to spend money and have a good time, families still shed a tear and right or wrong its two people making a commitment to each other, that is to be commended in my book.

I am 100% straight by the way.
 
hotchef23 said:
are you now not forcing your view onto the OP? i think the OP posted his discomfort not his hatred of an act that he finds uncomfortable to deal with, i say good on him for doing this. in the PC world you are no longer allowed an opinion.

if he had been offensive and homophobic then i would of been first to jump.
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Not forcing my view at all. He asked a question, I answered it.

FWIW he's perfectly entitled to have his opinion. He doesn't like the sight of a gay wedding, and if I'm honest, I couldn't care less if he doesn't.
Doesn't change my opinion of him either, that's his opinin, and part of his likes and dislikes.

Me? I'm indifferent. It can be two men, two women, a woman and three pygmies getting married. Doesn't bother me either way.

However, he can't dress it up as 'old fashioned', it is bigotry, which is the intolerance of a belief different to his own.
 
At the end of the day if you shoot weddings for a living then it's just money, who cares who the subjects are, if you can afford not to take the the job on its your loss not theirs.

As long as they don't try and convert me I have no problem with them.
 
Sorry I don't understand why you would bring this up.
Although you've put it in a photographic concept it, I really don't think it has much merit on a photography discussion board.

What next?
I won't take pictures of black people?

Oh and yes I think you are bigoted or at best very immature if not insecure.

No offence meant.
 
I think that the use of the word "Queer" in this instance is offensive.

Queer: Slang: Disparaging and Offensive.
a. homosexual.
b. effeminate; unmanly

Each to his or her own, live and let live. (and I am really old fashioned)
 
ivortripod said:
You're straying off the point of my post.
Gay couples can behave as they want, but I don't wish to witness and record it for anybody.
What's wrong with that ?
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Nothing wrong with that... but why start a post about it. People have shared their opinions, to which they are also entitled. My view, live and let live... and I'd be quite happy to shoot a gay wedding. As for civil partnerships not being weddings... I was married in a licensed country house hotel, a civil ceremony, does that mean it wasn't a wedding.
 
I'm going out in a few minutes and by the way this is degenerating I wonder if the thread will be locked by the time I get back.


Shame, because it could have been a good discussion.
 
OK, actually I think bigot may have been too harsh a term to use, and for that I apologise.
I think perhaps I misread the post and his intentions.

I did read it as an intolerance, rather than a discomfort. Discomfort is acceptable. There can be many reasons behind it, for example, his upbringing, surroundings, past experiences socially etc.

If it is simple discomfort and he simply doesn't wish to record it, then fair enough, that's his choice. He tolerates it, but it is uncomfortable seeing it. That's merely a viewpoint and a choice then, just like me not liking ugly women ;)

So no...not queer, just a bit fruity :p
 
Its a shame some people feel this way, my first and only wedding to date was two ladies, and I didnt have any problem at all. If anything, a male and male wedding would prob be better :D

The title confused me though, queer to me means homesexual, not queer as in "a bit weird"

Sorry, that post was of no use was it? :D
 
Marcel said:
OK, actually I think bigot may have been too harsh a term to use, and for that I apologise.
I think perhaps I misread the post and his intentions.

I did read it as an intolerance, rather than a discomfort. Discomfort is acceptable. There can be many reasons behind it, for example, his upbringing, surroundings, past experiences socially etc.

If it is simple discomfort and he simply doesn't wish to record it, then fair enough, that's his choice. He tolerates it, but it is uncomfortable seeing it. That's merely a viewpoint and a choice then, just like me not liking ugly women ;)

So no...not queer, just a bit fruity :p
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Explanation accepted! :)
 
I am willing to take odds on this thread being closed down or locked by the end of the night .... Any takers?

We have seen it so many times on here before with this type of thread.

Strongly held views will surface and turn it into a slanging match.


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To already have enough cash to be that picky would be nice :)
 
I don't see what difference it makes personally, but each to their own. I suppose if you've grown up in a generation where homosexuality was immoral and frowned upon, then you may well feel uncomfortable presented with the situation of a gay wedding. I've grown up in a generation where homosexuality is legal and widely accepted and I don't bat an eyelid.

I have seen increasing numbers of gay couples in the maternity system too :D
 
hypnotic said:
I am willing to take odds on this thread being closed down or locked by the end of the night .... Any takers?

We have seen it so many times on here before with this type of thread.

Strongly held views will surface and turn it into a slanging match.


:canon:
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This is looking very fair to me, closing it would be a pity...
 
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