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Below is the link to a Guide Association petition to ban airbrushing photos because of the pressure it puts on impressionable young girls,I think we should all support this if not for that reason then also for the fact that it gives photographers and photography a bad name.


http://www.girlguiding.org.uk/home/support_our_petition.aspx#public
 
Well before i start, this aint ever gonna happen, well know it, but i suppose its nice to express your principles all the same.

What pressure does it put on girls exactly, to be more attractive?

If we had pictures of large, greasy-skinned women everywhere then my girlfriend would think that spending all day on facebook eating Galaxy is a good idea. My girlfriend complains about her weight all the time, i try to give advice and support and we buy exercise equipment too but she never uses it, she ends up spending all evening eating chocolate instead.

She says "well compared to the average woman im normal" which she may be, but we are in the midst of a obesity epidemic so sometimes normal aint good enough.

Woman say they feel pressured to look good, so what to they do, buy make-up and tanning lotion and spend money having the hair and nails done, so they end up looking bad anyway. If more people in general (especially woman because they seem to moan about it all the time) spent more effort on diet and exercise then they would all be 10 times more attractive.

But we are all a bunch of lazy gits who are never gonna be happy with ourselves and will find any excuse to put the blame anywhere but themselves.

I aint ever gonna have a six-pack, but if Mr. Vogue wants one PP'd on then i dont care. Infact it was those types of pictures that 'pressured' me into doing weights and exercise. I dont look like Brad Pitt, but im im much better shape than i was 6 years ago.

Thanks mass media!!
 
CaptainPenguin said:
Below is the link to a Guide Association petition to ban airbrushing photos because of the pressure it puts on impressionable young girls,I think we should all support this if not for that reason then also for the fact that it gives photographers and photography a bad name.


http://www.girlguiding.org.uk/home/support_our_petition.aspx#public
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Sorry, but I can't see the point of it? :thinking: ..... Putting a label on all obese kids saying "My parents are stupid" might be a better idea .... ;)
 
CaptainPenguin said:
Below is the link to a Guide Association petition to ban airbrushing photos because of the pressure it puts on impressionable young girls,I think we should all support this if not for that reason then also for the fact that it gives photographers and photography a bad name.


http://www.girlguiding.org.uk/home/support_our_petition.aspx#public
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I've read a few stupid theads on here over the past couple of years but this one takes the cigar. Is it April 1st aleady?
 
Blimey, i though i was gonna get a right flaming for what i said.

I feel sorry for Nigel now though. You're intentions are good Nigel and thats important to remember, but it seems people are pretty split on this one.

Did your other half get you roped in on this one, or is this really a personal crusade of yours?
 
Adey said:
Blimey, i though i was gonna get a right flaming for what i said.

I feel sorry for Nigel now though. You're intentions are good Nigel and thats important to remember, but it seems people are pretty split on this one.

Did your other half get you roped in on this one, or is this really a personal crusade of yours?
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My other half is 200 miles away at present and this was a post by a friend on Facebook,I am saddened at the response as its not a personal crusade I just think that all the airbrushed photo's that may or may not cause impressionable young girls to head down the anorexia route gives those of us who love photography a bad image.But hey I've signed it and if nobody else wants to well its a free world.

Sad that there had to be insults though
 
well its kinda dumb, some people on here earn their living through the media, we can shelve this thread with the 'larger ladies' one in talk NnG
 
Young girls get eating disorders and the 'bleeding hearts' blame someone else for it. It's pathetic. It's time people took responsibility for their own actions.
 
Im sorry Nigel but girls dont go down the anorexia route because of advertising.
Girls go down that route because of major issues based in their family and social life.
People have always found ways to self abuse, because of depression and psychological issues, anorexia is just a vehicle. If we didnt have posters and magazines it would be something else.

People really need to start taking responabilty for there actions. We used to use religion as a way of shirking our responsibilities, now we blame murder on GTA and anorexia on the glamour industy. Why dont peole start taking seriously that fact that most people dont know how to raise kids properly, how would that sound in the houses of parliment?

Oh no we cant have that, its gotta all be someone elses fault.
 
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if people are so concerned by there weight and appearance maybe they should 'work' to loko that good, not just jump on the next fad XD

i see magasines like this all the time that the missus leaves about but not once has she said 'ooo i wish i looked this thin/tanned/like her' because then she wouldnt be my girlfriend :S
 
Adey said:
Im sorry Nigel but girls dont go down the anorexia route because of advertising.
Girls go down that route because of major issues based in their family and social life.
People have always found ways to self abuse, because of depression and psychological issues, anorexia is just a vehicle. If we didnt have posters and magazines it would be something else.

People really need to start taking responabilty for there actions. We used to use religion as a way of shirking our responsibilities, now we blame murder on GTA and anorexia on the glamour industy. Why dont peole start taking seriously that fact that most people dont know how to raise kids properly, how would that sound in the houses of parliment?

Oh no we cant have that, its gotta all be someone elses fault.
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Well said :clap::clap::clap:
 
I'm not going to comment on the morals of this as I don't want to get drawn into an argument but all i'l say is, never going to happen because where do you draw the line?
Grubby mark on the studio backdrop, just clone it out.
Oh no, airbrushing images is banned.
Didn't notice a label was sticking out when you were shooting, just sort it in photoshop.
Oh no, airbrushing images is banned.
And so on...
 
Come on guys, don't get pedantic; we know what they mean by airbrushing - major alterations to body shape, skin etc that would be realistically unachievable without getting ill.

Ultimately the media does have an effect and quite a big one at that.
 
BTW. I think it is not the odd spot/blemish etc that is the problem, it's more extreme than that. A bit like what Kate Winsett complained of a few years ago.
 
scottcampbell said:
Come on guys, don't get pedantic; we know what they mean by airbrushing - major alterations to body shape, skin etc that would be realistically unachievable without getting ill.

Ultimately the media does have an effect and quite a big one at that.
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Without sounding patronising and I am sorry that I probably do, you come across with much more sense than some of the elders here.
 
NigelPaul said:
Without sounding patronising and I am sorry that I probably do, you come across with much more sense than some of the elders here.
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Thanks! I felt like writing a bit of a longer post but thought I'd keep it concise.
 
It's an excuse to blame someone / something else! :cuckoo:
 
scottcampbell said:
Come on guys, don't get pedantic; we know what they mean by airbrushing - major alterations to body shape, skin etc that would be realistically unachievable without getting ill.

Ultimately the media does have an effect and quite a big one at that.
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Totally agree! However, I also agree that even if it were possible to police such a ban or get the media to agree to it, there is still the issue of where a line would be drawn. I was listening to the Wright Stuff yesterday where they were discussing a 'proud to be fat' type magazine that has just gone from internet only to being available on shelves in newsagents - it was argued that this is equally detrimental to health and possibly so but the point I am slowly getting to is that someone on the show mentioned that in Germany, the glossy magazines have now started featuring a mix of women from right across the spectrum, from super models super airbrushed, to absolutely normal, size 12-24 women in their fashion and editorial features - because the readership demanded it. Perhaps THATS what we should be campaigning for, inclusivity for all shapes, sizes and colours showing them as normal and able to wear fashionable clothes, make up etc, instead of banning air brushing on a few high earning models.

So for that reason I wont be signing the petition, because whilst I can understand the sentiment, I think its misplaced.
 
Did I just get a post deleted? WTF? I am a father of a 14 year old and feel her pressure sometimes.
Me! I've just turned 49, but feel that I should have a six pack and a willy no shorter than 9in's
 
NigelPaul said:
Did I just get a post deleted? WTF? I am a father of a 14 year old and feel her pressure sometimes.
Me! I've just turned 49, but feel that I should have a six pack and a willy no shorter than 9in's
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:lol: I think my reply just got deleted too ... ;)
 
NigelPaul said:
Did I just get a post deleted? WTF? I am a father of a 14 year old and feel her pressure sometimes.
Me! I've just turned 49, but feel that I should have a six pack and a willy no shorter than 9in's
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difference is, YOU are technically old enough to know it ain't likely to happen [unless there is something you haven't told us :eek: ] ....like knowing that 2 blokes showing any signs of getting into a puerile debate at gone midnight is likely to get stopped before it gets started. ;)
 
Yv said:
difference is, YOU are technically old enough to know it ain't likely to happen [unless there is something you haven't told us :eek: ] ....like knowing that 2 blokes showing any signs of getting into a puerile debate at gone midnight is likely to get stopped before it gets started. ;)
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My reply was to Lucy.....doesn't sound like another bloke to me?:shrug:

Just expressed my opinion as Lucy did (:cuckoo:), nothing wrong with that is there?
Any how Yv, give you credit for deleting both posts in the end, makes it fair ;)

Will have to say I wasn't looking for a scrap though, just an interesting debate.
 
NigelPaul said:
My reply was to Lucy.....doesn't sound like another bloke to me?:shrug:

Just expressed my opinion as Lucy did (:cuckoo:), nothing wrong with that is there?
Any how Yv, give you credit for deleting both posts in the end, makes it fair ;)

Will have to say I wasn't looking for a scrap though, just an interesting debate.
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:agree:

I simply asked for you to explain your point of view rather than using the emoticons ..... :thinking:
 
Yv said:
Lucy? ahhh.....ok.....I still say two blokes :lol:

STOP arguing, I deleted TWO posts, one each, now do debate, but not with silly condescending smileys please, its way to late at night for that
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:D
 
:D
 
Lucy, I agree to disagree whatever your deleted post was,;):D
 
I thought everybody just knew there was a difference between real life and what we see in magazines / adverts.

Even the way the chocolate bar wrappers open on TV with that perfectly smooth tear is false.

My eldest daughter is just approaching the age where she'll be potentionally influenced by magazines and TV but as far as I'm concerned it's more down to parental education and common sense as to what's correct and 'normal'.
 
Putting make up/creams on in the morning. Isn't that a form of airbrushing:wave: we've all personally been faking our appearence for an age. We're just not as goodlooking as we would all like to be. can't blame the media for :gag:
 
EdinburghGary said:
I use liquify on larger ladies, knock a few inches off. It makes more money, fact. I would ignore such a daft rule.

Gary.
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I agree. The point is that how society in the western world has embedded what we should like. I refer back to the killing me softly link.

difference is, YOU are technically old enough to know it ain't likely to happen
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Yv, I know I am technically old enough to know I'm unlikely to have a six pack (once again!;) ) and unlikely for my willy to grow above 9 in's at my age, but the point of the debate was how young girls feel pressured to look like airbrushed models in magazines. :(
 
dinners said:
I thought everybody just knew there was a difference between real life and what we see in magazines / adverts.

Even the way the chocolate bar wrappers open on TV with that perfectly smooth tear is false.

My eldest daughter is just approaching the age where she'll be potentionally influenced by magazines and TV but as far as I'm concerned it's more down to parental education and common sense as to what's correct and 'normal'.
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I'm a good parent. I have also been a good foster parent. My daughter's pressure is because of what is percieved to be the norm by her and her peers bcause of how as a society we portray women.
 
Airbrushes......... memories. I have three or four tucked away somewhere. A couple of them cost a small fortune. Haven't seen them in years. Never used them on photographs though. Mine were for models [as in model aeroplanes etc].
 
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