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So I'm at the age I can have my Covid jab but have not received a letter so went on line to book the jab it would not let me so rang the help line nice lady took a few details and said yes that's all ok i will book you in .
After 3 goes she said sorry i can't book you in your not registered with a doctor Well I've been with the same practice all my life and my doctor has been changed 4 times that's nothing to do with me.

I have not been to the doctor's in over 40years as I have not been ILL enough to need to go - because of this they took me off the register, looking on line they can do this if you have not been to the surgery in 5 years WHY would I go if I'm not ILL perhaps for a coffee or a game of cards maybe see if he wants to play golf one weekend .

I will ring tomorrow to see if I can go back on the register as I can't have the jab until I'm on it I had no letter to tell me i was taken off and live at the same house

How ridicules is this .

Rob
 
Same happened to me, albeit a while ago, it wasn't hard to get re-registered. They don't know if you have moved to another area, left the country or whatever and there has to be a point at which they take you off the list because they do have to store records, do admin for you, etc. Apparently my records had been sent off to an archive and they just got them back.
 
GyRob said:
looking on line they can do this if you have not been to the surgery in 5 years WHY would I go if I'm not ILL perhaps for a coffee or a game of cards maybe see if he wants to play golf one weekend .
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oops I didnt know this.. I do know the dentist does this aftre an even shorter period of time.. shocked to learn doctors do :(
 
At a tangent!

When on holiday in Devon about 4 years back I was very unwell, sufficiently to make go to the doctor locally (it takes a lot to make me go.....though as I get older a few age related visits ;)

Right, back to the story......I was given a form to complete and made sure that it was clear that I was a visitor not a new resident.

Fast forward about 3 months, I needed a prescription and the pharmacist asked why I was getting it 'there' as I lived in Devon! It took a couple of months to sort out because the pharmacy said it was up to the doctor's surgery and vice versa. In the end I simply said to both.....that there must be a solution, so please sort it out!!!!
 
GyRob said:
So I'm at the age I can have my Covid jab but have not received a letter so went on line to book the jab it would not let me so rang the help line nice lady took a few details and said yes that's all ok i will book you in .
After 3 goes she said sorry i can't book you in your not registered with a doctor Well I've been with the same practice all my life and my doctor has been changed 4 times that's nothing to do with me.

I have not been to the doctor's in over 40years as I have not been ILL enough to need to go - because of this they took me off the register, looking on line they can do this if you have not been to the surgery in 5 years WHY would I go if I'm not ILL perhaps for a coffee or a game of cards maybe see if he wants to play golf one weekend .

I will ring tomorrow to see if I can go back on the register as I can't have the jab until I'm on it I had no letter to tell me i was taken off and live at the same house

How ridicules is this .

Rob
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I’ve given you a downvote because I think it’s up to you to maintain your registration with a GP, I can’t see you can blame them for that. Whether you have been ill or not is neither here nor there.

BTW you could be “ill” without knowing it. I was much the same as you, not having been to a GP in many years. When I suffered an unrelated injury the blood tests turned up a leukaemia that was not at that time giving me any problems but that meant that when it did, treatment was at hand.
 
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I’ve given you a downvote because I think it’s up to you to maintain your registration with a GP, I can’t see you can blame them for that. Whether you have been ill or not is neither here nor there.
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If someone hasn't unregistered, they should still be registered. They have every patient's address, the surgery should make contact before they take someone off their list.
 
Ref: de registering

So far I could only find this article from 2016
www.theguardian.com

Patients who do not use GP for five years 'may be barred from practice'

The plan being developed in the east of England is intended to find out if people no longer require services, have moved house or have died
www.theguardian.com www.theguardian.com


I suspect that on the face of it there might be a significant number of folk that might have/will find themselves in a similar position to @GyRob
 
Funnily enough when they said to go to the nhs website a couple of weeks ago ,I did put in d.o.b and nhs number off my prescriptions it came back as not known ??
I rang my docs and got in next day for the jab ... but it seems the system we should all trust is in reality total chaos
 
nilagin said:
If someone hasn't unregistered, they should still be registered. They have every patient's address, the surgery should make contact before they take someone off their list.
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They are being paid for people on their list so I expect there is some govt. reg. that makes them remove patients for various reasons :(. But I still don’t see why the onus should be on thedoctor not the patient, especially one that is so fit they haven’t needed a doctor for 40 years :(.
 
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They are being paid for people on their list so I expect there is some govt. reg. that makes them remove patients for various reasons :(. But I still don’t see why the onus should be on thedoctor not the patient, especially one that is so fit they haven’t needed a doctor for 40 years :(.
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It's the doctor that wants to remove them, then it is the doctor that should find out if they want to remain registered.
What does it matter if the patient is making use of the doctor or not? The doctor gets paid regardless of whether a patient is I'll or not. There is no advantage to removing patients that don't need to go to the doctor. I have been registered with the same surgery all my life and only been a handful of times. When I was a kid, if someone needed to see the doctor, you just turned up at the surgery and waited your turn in order of arrival. Now you have to telephone for an appointment and hope they can see you the same day. With more people on the list not needing to see the doctor, that leaves more opportunity for those that do need to see the doctor.
 
My daughter doesn't seem to exist for the NHS
Her doctors have been saying she's not registered with them and when she went for her covid jab
they said her details didn't match u[, luckily she had a letter sent to her last year with her NHS number on it
so they accepted her.
She contacted her doctors and it seems someone in Croydon is now using her NHS number, not even
with a similar name, they think the mix up may have happened when she got married 18 months ago and changed
her name.
Doctors have accepted her back and are now trying to sort out the problem
 
I had a similar issue a few years back. Spoke to my GP about it after I re-registered. GP surgeries are paid according to the number of patients registered. But some people move away and don’t re-register. “Ghost patients”. So the Govt cuts a portion of the GP budget to account for these patients who shouldn’t be registered. But the Govt then want surgeries to send out letters to everyone who hasn’t been seen in five years and if they don’t reply, you have to remove them from the GP list.

It’s almost like they don’t like GPs. It’s not like the emergency services keep asking me if I’ve moved. I pay for the service through taxes and I should be able to access them when I want, and not have to jump through hoops. Imagine ringing the fire brigade and being told you got “deregistered” so no fire engine will be coming to your house to save you!!
 
Last time I went to the doctors was about 6yrs ago, prior to that I that probably 15yrs only. At work we have a brief medical (blood pressure, hearing, sight, weight/ height, lung function and urine sample tests ) every couple of years, last years was a questionnaire we had to fill in ourselves because of covid. A copy of our results is always sent on to our doctors. So far that seems to have kept me registered at my doctors.
 
This must be an English thing?
 
Not been to the doctors for 22 years, had 3 nights in hospital via a&e 7 years ago but my doctor contacted me ref corvid jab the other day
 
Well I rang them it is the Doctors surgery that is at fault as in 2019 they changed my address and think i live somewhere else so I don't exist, i have lived at the same house for 40 years they say I am registered but as things don't match up It has all gone wrong .
so if they sent any mail i would not have got it they are now looking at why my address was changed.

Rob.
 
sphexx said:
I’ve given you a downvote because I think it’s up to you to maintain your registration with a GP, I can’t see you can blame them for that. Whether you have been ill or not is neither here nor there.

BTW you could be “ill” without knowing it. I was much the same as you, not having been to a GP in many years. When I suffered an unrelated injury the blood tests turned up a leukaemia that was not at that time giving me any problems but that meant that when it did, treatment was at hand.
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Not looking to argue but there is no way I would have or could have known I could be taken of the register, I doubt many people even know you need to maintain your registration with a GP or that they can take you off after 5 years.

I have posted below what appears to have happened in my case ..
Rob.
 
GyRob said:
Not looking to argue but there is no way I would have or could have known I could be taken of the register, I doubt many people even know you need to maintain your registration with a GP or that they can take you off after 5 years.

I have posted below what appears to have happened in my case ..
Rob.
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Glad you are sorting it out. Your experience is a warning to all that they’ve had nearly 12 months to make sure their login etc details are up to date with their GP & NHS. Everybody needs to check their own records for errors. Nearly all GPs are just small private businesses and of variable quality in the admin departments :(.

Snafus happen everywhere :(. I suppose the key is you should use your NHS number when checking with the surgery.

Addresses are very unreliable, I’ve posted elsewhere that my house (which originally had a name only before numbers were issued and then Royal Mail changed the postcode at least once) appears in various databases with different combinations of numbers & names and spellings, often appears more than once in a given database :(.
 
nilagin said:
Last time I went to the doctors was about 6yrs ago, prior to that I that probably 15yrs only. At work we have a brief medical (blood pressure, hearing, sight, weight/ height, lung function and urine sample tests ) every couple of years, last years was a questionnaire we had to fill in ourselves because of covid. A copy of our results is always sent on to our doctors. So far that seems to have kept me registered at my doctors.
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Do you check online to see if those letters are arriving at your doctor’s and being filed? No guarantee that anyone has read them of course, going by my experience:(.
 
Most of us have a car, many are old enough to need an MOT, annual MOTs can help spot things that can become dangerous issues

We need an MOT too even if its only 'bloods', where you only need to see the nurse, as the results of this can highlight any changes in our bodies that may be of future concern, and more specifically can catch such as Cancer really early

I'm rarely ill enough to need to go to the Docs too, but annual check-ups caught raised blood pressure that needed pills, and pills BEFORE there's a problem prevents the problem

Just re-register and go annually - same with the Dentist - its preventative :)

Dave
 
sphexx said:
Do you check online to see if those letters are arriving at your doctor’s and being filed? No guarantee that anyone has read them of course, going by my experience:(.
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What if you've no access to internet?
 
admirable said:
What if you've no access to internet?
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Let me put it kindly ... my guess, and it’s only a guess, is that most people here have access to the internet :(.

Access to online records is different, I don’t know how many GPs allow that but if not you can request a copy of any letter a hospital sends to the GP.
 
sphexx said:
Do you check online to see if those letters are arriving at your doctor’s and being filed? No guarantee that anyone has read them of course, going by my experience:(.
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Check online how? I don't even know my NHS number, the surgery would need to remind me of the number. :)
 
sphexx said:
Let me put it kindly ... my guess, and it’s only a guess, is that most people here have access to the internet :(.

Access to online records is different, I don’t know how many GPs allow that but if not you can request a copy of any letter a hospital sends to the GP.
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I've only had one hospital appointment and that had to have been about 25yrs ago.
 
nilagin said:
I've only had one hospital appointment and that had to have been about 25yrs ago.
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Your NHS number is on your blood donor card.
 
nilagin said:
Check online how? I don't even know my NHS number, the surgery would need to remind me of the number. :)
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Maybe your GP doesn’t have a website? Mine does, and gives instructions how to access your Record. they use SystmOnline (which I think many do), for which there is also a good app called AirMid (on iOS at least).
 
sphexx said:
Maybe your GP doesn’t have a website? Mine does, and gives instructions how to access your Record. they use SystmOnline (which I think many do), for which there is also a good app called AirMid (on iOS at least).
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I just found the website for my doctors surgery. They have a lot of links to different things, one being Accessible Information. Great I thought, it will probably list the information a patient could gain access to such as records if logged in. But no it is a spelling mistake, it should read Accessibility Information as it gives details about ramps etc for disabled people.
No sign of anything about looking up anything else. Looks like the only thing you can do online is book appointments and order repeat prescriptions. Even registering for that is a lot of faffing around.
 
nilagin said:
Check online how? I don't even know my NHS number, the surgery would need to remind me of the number. :)
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Maybe your GP doesn’t have a website? Mine does, and gives instructions how to access your Record. they use SystmOnline (which I think many do), for which there is also a good app called AirMid (on iOS at least).
nilagin said:
I haven't given blood since I was an apprentice. No idea where that would have gone in the last 40yrs.
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I just assumed all you fit and healthy people who haven’t needed a doctor in 20+ years would have been donating blood every year!

I had to stop a long time ago due to having to answer “yes” to a cancer question, which was a pity because I’m a fairly rare blood type and have had a few transfusions in recent years.
 
nilagin said:
I just found the website for my doctors surgery. They have a lot of links to different things, one being Accessible Information. Great I thought, it will probably list the information a patient could gain access to such as records if logged in. But no it is a spelling mistake, it should read Accessibility Information as it gives details about ramps etc for disabled people.
No sign of anything about looking up anything else. Looks like the only thing you can do online is book appointments and order repeat prescriptions. Even registering for that is a lot of faffing around.
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In my case the “booking appointments & repeat scripts” is all done in the SystmOnline site which includes access to your records etc. Access to records has to be separately agreed (data protection no doubt) and I think doctors can provide it or not as they wish. So you probably have it if you sign up for the “appointments etc”.
 
sphexx said:
Maybe your GP doesn’t have a website? Mine does, and gives instructions how to access your Record. they use SystmOnline (which I think many do), for which there is also a good app called AirMid (on iOS at least).


I just assumed all you fit and healthy people who haven’t needed a doctor in 20+ years would have been donating blood every year!
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I wouldn't have thought giving blood before or after a workout would be ideal. We used to give blood at work, the lorry used to park up by the medical. But for some reason that stopped.
 
nilagin said:
I wouldn't have thought giving blood before or after a workout would be ideal. We used to give blood at work, the lorry used to park up by the medical. But for some reason that stopped.
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Perhaps now is a good time to plan restart it? Probably not during the pandemic. :)
 
sphexx said:
Let me put it kindly ... my guess, and it’s only a guess, is that most people here have access to the internet :(.

Access to online records is different, I don’t know how many GPs allow that but if not you can request a copy of any letter a hospital sends to the GP.
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I would agree that most folk here have internet but I personally know seven folk who don't............my Mum and and some of her friends, allin their 80's & 90's. They are too frightened of being scammed so the family have withdrawn their broadband.
 
admirable said:
I would agree that most folk here have internet but I personally know seven folk who don't............my Mum and and some of her friends, allin their 80's & 90's. They are too frightened of being scammed so the family have withdrawn their broadband.
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My father in law ( I think he's about 75) really ought to be kept off the internet, I swear he'll break it one day and no one will be able to use it. ;)
 
nilagin said:
My father in law ( I think he's about 75) really ought to be kept off the internet, I swear he'll break it one day and no one will be able to use it. ;)
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Can you persuade him to use Facebook & WhatsApp please for the good of humanity :).
 
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sphexx said:
Can you persuade him to use Facebook & WhatsApp please for the good of humanity :).
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Facebook is an easy means of keeping in touch of old workmates for me as well as finding out what the race teams I follow are upto. WhatsApp I use to keep in touch with my eldest son and my sister. They do have good uses.
My father in law doesn't do things by half, I don't think he would know how, he will break all of it. :)
My eldest son was always having to go round to sort something out for him, he could screw up a printer, just by clicking on print on his computer. My eldest son moved away, so my youngest son would have to try to sort things out for him, a couple of years ago, the in laws moved, just around the corner to the father in law, so he has got the job back again of sorting out his phone, PC, laptop, tablet and printer.
I've been saying for years that they should just take them away from him and ban him from using such things. Thankfully I don't think he has cottoned onto the fact that he has a Smart TV, although I am surprised he hasn't managed to b****r the TV up somehow.
 
nilagin said:
Thankfully I don't think he has cottoned onto the fact that he has a Smart TV, although I am surprised he hasn't managed to b****r the TV up somehow.
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My bold.
Be careful what you say around Smart devices — remember the Dave Allen sketch! :).
 
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