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I was driving back from Preston this morning on the M6, the weather was awful, really chucking it down, J27 to J26 is about 5 miles, all down hill.

I pulled out to overtake a 44 tonne artic, as I got about 1/3 of the way past him I noticed a car in front of him, he was 3 feet from it at 55 mph:eek:

I braked, pulled back and flashed him out to overtake which he eventually did but not before he'd scared a young girl 1/2 to death, he was just ****ed off with her because she was driving slower than he wanted her to go

Drivers like this need a good :bat:, if she'd have touched her brakes he'd have hit her then god knows what would have happened.

I took the registration of the truck and the name of the company but so far I haven't done anything about it , at the time I was bloody livid
 
well , if it was me i would report him , too many people do nothing , i am one for doing whatever i think is right , the HGV driver being a 'professional' driver should have known better :bang:
 
wack61 said:
I was driving back from Preston this morning on the M6, the weather was awful, really chucking it down, J27 to J26 is about 5 miles, all down hill.

I pulled out to overtake a 44 tonne artic, as I got about 1/3 of the way past him I noticed a car in front of him, he was 3 feet from it at 55 mph:eek:

I braked, pulled back and flashed him out to overtake which he eventually did but not before he'd scared a young girl 1/2 to death, he was just ****ed off with her because she was driving slower than he wanted her to go

Drivers like this need a good :bat:, if she'd have touched her brakes he'd have hit her then god knows what would have happened.

I took the registration of the truck and the name of the company but so far I haven't done anything about it , at the time I was bloody livid
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i drive from jnct 29 to either the m58 turn off or the m62 junction every morning and i know what you mean about trucks driving up peoples arses, i tried driving at 56mph for a few days to see what effect it had on my fuel economy, imho not enough to warrant the danger and some of the treatment you get if you want to drive at that sort of speed, truckers tailgate you and fence you in for waht feels like an eternity, drivers brake test you coming onto and off the motorway. basically i feel much safer going faster.

no excuse for sitting 3ft from someones bumper though, truck or not
 
I saw another one this morning near Weymouth running someone off the road as he changed lanes on a roundabout. I think everyone should report these things, but I guess you calm down once home and try to forget about it.:bang:

Raining on the M6 already? Come down ere, we havent had rain for ages!:lol:
 
i was driving a 44 tonne truck along the m20 at 55 mph ,,on the speed limiter ,,i couldnt go any faster ,when i came up behind a penis head in a car doing 53 mph ,,,when i pulled over into the middle lane to overtake , the knob put his foot down and pulled away from me ,so back into lane one i went ,only to catch the **** up again a few miles along ,so out i went again into the middle lane to get past only for it to pull away from me again so back in i went ,,,,and then it happened for a third time before the ****** left the motorway ,,,bloody car drivers want to wake up ( oh but i forgot you are all expert drivers )
 
donutagain said:
i was driving a 44 tonne truck along the m20 at 55 mph ,,on the speed limiter ,,i couldnt go any faster ,when i came up behind a penis head in a car doing 53 mph ,,,when i pulled over into the middle lane to overtake , the knob put his foot down and pulled away from me ,so back into lane one i went ,only to catch the **** up again a few miles along ,so out i went again into the middle lane to get past only for it to pull away from me again so back in i went ,,,,and then it happened for a third time before the ****** left the motorway ,,,bloody car drivers want to wake up ( oh but i forgot you are all expert drivers )
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If not in a hurry, I set my cruise control for 56mph but the speedo must be slightly out, as trucks tend to overtake me. I always slow a little so they can get passed me quicker and flash them to let them back in. 90% of them always give a right/left flash of the indicators as a thank you.
 
nilagin said:
If not in a hurry, I set my cruise control for 56mph but the speedo must be slightly out, as trucks tend to overtake me. I always slow a little so they can get passed me quicker and flash them to let them back in. 90% of them always give a right/left flash of the indicators as a thank you.
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your speedo is most likely reading around 10% under , so in reality you are only doing around 50 mph , as HGV's have calibrated speedos / tachos / limiters , i am not surprised they are passing you , at least you appear to be sensible in letting them get past you asap :thumbs:
 
donutagain said:
i was driving a 44 tonne truck along the m20 at 55 mph ,,on the speed limiter ,,i couldnt go any faster ,when i came up behind a penis head in a car doing 53 mph ,,,when i pulled over into the middle lane to overtake , the knob put his foot down and pulled away from me ,so back into lane one i went ,only to catch the **** up again a few miles along ,so out i went again into the middle lane to get past only for it to pull away from me again so back in i went ,,,,and then it happened for a third time before the ****** left the motorway ,,,bloody car drivers want to wake up ( oh but i forgot you are all expert drivers )
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So are all articulated lorries limited to 55 ? I had to do over 70 last week to overtake one, if that is the case do some lorry drivers disconnect the limiters?.

This is not the first time I have come across speeding lorry drivers but this one certainly was the fastest!.
 
I see truly awful driving every sodding day.

I'm not kidding when I say at least 40% of people need their licence taken off them.

Its not limited to motorways and highways to, manouvering round car parks is a simple task and part of the driving test. Why then can so many people not do it ?
 
donutagain said:
i was driving a 44 tonne truck along the m20 at 55 mph ,,on the speed limiter ,,i couldnt go any faster ,when i came up behind a penis head in a car doing 53 mph ,,,when i pulled over into the middle lane to overtake , the knob put his foot down and pulled away from me ,so back into lane one i went ,only to catch the **** up again a few miles along ,so out i went again into the middle lane to get past only for it to pull away from me again so back in i went ,,,,and then it happened for a third time before the ****** left the motorway ,,,bloody car drivers want to wake up ( oh but i forgot you are all expert drivers )
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what he said
drive a mile in my shoes experts :cuckoo:
i sit there at my crappy govt limited speed getting bored until one of you super drivers does something silly and then my job changes, i then have to decide how best to minimise the carnage you have created because you misread your mail, got your hair straighteners caught, decided that texting at 80 in a blizzard etc etc was acceptable.

no arguments
if you are a HGV driver in this country then you are good or you don't do it long.
you richards in your cars missing junctions and thinking that you can behave how you like are the problem.

GET OVER YOURSELVES and if you want to be proactive make sure that this " poor ickle girl" has the correct confidence and experience before subjecting her to such a dangerous journey.


seriously 30 million cars on the road, 2 million uninsured, 1 million new/ inexperienced drivers every year.
and the lorry driver is a c*nt, really you can only lose sooo much speed before you start going backwards.
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whatever gets you through the day you darling people


oh and that camera body or pint of milk that was late and caused you to start a thread here blaming bad service........
it was in a pile up on the M1 because you think your Nigel Mansell.

yours sincerely

a transport manager :nono:
 
Can we just agree there are good and bad drivers regardless of the vehicle? This forum rage aint good for my blood pressure.
 
andrew748 said:
yours sincerely

a transport manager :nono:
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Hello Mr Transport Manager , not being funny , but , do you get complaints about your drivers at all / or never , just curious :)
 
Monday afternoon driving home on the M25 the traffic started to build up and slow. I normally cruise sedately with the lorries in the slow lane. But this particular day I found myself and the lorries having to move into the middle lane. The reason, an idiot driving along at less than 40mph whilst talking on his mobile, totally oblivious to the congestion he was causing around him.
 
paulyoung666 said:
Hello Mr Transport Manager , not being funny , but , do you get complaints about your drivers at all / or never , just curious :)
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rarely, i am very very strict, you don't leave my yard without doing handing in a daily check sheet and me checking your load security.
I also run the weighbridge so if the driver gets done for over weight i get done also.
I field all complaints and i am proud to say that we had one in the last 6 months and that was me :nuts: :bang::bang:
unless you work in proper transport, you really have no idea.

VOSA can shut my whole company down not just my depot.

do you do a daily vehicle check Paul?
 
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nilagin said:
Monday afternoon driving home on the M25 the traffic started to build up and slow. I normally cruise sedately with the lorries in the slow lane. But this particular day I found myself and the lorries having to move into the middle lane. The reason, an idiot driving along at less than 40mph whilst talking on his mobile, totally oblivious to the congestion he was causing around him.
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should have been horsewhipped at the side of the road :razz:
 
nilagin said:
Monday afternoon driving home on the M25 the traffic started to build up and slow. I normally cruise sedately with the lorries in the slow lane. But this particular day I found myself and the lorries having to move into the middle lane. The reason, an idiot driving along at less than 40mph whilst talking on his mobile, totally oblivious to the congestion he was causing around him.
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It is without doubt that talking on a mobile at the wheel is a major and dangerous distraction, you can always tell they are on the phone because their driving is either slow or their speed is not constant.
 
show me a perfect truck driver or a perfect car driver and i'll show you a pink spotted duck billed platypus

unless you live on an island by yourself its impossible to be a perfect driver in the uk nowadays. you need an IQ of 300 and about 20 pairs of eyes in your head.
 
andrew748 said:
rarely, i am very very strict, you don't leave my yard without doing handing in a daily check sheet and me checking your load security.
I also run the weighbridge so it the driver gets done for over weight i get done also.
I field all complaints and i am proud to say that we had one in the last 6 months and that was me :nuts: :bang::bang:
unless you work in proper transport, you really have no idea.

VOSA can shut my whole company down not just my depot.

do you do a daily vehicle check Paul?
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as a private car driver i like to think i keep an eye out for problems , i will fully admit i didnt used to make sure my brake lights worked until i had an issue with a mondeo , now i am anal about making sure my brake lights work , but no , i dont check my car everyday for every issue it may have , i :clap: your thouroughness and i would expect nothing less of a Professional who holds a CPC relating to his employment :)
 
i used to giggle when i drove down the M1

oop north the driving is very good, but the nearer you get to London the worse it gets.

it's really simple, trucks are like a slow relative, they get there in the end but it takes a while.
now add 60mph to the mix.
so bear that in mind when you dash into the exit lane and slam on the anchors

ok who's up for the "foreign truckers watching dvd porn with their feet on the dash convo"?
 
paulyoung666 said:
as a private car driver i like to think i keep an eye out for problems , i will fully admit i didnt used to make sure my brake lights worked until i had an issue with a mondeo , now i am anal about making sure my brake lights work , but no , i dont check my car everyday for every issue it may have , i :clap: your thouroughness and i would expect nothing less of a Professional who holds a CPC relating to his employment :)
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the cpc is a ticket of gold and must be treated as such, it makes the company and me and my assets personally liable for any mis-haps.

ftr my depot has had a 100% clear on FTA inspections since i have taken over.

it's record that we will retain while i'm there. :thumbs:
 
Galaxy66 said:
So are all articulated lorries limited to 55 ? I had to do over 70 last week to overtake one, if that is the case do some lorry drivers disconnect the limiters?.

This is not the first time I have come across speeding lorry drivers but this one certainly was the fastest!.
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Well I was hoping Andrew was going to answer my question but I have had a quick google and it seems it is not restricted to Artic's now, I can only assume he had the limiter disconnected, it was not a foreign rig.
 
Galaxy66 said:
Well I was hoping Andrew was going to answer my question but I have had a quick google and it seems it is not restricted to Artic's now, I can only assume he had the limiter disconnected, it was not a foreign rig.
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Sorry i missed this

the EC legislation is available
I'd start there and work your way through, it's about to effect van drivers too :lol:

the UK and the EC (depending on usage) vehicles over 3.5 tonnes are limited to 56mph/100KM

it's not hard to disable the limiter, it is stupid to.
but i have had to sack drivers from the EU because other parts of Europe are flexible about driver hours.
the UK is not and gladly so.
 
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i drive on the motorway everyday of the week. Nightmare. a large collection of idiots from lorry drivers who just indicate once and pull out(mirror technology not stretched as far as mirrors that can show you the side of the lorry yet?) to drivers doing 80mph while 9" from the car in front. its all there!
 
andrew748 said:
GET OVER YOURSELVES and if you want to be proactive make sure that this " poor ickle girl" has the correct confidence and experience before subjecting her to such a dangerous journey.
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She'd have been fine without 44 tonnes of artic 3 feet from her arse, there are bad drivers everywhere but i've seen the carnage an artic causes when it drives through the barriers, he should have known better, after all he is supposed to be a professional:shrug:

I read a staggering statistic on the Ncap website, 42,000 road fatalities a year across europe alone.

perhaps if videos like this were shown to new drivers we'd all take things a bit easier, don't click this if you're of a nervous disposition as it's very shocking but it does demonstrate how quickly it all goes wrong when an artic is involved :(

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=2535221832416436235#docid=-6068738803797726093
 
i hate other drivers. I always see other drivers as idiots no matter who they are or what they are driving. always expect them to do the most retarded thing.

I was driving to York from Newcastle earlier on the A19. At 'boro, its 3 lanes. some tool in a mondeo joined the road, left his indicator on and just threw himself into the far lane right in front of me, paying to respect to my breaking zones or anything. Its hardly the safest thing to do at 70-80 mph. THATS how accidents are caused. Not speed!

Wack, just watched that video. any ideas what caused the swerve? blowout maybe? The results are tragic :(
 
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andrew748 said:
Sorry i missed this

the EC legislation is available
I'd start there and work your way through, it's about to effect van drivers too :lol:

the UK and the EC (depending on usage) vehicles over 3.5 tonnes are limited to 56mph/100KM

it's not hard to disable the limiter, it is stupid to.
but i have had to sack drivers from the EU because other parts of Europe are flexible about driver hours.
the UK is not and gladly so.
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Van drivers are already affected. A workmate received a fine for speeding in his Transit van on a dual carriageway at 60mph in a 70mph zone. None of us at work were aware of such legislation.
Mind you, as I posted in another thread, we have a bloke at work who was unaware we now have a national speed limit.
 
andrew748 said:
Sorry i missed this

the EC legislation is available

the UK and the EC (depending on usage) vehicles over 3.5 tonnes are limited to 56mph.

it's not hard to disable the limiter, it is stupid to.
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Cheers Andrew, I was beginning to think I was on your ignore list:D

This rig was carrying cargo and thundering along at what must have been a speed approaching 70 mph.

I have read of unscrupulous employers placing pressure on their drivers to meet deadlines and in this present economic climate maybe some are prepared to take the risk rather than lose their job, however I expect if they were caught they would lose their job in any case as the employer would deny any knowledge of it.
 
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matty said:
i drive on the motorway everyday of the week. Nightmare. a large collection of idiots from lorry drivers who just indicate once and pull out(mirror technology not stretched as far as mirrors that can show you the side of the lorry yet?) to drivers doing 80mph while 9" from the car in front. its all there!
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all mirrors are retrofitted to 2004 vehicles and newer to include wide angle and kerb mirrors as of feb this year.
A direct response to angry relatives of dead cyclists.
I'm not going to accept responsibility for every truck driver, there are good and there are bad.

the bad ones don't last long and there is a certain degree of self preservation required by the car driver.

that sticker that says "if you can't see my mirrors, i can't see you" that's true that is, heed it's warning, we don't feel the crunch but we do hear the screams as we reverse over you.:gag:

Is saving 5 minutes off your journey worth cutting up the lorry with a dodgy looking load.

you're not stupid people and i know this was a general rant, it was just that too many people decided that lorrys were the problem and it just isn't so.
I hope we get like the french and ban hgv loads over the weekend.
the you'll have no-one else to blame for being a crap driver :p

other threads i should be banned from are:

despatch riders are mental (only did it for 3 years)
anything coal related (still doing it :))
estate agent threads (scum scum scum scum scum and the coke is sooooo expensive).
camera grips :nuts::razz::bang:

:D;)
 
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nilagin said:
Van drivers are already affected. A workmate received a fine for speeding in his Transit van on a dual carriageway at 60mph in a 70mph zone. None of us at work were aware of such legislation.
Mind you, as I posted in another thread, we have a bloke at work who was unaware we now have a national speed limit.
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"We now have a national speed limit" - just how old is he? :lol:
 
Galaxy66 said:
Cheers Andrew, I was beginning to think I was on your ignore list:D

This rig was carrying cargo and thundering along at what must have been a speed approaching 70 mph.

I have read of unscrupulous employers placing pressure on their drivers to meet deadlines and in this present economic climate maybe some are prepared to take the risk rather than lose their job, however I expect if they were caught they would lose their job in any case as the employer would deny any knowledge of it.
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aww i have no-one on ignore
I hear you and i'm currently suspended from work for calling my AM on a driver hour issue.
If they continue to push the point then i will be looking for a new job and maybe a spot of whistle blowing will be in order.

we all want cheap goods, London hates lorries but does demand cheap milk.
costs are spiralling and wages are frozen.
it's an interesting job for sure :D
 
Ahh, you guys don't know anything, a school bus from a secondary school pulls up in a small village where a Primary school was just letting out, and I slowed down as the corner was quite blind ahead and i'd rather not risk it, yet a Clio doing 50 in a 30 comes zooming past us both!
 
Joe T said:
"We now have a national speed limit" - just how old is he? :lol:
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He's in his 60's. He also filled the companies brand new deisel S Max with petrol. He didn't think people drove diesels anymore.:thinking::lol: Thankfully my mate who was with him realised what he'd done and persuaded him not to try to start it.
 
So my colleague was driving home in his van one day last week, and a nut in a BM tried to cut him up, well he wasn't having any of that and made it impossible for the BM to barge his way in.
Frantic hand gestures ensued for the next mile or so but eventually they went their separate ways.
Anyway, on Friday, said offending BM driver must have noted the phone number (the vans are sign written) and placed a call to our office, speaking to the MD, he said he was nearly run off the road by one of our vans, the driver was using his phone, driving in a +1 lane and drinking export lager out of a tin......:lol:
The MD told him to **** off.
He doesn't drink, and the van is hands free.......and apart from that.....it was his son :lol:

I can't believe there are nutters out there that completely lose their mind with RRage, and then try to get somebody sacked 3 days after the event, for not letting them in to a poxy traffic queue.....mental..
 
ive just had an experience of awful driving.

i have just been out to the petrol station to fill a jerry can for my dad. Was coming back down my road (country road, so 60mph although it is straight with good view), I indicated left, and started to brake, as normal. just as i was getting to about 20mph and about to turn into our drive, the pillock of a taxi driver behind me flashed on his full beam??!!?

i would love to know what his problem was!!
 
I drove a 44 tonne artic up to Irvine and Glasgow today, awful weather, yet tossers in cars were driving without lights on at 45 in the inside lane.

Get my drift?
 
nilagin said:
Van drivers are already affected. A workmate received a fine for speeding in his Transit van on a dual carriageway at 60mph in a 70mph zone. None of us at work were aware of such legislation.
Mind you, as I posted in another thread, we have a bloke at work who was unaware we now have a national speed limit.
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If I'm right your speed limit depends on the type of vehicle the type of load and the view out the back. A van with an external load should drive no faster than 50, a van with no (or blanked out) rear windows is also restricted to 50. My work van is going in for a service on Monday and to have a limiter fitted, it falls into the no rear windows 50mph bracket so I'm amazed to hear the limiter is to be set at 70mph.
 
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