I need some help with Spyder2express?

[Carl911]

I have just bought Spyder2express and run the calibration.
The results look fine on my monitor.
I set the colour profiles to the new spyder2express and when I reboot my computer it even tells me that spyder2express is my default etc. so all looks good.
When I send a photo to my Canon ip4600 it looks somewhat darker and less vibrant.
If a colour has an orange tinge on screen it looks more brown on the print.
Is there something I am doing wrong here or are there more adjustments I need to make to the Canon Printer.
Its really frustrating the amount of ink & paper I am wasting because my prints do not match what i see on screen.
Im scratching my head here so help is appreciated.

Carl

 

[scraggs]

Was everything printing fine before you calibrated ?

Canon printers have a bad habit of needing the colour intensity turning down in the printer driver settings, usually by about -5 to -8 see if that helps, also colour mode to linear tone if you have that option on the 4600.

 

[Carl911]

Was everything printing fine before you calibrated ?

Canon printers have a bad habit of needing the colour intensity turning down in the printer driver settings, usually by about -5 to -8 see if that helps, also colour mode to linear tone if you have that option on the 4600.

It has always printed this way hence why I bought the spyder to hopefully calibrate and get better results.
I dont think the calibration has made it worse but it has not really improved it either.
The on screen is spot on. I just need to get the same colour to my printer.
In most cases I find my prints always look darker once printed.
In most cases I have had to over expose the on screen picture to achieve a better print but this just does not seem right plus its a costly practice to get right.

 

[scraggs]

Sounds a familiar story, it was the same reason I bought my Ione2 but till ended up with dark shots.
Like I said try the above alterations to the printer driver which should sort out the problem.

 

[Craikeybaby]

Are you using ICC profiles that tie in with your printer, ink and paper? Or have you calibrated your printer? If neither only half of your workflow is colour managed.

 

[Carl911]

Are you using ICC profiles that tie in with your printer, ink and paper? Or have you calibrated your printer? If neither only half of your workflow is colour managed.

Initially I run the Spyder2express calibration which creates an ICC profile at the end from which your printer is meant to match as far as Im aware.
I set my graphics card & Printer etc all to use the new icc profile as default just to make sure.
I followed various online guides such as the 'Red River Paper profiles' for my particular printer (Canon ip4600).
The more changes I made in fact the worse the final print seem to become as in the colours just looked dark and the picture lacked clarity & detail.
In the end from trial & error I set the printer calibration from Adobe CS3 using the file-print-settings and page setup functions.
They are now as follows:-
Media typehoto Paper Pro 2
Print Quality: Cusrom set at best quality 1
Color/Intensity:Manual (Cyan +4, Magenta -2, Yellow 0, Brightness-Normal, Intensity -3, Contrast 0)
I left Matching as 'Driver Matching'
My Colour management now reads:
Document: profile-adobe RGB(1998)
Color Handling: Printer handles colors
Printer Profile-Working RGB-SRGB IEC61966-2.1
Rendering Intent-Relative Colormetric
Proof Setup-Working CMYK
Black point Comp.-(this box left blank)

All this seems to be giving me a near spot on print match to my screen now.
This was by sheer trial & error as I have no idea what half of that means.

Perhaps someone can shed some light on my chosen settings and understand what I have done.

I should also mention I use both Canon Photo Paper Pro (Super High Gloss) & Epson Premium Glossy Photo/Epson Ultra Glossy Photo Paper. all three of these papers give me virtually identical print quality finish on the same settings.

Carl

 

[Craikeybaby]

The profile from the Spyder is only for the screen. The printer profile needs to be one that matches the ink, printer and paper. If you are using all genuine Canon supplies it should just be a case of selecting the options in the print driver. Or getting custom profiles made up if you want it tailored to your individual printer.