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Steve Smith said:
Most of my cameras/lenses have aperture rings and ground glass viewing screens and most of them don't use batteries. No need to miss these things if you don't want to.


Steve.
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I'm tempted to post again, but I get a feeling that as a fusty & crusty, if I do, then the sharks will turn on me for being an anti techno luddite.
 
The smell of CibaChrome. That'll get the youngsters thinking :)
Matt
 
Chemicals. Although one set somehow got mucked up and the smell was apalling.
 
My slide projector always made the same sound when advancing slides. Press the forward button on the Rollei wired remote "click ticka-licka tick-tock" to get to the next slide in the magazine. Very repetitive. Which is how I remember it all these years later.
 
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LCPete said:
I know what you mean but my own photos from the film era were never that good to be honest
I had a good camera a Canon A1 but never really got into it
I just wasn't learning from my mistakes
When I got the 350D I was able to make the connection as it were from changing things like aperture and settings and seeing straight away how they affected the final result
It was a revalation to me and I really got into photography after that
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I was totally the reverse. I am not old enough for growing up with film and got into photography in the digital era, but it wasn't until I slowed down and got into film that I truly made the connection which improved my digital and processing by no end.
 
ianp5a said:
My slide projector always made the same sound when advancing slides. Press the forward button on the Rollei wired remote "click ticka-licka tick-tock" to get to the next slide in the magazine. Very repetitive. Which is how I remember it all these years later.
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Don't ya just love it...."click ticka-licka tick-tock"
 
Like so many others I miss a decent ground glass screen with split image for focusing, all my Pentax lenses still have aperture rings, and the majority of my Nikon ones do too, fly buy wire is fine for the P&S shots.
 
I miss photography: Far too many people thinking it happens on a computer these days, or that they can fix photographic errors in post production. These people are not photographers. They're not even talented post production artists either because all they do is move sliders around. They may as well be selecting filters in instagram.
 
In the old days we didn't have internet trolls going round sneering at other people.
 
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I know... so many people unaware of how stupid they were. Good job we have the internet now.
 
You've expressed your opinion, I've expressed mine.

Move along.
 
Pookeyhead said:
I miss photography: Far too many people thinking it happens on a computer these days, or that they can fix photographic errors in post production. These people are not photographers. They're not even talented post production artists either because all they do is move sliders around. They may as well be selecting filters in instagram.
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I'm generally happy with how things have moved on and unless you're brewing your own emulsions and determining the appropriate chemistry to develop the image, you're probably not a photographer either in the eyes of the pioneers.

While I agree fully with trying to get the shot right at the time of shooting, I don't think photography is some form of sacrosanct art form; it has always been a combination of 'art' and 'technology' - we've seen rapid developments in film emulsions during our lifetimes and then a shift from R&D into photographic emulsions towards sensors and Computer Software and image processing algorithms. Today, moving sliders around is perhaps akin to selecting a particular film for a shot, the only difference being it has stepped further down the workflow, and that's because doing so offers more flexibility.

If they ever perfect the Lytro stuff, even focussing will move down the workflow and be a 'post' process perhaps, hell, one day, you'll probably be able to throw a holographic mapping device in the air, capture the entire 3D space and go home and compose, focus and process your 2D images in 'post'.
 
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I expect in not too many years, exposure and composition will largely be post too. Point the camera in the general direction of the scene, massive resolution will let you crop to what you want and still print big and the massive d-range of future sensors will mean that its almost impossible to block out the shadows or blow the highlights.
 
One thing I don't miss is flat-bed glazing machines, oyster-shell markings, pits and fleck-marks ! - some darkroom tools are best consigned to the dustbin !
 
Here's another vote for split screen focussing. All my pictures were in focus then, the sun always shone, beer was free....
 
I also miss the feeling of proper metal build quality. I don't like all these plastics. Sure I know they are very strong, just doesn't have the same tactile feel.
 
Pookeyhead said:
I miss photography: Far too many people thinking it happens on a computer these days, or that they can fix photographic errors in post production. These people are not photographers. They're not even talented post production artists either because all they do is move sliders around. They may as well be selecting filters in instagram.
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Oh dear, more sweeping judgemental generalistions for me to disagree with.

Even back in the film days there were people who seemingly preferred the gear and the process so moving sliders around, as you put it, is nothing new and of course I bet a few of these keyboard warriors are very talented pp artists and I also bet that some are also outstanding photographers.

One thing that will never change is that some folk will always sneer at what others are doing but of course we see this in any and every hobby and the net just makes it easier.
 
woof woof said:
Even back in the film days there were people who seemingly preferred the gear and the process so moving sliders around, as you put it, is nothing new .
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The difference is that today, it's A) Easy and requires zero skill to move sliders around, and B) it's used to cover up photographic incompetence.

I'm still not sure being interested in gear equates to arsing around with processing necessarily. There are many who are gear obsessed today, and don't really do much processing. Today, for many, the processing IS what makes the image, not the photography. You only have to look at all the beginner threads where people are asking how to fix fundamental problems that are photographic in nature, only to receive advice on how to fix it in post instead of how to re-shoot it properly.
 
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Pookeyhead said:
FM2 with MD12.... best sound ever.
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IIRC something very like that was used for the video to Duran Duran's Girls on Film video (though possibly an F3). There was a story that the director had originally planned to use an FE, but the shutter sound was too smooth for the effect he wanted.
 
Musicman said:
IIRC something very like that was used for the video to Duran Duran's Girls on Film video (though possibly an F3). There was a story that the director had originally planned to use an FE, but the shutter sound was too smooth for the effect he wanted.
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Apparently, but having just listened to that again, it doesn't sound like it to me. Far too fast and high in pitch. Beginning to think it's an urban myth. Sounds more like a F3 and MD-4 to me.
 
Pookeyhead said:
Apparently, but having just listened to that again, it doesn't sound like it to me. Far too fast and high in pitch. Beginning to think it's an urban myth. Sounds more like a F3 and MD-4 to me.
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I would imagine the sound was changed to be what they wanted rather than what it actually sounds like.
 
Maybe.... having owned both though, sounds like a MD4 to me. Not that it matters :).. still a crap song LOL
 
Dave in Wales said:
In my case it's the 'lens aperture ring'.....what's yours ?
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Actually, one of the reasons I went to using a Sony A7 with legacy lenses was this. Proper manual focus controls was another, so I don't miss either :)

And I don't find myself missing autofocus or a digital SLR's OVF since I did.

I never used a motor drive with my film cameras (unless you count the one built into the Canon T90) but I do miss the satisfying feel of manual advance mechanism. That said, I can still get that with the film bodies I use with the same lenses as the A7.

I'll tell you what I do miss though, as I don't have access to a darkroom any more - watching a print slowly appear in a dev bath. It's genuinely magical.
 
Musicman said:
I'll tell you what I do miss though, as I don't have access to a darkroom any more - watching a print slowly appear in a dev bath. It's genuinely magical.
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I guess it is possible to simulate the slow appearance of the image with special software. There's probably an app. But part of the excitement could be due to putting work put in beforehand, or uncertainty or even the cost of the materials.
 
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ianp5a said:
I guess it is possible to simulate the slow appearance of the image with special software. But part of the excitement could be due to putting work put in beforehand, or uncertainty or even the cost of the materials.
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Or that smell ;)
 
Pookeyhead said:
Should have processed them yourself then you lightweight :)
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Exactly.... processing film was always part of that days work...what ever time you returned.

They would be ready for contacts and marking up and printing the next day. [/QUOTE]
 
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I miss being able to go into Dixons or Greens and have a chat about Cameras etc. with people who knew their job.
 
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