I know Petrol prices are expensive but......

Canon Bob said:
Probably not a good time to mention that there's no road tax here (it's included in the price of the fuel) :)
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There's no "road tax" in the UK either, not since 1930 something anyway - it's "Vehicle Excise Duty" - so they can ignore all the people (what? government ignoring the people, surely not) complaining that it's not spent on the roads.
cambsno said:
Is fuel expensive???

1l of water at a service station - £1.60 odd - fuel £1.30 odd. Am willing to bet that the process of drilling for oil, converting to petrol and the like must be more complex and expensive that water?
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You would think not, as water doesn't carry a 65% tax on it!
 
Canon Bob said:
Derv is EUR 1.17 / L (£1.00) and unleaded is EUR 1.37 / L (£1.17) over here......if you send me some Jerry Cans, I'll fill them up and send them back.

Bob

Probably not a good time to mention that there's no road tax here (it's included in the price of the fuel) :)
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A bit below the belt that Bob quoting those sort of prices!!! Can't we ban you or something?!!
 
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I put £12.50 in, luckily rounding the figure up, that's increasingly hard to do now ! and got less than a quarter. Just waiting for the next move now to see what happens, it's slowly killing us.....s..l..o..w..l..y
 
Canon Bob said:
Derv is EUR 1.17 / L (£1.00) and unleaded is EUR 1.37 / L (£1.17) over here......if you send me some Jerry Cans, I'll fill them up and send them back.

Bob

Probably not a good time to mention that there's no road tax here (it's included in the price of the fuel) :)
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What is the pothole situation there ? if there is one :suspect:
They have got as many, if not more muslims than we have, so how can they manage to keep them without putting taxes up ?
 
Graham00 said:
What is the pothole situation there ? if there is one :suspect:
They have got as many, if not more muslims than we have, so how can they manage to keep them without putting taxes up ?
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Ooooooops :eek: ..................... ;)
 
Graham00 said:
What, there's a massive welfare cost to pay and it's true :shrug:
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There is .... and I don't disagree :thumbs: ..... unfortunately discussing it seems to upset the masses :cool:
 
I remember driving around devon/cornwall 3 years ago complaining that some places where charging over £1.

One Texaco garage was charging £1.05/litre when another Texaco a mile down the road was charging 97.9p. Said I'd not pay over £1 for petrol.

Its £127.9 here at Morrisons, although Morrisons 15 miles out of town is charging £123.9. Its amazing how fast that £ dial goes up on the pump now :( £62 to fill up, it was £50 before xmas.

Seriously considering getting my mountain bike sorted and cycling the 15 miles to work. It's the 15 miles back up hill that would kill me! I'd have to leave my camera gear at home too :(
 
Canon Bob said:
Derv is EUR 1.17 / L (£1.00) and unleaded is EUR 1.37 / L (£1.17) over here......if you send me some Jerry Cans, I'll fill them up and send them back.

Bob

Probably not a good time to mention that there's no road tax here (it's included in the price of the fuel) :)
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That's all well and good when the French are not striking and you can find a petrol station that has fuel ;)
 
Hard to imagine I was shocked in 1990 to see £1.59 a gallon on a petrol pump :(

It'll just keep going up while we just suck it in and keep filling up, it's a massive tax generator, the government keeps trying to convince us it's all about saving the planet but I'm 100% convinced that if LPG conversions went through the roof the price of the gas would suddenly increase to petrol prices
 
wack61 said:
Hard to imagine I was shocked in 1990 to see £1.59 a gallon on a petrol pump :(

It'll just keep going up while we just suck it in and keep filling up, it's a massive tax generator, the government keeps trying to convince us it's all about saving the planet but I'm 100% convinced that if LPG conversions went through the roof the price of the gas would suddenly increase to petrol prices
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Of course it would,they did say at the startthat at some time in the future they would be taxing LPG for vehicles.
But has anyone else noticed an increase in the smell of frying when cars go past ;)
 
wack61 said:
Hard to imagine I was shocked in 1990 to see £1.59 a gallon on a petrol pump :(

It'll just keep going up while we just suck it in and keep filling up, it's a massive tax generator, the government keeps trying to convince us it's all about saving the planet but I'm 100% convinced that if LPG conversions went through the roof the price of the gas would suddenly increase to petrol prices
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About 5 years ago I considered a conversion to LPG but couldn't really justify the savings (if any) Since then the price of LPG has just about doubled ... If we could build a car that only needed fresh air the gov't would still tax us to death to use the car.

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I remember reading about a tree that can be tapped for sap that can be used to run a diesel car. 1 acre of these trees could run and entire farms vehicles for 1 year. Can't remember the name of it though but think its from South America.
 
wack61 said:
LPG -Cheaper fuel
used cooking oil - illegal, car confiscated, walking, even cheaper :D
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?What's illegal about used cooking oil
 
If you're using it as a road fuel it has to have duty paid on it

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Looks like there's an exemption if you use less than 2500L a year but you have to keep records

4.2.1 Exempt producers/users

If you have produced or used less than 2,500 litres of:

* any biofuel, or
* any other fuel substitute or additive

within the last 12 months, and/or expect to produce or use less than 2,500 litres in the next 12 months, you are an exempt producer and do not need to register with us and account for duty. However, there are simple record keeping requirements, which are described in paragraph 4.9.1.

Production includes the manufacture or processing of road fuel, and the setting aside of any product that has not been charged with duty, with the intention of using it as road fuel.

What is the duty rate on cooking oil?

Cooking oil (whether used or unused) which has not been specifically produced or processed as a road fuel, will normally be classed as a fuel substitute. The duty rate will be the same as the sulphur-free diesel rate.

The important question is whether the finished fuel meets the legal definition. If a vegetable oil used as road fuel meets the fiscal definition HMRC will be happy to accept that it is entitled to the duty rate for biodiesel.
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How do I notify HMRC that I am using cooking oil in my vehicle?

If you use cooking oil, and/or produce biodiesel or any other fuel substitute for use in your vehicle you must contact HMRC in order to 'Make Entry'. This is to record details of where the fuel is made (or used) and to register your activity with us. You will receive information on how to record your fuel use and pay the Excise Duty due.

Please note: 'Making Entry' of your premises does not authorise you to produce a particular type of fuel or give approval to your method of production.

http://customs.hmrc.gov.uk/channels...E_PROD1_024771&propertyType=document#P10_1033
 
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