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And wow it was different to the 400d, so much bigger and the hand hold was so much better. but i admit

how do you turn live view on:help:
 
A change in the live view function settings then press the set button.
 
lol thanks, i havn't got one but i went into jessops to play and that with the sigma macro felt lovely
 
Also how does the ISO noise compare with a 30d or 20d
 
Only had mine a fortnight so learning as I go. Can't help with this one I'm afraid.
 
I have to say,

Live view seems such a waste of time ;(

Canon should spend money on developing other features, instead of putting P&S gimmiks on their bodies.

As far as useless features goes, Live view has to be right up there with direct print.

I take it the mirror has to stay up while live view is on? Plenty of time for mr dust float on to the sensor then ( I know it has the anti noise stuff, but that wasnt great on the 400 either)

Come on Canon, put the money somewhere else, like new modes (ISO priority please)
 
WW, live view is a boon for macro shooters or studio work when tethered. Just because it's not useful to you doesn't mean it's not useful for someone else :nono:

400Duser, noise is about a stop better than the 400D and a touch better than the 20/30D.
 
WildWalker said:
Come on Canon, put the money somewhere else, like new modes (ISO priority please)
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How would that work? Surely there would be too many (2) variables, the camera could not decide on what aperture or shutter speed to use!
 
The 1D Mk3 has active ISO it can change the ISO automatically to make sure you get the shutter speed or aperture you have dialled in, is that what you mean ?

I have a Red Kite shot at ISO 2500 that looks liek its at ISO 100 (its a Mk3 though not a 40D so may not be useful)
 
IanC_UK said:
The 1D Mk3 has active ISO it can change the ISO automatically to make sure you get the shutter speed or aperture you have dialled in, is that what you mean ?

I have a Red Kite shot at ISO 2500 that looks liek its at ISO 100 (its a Mk3 though not a 40D so may not be useful)
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Is that different from Auto ISO mode found on most DSLR's?
 
I used a 40D on Tuesday.

Anyone want a kidney?
 
WildWalker said:
I have to say,

Live view seems such a waste of time ;(

Canon should spend money on developing other features, instead of putting P&S gimmiks on their bodies.

As far as useless features goes, Live view has to be right up there with direct print.

I take it the mirror has to stay up while live view is on? Plenty of time for mr dust float on to the sensor then ( I know it has the anti noise stuff, but that wasnt great on the 400 either)

Come on Canon, put the money somewhere else, like new modes (ISO priority please)
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As far as it might be a gimmick (and I cannot say it is because I have not used it yet but macro shooters rave about it as can be seen in this thread) the fact remains that other companies offer it and so it is simply good business sense that Canon will not lag behind in this aspect and lose sales to competitor x.

I am quite sure that it will work the same as others in which case the mirror does not need to stay up but they simply built a smaller secondary sensor into the prism roof - the top part in front of the viewfinder.:thumbs:
 
You'd by surprised at how many people come into Jessops looking for a digital SLR, having no clue about anything.
I get the camera out, turn it on, explain the features, hand them the camera and then they try and zoom using the playback zoom buttons, then say, "Oh, how do you zoom?"
So I explain, the zoom is in the lens, and its manual.
Then they hold the camera out in front of them and say, "Wheres the picture? You know, the one before you take a picture that shows you what you're taking a picture of?"

If all cameras had live view (while I think its an unnecessary feature, but appreciate studio/macro shooters) it will make my job a lot easier :p
 
I couldn't see where I'd use live view until we went to Gatorland and my youngest decided to feed the aligators.

You were only allowed in the enclosure one at a time so I was left behind a 6 foot or more chain link fence.

Live view allowed me to hold the camera over the fence and get the shot.


ISO - the 40D is so good at high ISO's. I'm impressed.
I think this was at ISO1600
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foodpoison said:
You'd by surprised at how many people come into Jessops looking for a digital SLR, having no clue about anything.
I get the camera out, turn it on, explain the features, hand them the camera and then they try and zoom using the playback zoom buttons, then say, "Oh, how do you zoom?"
So I explain, the zoom is in the lens, and its manual.
Then they hold the camera out in front of them and say, "Wheres the picture? You know, the one before you take a picture that shows you what you're taking a picture of?"

If all cameras had live view (while I think its an unnecessary feature, but appreciate studio/macro shooters) it will make my job a lot easier :p
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I feel your pain in this but then I also feel that people who ask these questions should not be allowed within half a mile from any decent camera shop
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Byker28i said:
I couldn't see where I'd use live view until we went to Gatorland and my youngest decided to feed the aligators.

You were only allowed in the enclosure one at a time so I was left behind a 6 foot or more chain link fence.

Live view allowed me to hold the camera over the fence and get the shot.


ISO - the 40D is so good at high ISO's. I'm impressed.
I think this was at ISO1600
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Very nice shot! Pity I cannot see your EXIF data
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Noise is NOT an issue on the 40D it might be marginally better than the 20D, but that was pretty good.
 
Byker28i said:
Live view allowed me to hold the camera over the fence and get the shot.
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For truth. I was using it to take photos of burlesque dancers. Not being at the event in any official capacity (well, I was, but not official *photographic* capacity), I didn't want to get in the way down the front, so contented myself with snapping away from the back. Live view let me compose and shoot over people's heads :)
 
Just found a copy of the gator shot

So hand held above my head, over a chain link fence, trying to watch the screen and the gators moving towards my youngest with pieces of chicken in his hand...
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Not necessarily my best ever shot, but an interesting piece of family history
 
im hoping to play with a 40d very soon
 
the 40d does feel better than the 400d,

btw stupid question how to you get exif data of photos,

please help

thanks

Mark
 
pxl8 said:
WW, live view is a boon for macro shooters or studio work when tethered. Just because it's not useful to you doesn't mean it's not useful for someone else :nono:
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The camera has a viewfinder for looking at stuff, the camera I had before my first DSLR did 'live view' and I never used it seriously, especially for 'studio' work.

The only thing I ever found useful was the 300D came with SW to control it from your PC, so you could do a studio shot, and see it on your pc immediately, nice.

I am not saying no one will (or should) use it, but I feel its a bit up the gimmicky end, and development funds should be better spent.
 
Steveo_Hants said:
How would that work? Surely there would be too many (2) variables, the camera could not decide on what aperture or shutter speed to use!
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Well you could fix the aperture and ISO and let the camera work out the shutter. Or, fix the aperture and shutter and let the camera work out the ISO, niiice.

When I am doing live acts on a stage, I have to change both the ISO and shutter speed, depending on the lighting. If I could fix my shutter to say 1/125 and fix the aperture to say F1.2 then the camera could adjust the ISO to the lowest setting for each shot. That'd be nice (for me of course)

It might also encourage more people to 'not' use flash.

I use a 30D atm, I don't think it does that, but if anyone knows better :).
 
Live view isn't intended to replace the viewfinder or even to be an optionally method of shooting, I suspect you're thinking of someone holding their DSLR at arms length and framing a shot.

Live View offers extended functionality for certain users. Not being one of them you might not appreciate the benefit but that doesn't make it a gimmick. As I said before, being able to use Live View for macro work is a huge step forward as macro focusing is hard at the best of times and being able to zoom in 10x on screen makes life a lot easier for accurate control. A gimmick has no real benefits whereas the 1st gen. of Live View clearly has and future versions will only improve upon and open up new possibilites for the imaginative photographer to exploit.
 
Byker,

both your shots look blurry, exactly what happens when you hold a camera out in front of you intstead of bringing it in to your body for stability.

Don't take that comment personally, but if you want to take snappy arms lenth shots then carry round a cheap P&S with you.

Kudos to the kid by the alligators, no way I would have stood there ;)
 
WildWalker said:
Well you could fix the aperture and ISO and let the camera work out the shutter. Or, fix the aperture and shutter and let the camera work out the ISO, niiice.
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It would have to be 2 modes - so the camera knows what to do when ISO has reached its limit and the exposure is still wrong - change shutter or aperture?

So the modes would be ISO-Tv (Aperture get changed) and ISO-Av (Shutter gets changed) yes?
 
Hi does anyone know how to retrieve exif DATA

thanks

Mark
 
pxl8 said:
It would have to be 2 modes - so the camera knows what to do when ISO has reached its limit and the exposure is still wrong - change shutter or aperture?

So the modes would be ISO-Tv (Aperture get changed) and ISO-Av (Shutter gets changed) yes?
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No, one mode, if the correct exposure can not be achieved, no image is taken, if you use Av and the camera can not select a suitable aperture (say it needs F32 but your lens only does F22) then the same applies, no picture.

WW
 
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