I hate my 1D II

dazzajl

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No, really I do... and yes I know that's being very sensationalist aaaaaaand yes, I can even hear the voice of Jeremy Clarkson as I type this. It doesn't change the fact that I do hate it. I used it for the first time this evening since september last year. I didn't mean to use it, I just ended up going for a walk and forgot I'd unloaded the car of choices 1, 2 and 3.

So, since I hate the thing so much, the solution is easy right?

...... Wrong! You see it's not that simple (yes I know but I thought I just carry on preaching in the style of JC)

I do hate the thing, I really do but I also love it. The trouble with it is that it's just too good.... and at the same time it's not good enough. I'd forgotten just how great a machine it is to use, having become used to a 5D. The feel of all the switches and buttons is sublime, the sensitivity of the shutter button is perfect. The focusing is sooooo sweet and the sound of the shutter....... ahhhhh, it makes the 5D sound like semolina being fired at a wall in slow motion. It's just so precise in every way, a tool crafted to perfection.

But in terms of image quality, the 5D beats it in just about every way measurable and a few that aren't.

You see in the days when photography was generally practiced without a safety net, you could take a very good camera and very bad one and get the same result. As long as the film and the lens were the same, you could make up the difference with some good work.

In the digi age, the better camera will always be the better camera and that's that. The 5D will always produce a better quality file than the mk II and no amount of loving the feel of a button or sound of a shutter will ever change that.

So, what does the future hold for my poor old 1? I've no idea, other than to say it's in trouble for reminding me why I love it so much, when I can't justify using it over the 5.

It did get a small workout, just to blow the cobwebs out.

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.....and why do people go out on these golf courses in the worst weather yet there was no-one there on the best evening of the year.... by far.?:shrug:
 
Id love to see your 5D shots....because the 1D ones are great :)

I however....adore my 1D MKII :D
 
>Id love to see your 5D shots....because the 1D ones are great
Ta very much.:) The thing is that anything looks great at 600pixels. But what if you want to make a 20x30 print. One from a 5D file is going to look better than one from the 1.

In terms of providing files to clients, I feel like I have a duty to hand over the highest quality images I can.


>I however....adore my 1D MKII
Then for god's sake, don't buy a 5D. ;):lol:
 
I love my 1ds MKII as well but in certain situations the 5D beats it too. I so look forward to seeing what the 5D replacement will be - 20mp and superb low-light capability? ;)
 
I'm still trying to work out how you can have a 1d as your 4th choice. I need to get a better paying job...

I'm off to play golf now after seeing that pic!
 
I've got a 5D, care to let me have your IDs so I can try it? It would be unfair not to compare them you know :thumbs:
 
So, since I hate the thing so much, the solution is easy right?

I can't help but agree with you mate:thumbs: From where I'm standing I can only see one answer.....................I'll pop up at the weekend and collect it shall I?:naughty:
 
I'm still trying to work out how you can have a 1d as your 4th choice. I need to get a better paying job...
Well choice 1 would have been the 5D, number two is my p&s pany and in 3rd, is my lovely plastic clack. All three could be bought for less than the 1 is worth. ;)

I've got a 5D, care to let me have your IDs so I can try it? It would be unfair not to compare them you know :thumbs:
Well it's only a mkII, not an S but you're welcome to come and take it out for a drive. It'd like that.

I can't help but agree with you mate:thumbs: From where I'm standing I can only see one answer.....................I'll pop up at the weekend and collect it shall I?:naughty:
Well I can't help but wonder which camera would produce the better file, the 1 or the 30? I know the 1 will focus quicker, shoot more frames and be far more lethal as blunt weapon but just on file IQ...... :shrug:

..... but do bring it up, if there's any time left over between :beer:, we'll discuss it. :lol:
 
..... but do bring it up, if there's any time left over between :beer:, we'll discuss it. :lol:

Better still....I'll leave them at home and we'll just:beer:
 
But in terms of image quality, the 5D beats it in just about every way measurable and a few that aren't.

Come to a football match with me one night..A dank dark poorly lit ground.. I will use my mkII and you use the 5D .. lets see your 5d churn out better files...not gonna happen :)
 
not gonna happen

That so reminds me of a tutor years ago that caught alot of fish in our class telling folks his OM2 could bracket shots quicker than an EOS1 (the original one that is).

All the eos owners stood up in unison claiming that the eos would bracket at 6FPS or whatever and his old manual oly could never keep up, it had to be wound on for gods sake.

So, tutor man says ok..... 3, 2, 1 GO!

While EOS boy is scrolling through menus to get to the AEB settings......

Click goes the oly, wind wind... twist aperture ring. click, wind wind, twist.

Suffice to say that by the time the EOS was set, the oly had done.

I'd pitch the 5D against you shooting with a 1 and be happy to match whatever you get.....and then the file would be bigger, the noise less and the colours a tad better too.

I don't like it any more than you do but that's the way it is.
 
Nice diatribe Daz ... :D


Lovin' the second image too ... :thumbs: ... says quality to me ... ;)




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LOL Nice shots Daz.

If thine eye offends thee... :lol:
 
I'm not too knowledgeable on the difference between the 5D and the 1Dmk2, but can someone summarise this for me, and explain why the 5D is perceived to be better?
 
I'm tempted to go and play golf.....and I HATE golf. Love that second shot.

Goes off to dream of turning out shots like that.....
 
I'm not too knowledgeable on the difference between the 5D and the 1Dmk2, but can someone summarise this for me, and explain why the 5D is perceived to be better?

The 1DMK2 is an 8 megapixel camera with a 1.3 crop sensor.

The 5D is a full frame camera with around 13 megapixels.

They're really two different cameras for two different users or at least two different purposes.

The 1DMK2 is aimed at the sports action photographer with a very fast AF system and capabable of 8.5 frames per second as well as being weather sealed and pretty well bomb proof.

The 5D will appeal to the wedding/studio/landscape photographer with it's larger files. It has a much slower frame rate and not the same build quality as the 1DMK2n.

That's the basic bare bones of it. :)
 
Well it's only a mkII, not an S but you're welcome to come and take it out for a drive. It'd like that.

Wonders how she can get from Manchester to Calne without the boss noticing! lol:exit:
 
thanks for getting me in the mood with your second shot. Went out for a game and only just missed out on shooting an even par round! The power of a good image is amazing!!
 
Wonders how she can get from Manchester to Calne without the boss noticing! lol:exit:

There was a bloke that once used the line "I'm going for a walk, I may be some time". No-one stopped him. :shrug:;)

thanks for getting me in the mood with your second shot. Went out for a game and only just missed out on shooting an even par round! The power of a good image is amazing!!

WOW, has there been any daylight between when the shot was posted and now?:lol:
 
I'd pitch the 5D against you shooting with a 1 and be happy to match whatever you get.....and then the file would be bigger, the noise less and the colours a tad better too.

But in a couple of months time the 5, if I bought one, would be full of dust, have to go back to Canon for a muck out and service, I wouldn't be getting ANY shots to compare, whereas the MkII just gets on with the job in hand ;)
 
I love my 1ds MKII as well but in certain situations the 5D beats it too. I so look forward to seeing what the 5D replacement will be - 20mp and superb low-light capability? ;)

I can understand how the image quality of the 5D would beat that of the 1D MKII but I cant understand how the 5D could possibily beat the 1Ds MKII.

Can you elaborate at all HUN?
 
dazzajl I'll take it off your hands :)

Pete
 
There was a bloke that once used the line "I'm going for a walk, I may be some time". No-one stopped him. :shrug:;)



WOW, has there been any daylight between when the shot was posted and now?:lol:

Sure was here, I'm 8 hours behind on EST!;)
 
I can understand how the image quality of the 5D would beat that of the 1D MKII but I cant understand how the 5D could possibily beat the 1Ds MKII.

Can you elaborate at all HUN?

Put simply, the low light capabilities of the 1Ds MkII do not match up to the 5D. I have tried them against each other and from 400ISO and higher the 5D wins. Noise is rarely that noticeable until about 640ISO on the 5D.
 
Can't comment on the 5D as I've never had the pleasure of using one, but I do know my 1D mkII is one heck of a camera, build quality and weather proofing is amazing, handles like a dream, super quick focus speed, tracking and drive rate when it's needed, produces lovely images 90% of the time straight out of the camera, the other 10% is down to user error in dodgy lighting conditions, but put em through noise ninja and your good to go, sometimes it's big and heavy and a little too "obvious" to carry around, but my 20D does for those occasions. Would I like a 5D ?, of course I would it's full frame and higher res and it would be nice to see what it can do, but for me and my money there were more reasons to buy a 1D mkII then there is to buy a 5D.

Alan
 
Put simply, the low light capabilities of the 1Ds MkII do not match up to the 5D. I have tried them against each other and from 400ISO and higher the 5D wins. Noise is rarely that noticeable until about 640ISO on the 5D.

Thanks HUN. Very interesing to hear that.
 
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