I am after Grain

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Hello all :wave: , yep long time no post but I maybe getting past my no film (no digi either) lack of interest.

I have either Fuji Neopan 400 and new Kodak Tri-X both of which are 400 ISO films. I have used the Neopan 400 before deved it in ID-11 and also Rodinal (1 hour long stand proccess) and it has given me some very nice fairly fine grain images.

BUT now I want GRAIN :)

So dev in Rodinal at normal 1/25 for so long, or make up some Tri-X dev and use that instead or expose the film at ISO 800 and change the dev time accordingly?

Oh and I will be using medium format cameras either 6x6 or 6x7.
 
For grain, use the tri-x in rodinal and increase the agitation, with a corresponding reduction in development time. Tri-z is an old tech fast film and agitation with rodinal gives lots of grain. ITs a classic combination that you can make really grainy if you want to
 
+1 for HP5+ and Rodinal. Gritty. Push it for more grit.

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Tri-z is an old tech fast film and agitation with rodinal gives lots of grain.
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Just for the record, whilst Tri-X does come close to that look, the Tri-X currently available is a vastly different emulsion from the Tri-X of the 50s and 60s. It's still considered the classic photojournalism film, but the characteristics and curves of the emulsion today are very different.
 
True, but it is still an old tech film similar to HP5+. Any of these old style high speed films (especially if pushed to EI1600 or 3200) give this sort of result. I only recommended the Tri-X as Nick already has some, but HP5 would work fine as well
 
I have some Tri-X to experiment with too, but for grain, on 35mm at least go for HP5 shot at 1600-3200 and do it in Rodinal at a higher concentration, 1+25 etc This gives quite nice grain and a boost in contrast.
 
Looking for grain with Neopan 400, look no further than 1:50 Rodinal...
(and it's a grainy picture of grain)

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Admittedly, this is 35mm and LegacyPro 400, but LegacyPro is the same emulsion as Neopan, and it's the grainiest I've got from fresh film shot and developed at box speed.
 
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Have you considered using expired film? Working with LONG expired film can often give you grain & whatnot; altho you do have to consider overexposing when shooting to compensate for potential degradation. These can be picked up at varying prices in places like eBay.

I'm currently experimenting with it myself in the following thread & I shall post my results as soon as I have processed! → http://www.talkphotography.co.uk/forums/showthread.php?t=380531

Would this be something worth considering?
 
If you're shooting 6x6/7 then you won't get much grain at 800 unless you're happy to agitate like a lunatic (which is going to yield inconsistent results) and use a high accutance developer like rodinal whilst adjusting dev time.

Go for 1600 or 3200...at least I reckon.

Using expired film is an option, but very difficult to maintain any kind of consistency
 
Alternatively you could try and wreck fresh film using a consistent method - so a certain amount of time in a microwave or whatever the expired film junkies do.
 
Thanks you for the replies, certainly some food for thought there, but think I may go the 1600 - 3200ISO route and experiment a little.

@freecom2: Mocrowave film??? thats a new one on me ~Google here I come~
 
Knikki said:
Thanks you for the replies, certainly some food for thought there, but think I may go the 1600 - 3200ISO route and experiment a little.

@freecom2: Mocrowave film??? thats a new one on me ~Google here I come~
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Might be marginally less scary with 120 film on a plastic spool - the prospect of a tin canister of 35mm makes me think "Don't try this at home folks. No. Really, Don't try this at home!"
 
Sounds like a silly idea to me, and a waste of perfectly good fresh film. lol
 
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