Humans are rubbish sometimes

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Did she go for a shower then before posing for the prize shots? hard days stalking my ass.
 
im wondering if it was drugged. look at the way its head is molded into the ground. i was reading the other day that you can go to these "hunts" where you essentially shoot hand reared animals.

disgusting though either way.

although i suspect the Chinese are doing just as much if not more damage to the worlds wildlife. This (warning graphic) for example.
 
Makes me physically sick! Stalked? With a rifle and tripod ??- would have been interesting to see if she'd been turfed out into the bush alone who would have come out on top. Typical of macho American gun culture, it wouldn't surprise me if she took it out with a drone! Shameful!
 
While it isn't illegal people will still do...morally it's certainly questionable morally though, I'm supporter of country pursuits such as fishing and hunting, however even I cannot find a positive to shooting for trophies
 
Im not against hunting as such, as long as it serves a purpose. Afterall, its something that we have being doing for hundreds of years. I cannot however understand hunting for trophies like this, and it really makes me sick to my stomach. The human race never ceases to disappoint me:(
 
neil_g said:
im wondering if it was drugged. look at the way its head is molded into the ground. i was reading the other day that you can go to these "hunts" where you essentially shoot hand reared animals.

disgusting though either way.

although i suspect the Chinese are doing just as much if not more damage to the worlds wildlife. This (warning graphic) for example.
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There have been several scandals about canned lion "hunts" - not my choice of word - in SA. Most of these have involved captive bred animals being released into a relatively small area a few hours before the "hunt" and/or drugging them. I've no idea if Melissa Bachman took part in one of these, but most hunting is on privately owned game farms and there are no wilderness areas where lions can be hunted in this country to the best of my knowledge.

Poaching - involving organised crime/terror groups - for ivory, rhino horn and lion bones for export to the Far East is having a far more devastating impact on animal populations than hunting in Africa, even in its least ethical formats. Population growth, development, mining, loss of habitat, climate fluctuations, disease, inbreeding, systemic state corruption and various other interelated factors are also combining to make the future bleak.
 
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Pretty horrible that people get enjoyment out of such things. Having moved to SA, I've heard of these type of things before. The main concern here though in terms of killing wildlife in SA, is the poaching of Rhino's horns. The rate at which the rhinos are being killed is pretty alarming. Of course these are being killed for markets in Asia. See here: http://www.theguardian.com/environment/2013/sep/23/600-rhinos-killed-south-africa-2013
 
crofter said:
I'm all in favour of shooting the poachers.
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Well, really its the people who pay the poachers(e.g asian "medicine" markets etc). If there was no financial reward they wouldnt do it. As much. Probably.
 
I have heard that human life sometimes has little value there.
 
Anyone who gets pleasure from killing something just for enjoyment is sick.

Let the animals get their revenge and turf this ***** out on the plains without her gun.
 
While I have no desire to do this I can't believe how anti this most people same to be. If it's legal and people enjoy it then it's fine. Everyone can make a moral choice.

What about fishing? Sure, in many cases the fish will live but it gets a hook through the mouth, handled and suffer the same for the rest of its life.
 
cambsno said:
While I have no desire to do this I can't believe how anti this most people same to be. If it's legal and people enjoy it then it's fine. Everyone can make a moral choice.

What about fishing? Sure, in many cases the fish will live but it gets a hook through the mouth, handled and suffer the same for the rest of its life.
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Wow. It's been a while since I've read such an ignorant post.

Tell me, what purpose did the death of this Lion serve? This incident is in no way comparable to fishing.

If it were legal and joyful to go out and shoot my neighbors cats would that make it okay?
 
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Isnt it legal to marry your first cousin in some U.S States?

...doesnt make it right :p
 
If this was what is known as a canned lion hunt then it is not harming the wild life at all, in fact it helps by keeping areas of the ecosystem to remain wild for all the other creatures of the African plains. As long as people are willing to pay tens thousands of pounds to do this then the wild areas will be kept and not turned into slash and burn farms. It is only the money from tourists whether with a camera or a gun that gives the wild a value to people living in the area.
I agree it is sick to take pleasure from killing any animal purely for the hell of it but it still doesn't hurt the wild population.
 
Eddzz!! said:
Wow. It's been a while since I've read such an ignorant post.

Tell me, what purpose did the death of this Lion serve? This incident is in no way comparable to fishing.

If it were legal and joyful to go out and shoot my neighbors cats would that make it okay?
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Of course it's comparable. The purpose of the lions death was to provide fun/entertainment/challenge to an individual in the same way that fishing does to others. What purpose does fishing solve?

I doubt it would be legal to shoot a neighbours cat as it would be their property and u would need permission first.
 
cambsno said:
Of course it's comparable. The purpose of the lions death was to provide fun/entertainment/challenge to an individual in the same way that fishing does to others. What purpose does fishing solve?

I doubt it would be legal to shoot a neighbours cat as it would be their property and u would need permission first.
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At least in most cases with fishing, you can fish to eat... These Lions are hunted for their heads to be mounted to a wall!
 
Bumper sticker suggestion...

"Dried big game hunters' hands cure AIDS and impotence."
 
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At least in most cases with fishing, you can fish to eat... These Lions are hunted for their heads to be mounted to a wall!
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Really? While some will catch trout and salmon, the majority catch fish for pleasure and fun. You can eat carp and pike but not many do (unless I am mistaken). Ok, I don't think (but am no expert) that the majority of fish are killed but I know they get hooked which you could argue is cruel.

I am not anti fishing and have no wish to see it banned, but it puzzles me why things like this and fox hunting are so looked down upon whereas other 'cruel' things like fishing is fine. Very hypocritical but then fishing is more a working class sport than the others?
 
Simon, you seem to forget that most fresh water fish (in fact, all in the UK) have not developed pain receptors in the mouth, fish have evolved in a different way to how pain is felt & perceived (non existent basically)

A lion has evolved to live in a pride, to love its companions etc and feels a lot of pain, including mental stress, depression and anxiety so please, if you're going to comment, make sure you Look more at the moral side of things.

Cruelty is different on soo many levels and I don't think you can compare the both, they are completely different not only in environment but species.
 
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Eddzz!! said:
Wow. It's been a while since I've read such an ignorant post.

Tell me, what purpose did the death of this Lion serve? This incident is in no way comparable to fishing.

If it were legal and joyful to go out and shoot my neighbors cats would that make it okay?
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Whys it ignorant? As distasteful as I find it, I'd rather she shot a bred for purpose lion (a canned hunt, as others have said) then poached a protected one. I hate say, I see little difference between this and say a pheasant hunt. Rightly or wrongly people always have, and I guess always will trophy hunt.

Not sure why your neighbours cats come into this.
 
Just trying to get my head around why someone would want to shoot what's basically a farmed animal (the canned hunt) what's the point ?
I can sort of see why people shoot wild animals , but strongly disagree with it, but what challenge is there in shooting a lion in a fenced enclosure ?
 
LCPete said:
Just trying to get my head around why someone would want to shoot what's basically a farmed animal (the canned hunt) what's the point ?
I can sort of see why people shoot wild animals , but strongly disagree with it, but what challenge is there in shooting a lion in a fenced enclosure ?
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None really I can see, but that doesn't stop folks shooting with beaters, fishing artificially over stocked lakes etc.
 
Canned hunting is new for gods sake! If someone says it's like killing a cow it's not, cows have been farmed for millennia, a lion - less than a century. It's pure wrong what's happening, no price should be out on a wild animal's head. They were there long before we were.......
 
Flightphoto said:
Canned hunting is new for gods sake! If someone says it's like killing a cow it's not, cows have been farmed for millennia, a lion - less than a century. It's pure wrong what's happening, no price should be out on a wild animal's head. They were there long before we were.......
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Oh yes I agree with you its very wrong, I love big cats
I just don't get why someone would do it, just completely pointless
 
Flightphoto said:
Canned hunting is new for gods sake! If someone says it's like killing a cow it's not, cows have been farmed for millennia, a lion - less than a century. It's pure wrong what's happening, no price should be out on a wild animal's head. They were there long before we were.......
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It's not new....it's being around for years in one form or another. While I agree with you about hunting being abhorant, why is it worse to canned hunt then hunt a truly wild animal? If people are going to hunt anyway isn't canned better
 
There's also an abundance of cattle, look what happened to the black Rhino this month, it won't be long before we look at each other and say 'now what do we kill?'
We really do live on a crap planet don't we :(
 
Flightphoto said:
There's also an abundance of cattle, look what happened to the black Rhino this month, it won't be long before we look at each other and say 'now what do we kill?'
We really do live on a crap planet don't we :(
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yes I assume you mean the Western Black Rhino really sad
but there are good things too Tigers are doing well with numbers rising in the central Indian reserves and new populations being found at high altitude
 
f1charlie said:
I can't, other than they're sick sadists. :mad:
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you've only picked up on part of what I said, yes I agree with you was just trying as I said to understand
its just so pointless I'm really into big cats its a terrible shame what's happening in Africa

"Just trying to get my head around why someone would want to shoot what's basically a farmed animal (the canned hunt) what's the point ?
I can sort of see why people shoot wild animals , but strongly disagree with it, but what challenge is there in shooting a lion in a fenced enclosure ?"
 
From Bachman's website:

"Within a few months Melissa was offered a full time position as a producer and traveled the world filming a variety of incredible hunters. Melissa still longed for the day she could be the one squeezing the trigger"

Sounds like she's deranged.
 
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