How was this shot lit? A new challenge

fletch5 said:
one light, far left(togs left)to light background and give the dark corners on the right, 2nd light front left, lighting object, not sure on modifiers yet, but anywhere near?
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Nope, you've got one light position correct though! :thumbs:

Modifiers are important too!
 
Okay, here's my idea. Soft box front-left. Err...black reflector to the right to give the darkened edge?

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Okay, let's try this one. There's a seemingly hard light from the front but seems to fall off from at the edges and the background is well lit.

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LJR said:
*woot* lol
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I have to admit, I did choose the lighting to try to stretch their thought. My previous post was a little flippant, as the light is also in the correct place, but the type of lighting modifier is wrong (and lets be honest here, that's what make the light what it is).

So, so far we know that there is some form of lighting from the camera left and slightly high, and the camera is shooting from the front. (I'm not sure that the lens on that camera looks like a 135L either :p )

Next?
 
LJR said:
Okay, let's try this one. There's a seemingly hard light from the front but seems to fall off from at the edges and the background is well lit.

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Getting there :p

Actual position of the Main light which did have a honeycomb on it was at slightly more of an angle (about 40 degrees) than you have shown here, this was deliberate as I wanted the shadow to be seen but not too intrusive.

Now you just have to work out the rest of the lighting and what if any reflectors were used and where they may or may not have been.

Next?
 
Forbiddenbiker said:
Are their gentle reflectors low either side bouncing upwards, I see the underneath seems to be lit .... could it be standing on a light box, or is the backdrop lit from underneath?
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:thumbs: That's the important bit :clap:

It was lit from underneath with the light pointing at the joint between the horizontal and vertical. This then was the reason for using a honeycomb as the lighting had to be powerful enough to cast a strong shadow that would still be visible on the lit baseboard, I then placed a reflector to the right to bounce some light to the top of the shadow to allow it to fade away.

I wanted to show how easy it is to get quite professional results in your front room. I used two tables about 10" apart, placed a 12" x 10" piece of perspex (from a picture frame) across the gap, I then set up a reflector holding stand and hung a similar piece of perspex from that. I then bluetacked a piece of A3 injet printer paper to the vertical piece of perspex to create my baseboard/background, in front of this I placed a piece of ordinary printer paper to act as both the front curve and also to prevent flare from the light underneath the stup hitting the lens. Using a Bowens twinclip (great piece of kit, cheap and so very versatile), I placed the reflector to the right of the setup and moved it around until I had the result I desired.

The modifiers used on my little portable Lencarta Safari Heads were a standard reflector on the main light, this had a tight honeycomb fitted, and in order to reduce the power of the Safari head on a small tripod under the setup I used the umbrella reflector (gives less power than the standard) and used a piece of x2 ND gel to give me a further stop reducion.

I took a picture of the setup to give you all an idea of how it looked (cant see the light underneath unfortunately) but I have just noticed TP on the laptop screen behind the card reflector. You can see the perspex sheets, white paper, twinclip and card reflector and a Safari Head that was my main light.

I think most would agree that the final image does not look like it was shot using 2 heads plus bits and bobs that can be found around the house.

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This is quite possibly one of the weirdest quizzes I've ever played!! :)

Okay, if I'm allowed to join in, how was this lit?...

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(**And no, before you ask, there's no computer trickery involved other than a levels tweak...**)
 
EdBray said:
...I think most would agree that the final image does not look like it was shot using 2 heads plus bits and bobs that can be found around the house.
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No indeed, looks straight out of a magazine shoot Ed.
Interesting to hear about that honeycomb use and how its works against the backlight...and the angle of the backlight being so important to the final image.


Excellent thread all.
 
Very good challenge from Ed.

As the 24 hours are up, it seems to me that Specialman's post is the new challenge
 
specialman said:
This is quite possibly one of the weirdest quizzes I've ever played!! :)

Okay, if I'm allowed to join in, how was this lit?...

Ty-nant.jpg


(**And no, before you ask, there's no computer trickery involved other than a levels tweak...**)
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Very hard light coming from the right. The label (I think) has some focus lighting on it while leaving the rest of the bottle facing the camera in complete darkness.

Based on that I'm going to say it's a spotlight on the bottle to the right, perhaps a flash head with a snoot. Maybe also a flash head in front fitted with a fresnel or grid and then placed some cut-outs (or whatever the correct terminology is for the black pieces of material to stop light falling where you don't want it) to constrain the front lighting to the label.
 
This isn't easy to analyse, it could have been done in so many ways.
The fall off of light at the bottom isn't sharp enough to be a spotlight but too sharp not to be modified at all, so as a guess I'd say a honeycomb - probably fitted to a hotshoe flash Positioned camera right
No other lighting used.
 
I'm still trying to work out what the bottle looks like its covered in ...
I've had an idea so I'll try it...

The bottle is covered in black grease of something, looks like rubber maybe...then a window wipe of that has been cleaned of making that lit area.

Then one narrowed bright light to the right fired at that side and also into window is lighting the insides and causing that final view, that blue being the curved insided of the bottle.


:help:
 
single light with a barndoor?
 
Forbiddenbiker said:
I'm still trying to work out what the bottle looks like its covered in ...
I've had an idea so I'll try it...

The bottle is covered in black grease of something, looks like rubber maybe...then a window wipe of that has been cleaned of making that lit area.

Then one narrowed bright light to the right fired at that side and also into window is lighting the insides and causing that final view, that blue being the curved insided of the bottle.


:help:
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Grease - no. Window wipe - sort of. Light into window - nope :D

Keep going... or shall I put you out of your misery? :)
 
Probably wrong, but here goes!

Hard light to right 45 degrees as we look, i think a Blue bottle has been covered in a well wrinkled black bin liner with the aperture cut out of it, and the blue lit effect is the result of the flash bouncing around the inside of the bottle!
 
I don't think hes using a flash Ed, he said just one hard light. ... :shrug:

specialman said:
Grease - no. Window wipe - sort of. Light into window - nope :D

Keep going... or shall I put you out of your misery? :)
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Nope ...hang on we're getting close. :D

Black wax maybe.

There’s another hole (we can't see it) in the covering, around the other side to let the light into the bottle....

:adam with eager look on face:?
 
I would say it was lit by the sun using a hole and shaded from other light.
the shot shows a sky and sun reflection in the bottle.
It may or may not be focused with a lens.
 
I m a newbie and have been following this thread closely, its great and has helped me understand lighting a whole lot more.

So here goes my stab -

Candle wax on the bottle, stripped off to reveal the blue bottle as suggested by incapete.
A hard light med - high right with a uv light strip being used to highlight the uv refective liquid or substance that is inside the bottle positioned also to the right?
 
I d like to know..... perhaps you could send me a pm...so not to spoil it for others....
 
Okay, here it is:

It is a hard light creating the highlight on the right so spot-on there :)

The bottle is placed on an infinity curve table that was covered in black velvet. A hole was cut in the velvet and the bottle placed over the hole. A flash head was placed under the table to light the interior of the bottle.

The bottle is wrapped in tin foil, with a bit ripped off, hence the crazy texture that you can see inside the bottle.

I shot a few polaroids of it but as the heat increased from the lights while I got exposure right, the condensation inside the bottle increased, creating that cloud-like, swirly effect which you see on the final transparency. Pure luck but it works I think.

The shot was actually taken for Ty Nant water, a company local to the college I attended in Carmarthen. It was a competition to find an image that would work for marketing _ this came third – but ended up being used on its US marketing drive along with the winning and 2nd place shot, or so we were told by Ty Nant anyway. I won £150 for coming 3rd, not too bad considering this was about three weeks after joining the course after my graphics/illustration course went t*ts up.

It's still one of my fave shots so thanks for showing interest in it :)
 
O.K. Let's get this going again.
heroic car.jpg

The lighting here is very simple, should be easy to work out
 
Large softbox in relation to the model slightly to the right of camera and very slightly above the cameras position, positioned quite close to the model.
 
There was a softbox right of camera, but apart from that - no.
Look at the lighting on the tyre, suspension arm, inside the wheelarch, bonnet/wing...
And look at the shadows from the bull bar
 
I would say the key light was to the left of the subject and the softbox to the right was there to just soften the shadows but enough to give it some depth.

As for the key light, I would say it's snooted?
 
Better - but not a snooted key light.
And you've only mentioned 2 of the 3 lights
 
lummocks...three lights.

right then

Honeycombed key light to the left
Softbox to the right
Struggling to see the third to be honest but I'm going to guess - to the left and above the subject (perhaps similar to how you would position a hair light)?

I find product shots quite difficult to work out
 
I think the third light is another softbox directly overhead.
 
Soft-boxes to the right and overhead of the camera with the key light to the left of the camera?
 
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