How safe is your Audi?

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Possibly not as safe as you might have thought. or a dealer may have led you to believe. Apparently several models within the range have never been crash tested by NCAP to give them a safety rating like other cars.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-27392157
 
Happy to stick with mine.
 
i think thats a bit of a misleading title.

yeah okay they may not have been officially NCAP rated but that does not make them unsafe. audi would have had internal safety testing and they know the right formula for making safe cars.

yeah okay their marketing and sales teams may have lead people to believe they were NCAP rated but otherwise bit of a scaremongering story.
 
I have no idea what, if any, crash test rating my A6 has. It never occurred to me to research it.
 
neil_g said:
i think thats a bit of a misleading title.

yeah okay they may not have been officially NCAP rated but that does not make them unsafe. audi would have had internal safety testing and they know the right formula for making safe cars.

yeah okay their marketing and sales teams may have lead people to believe they were NCAP rated but otherwise bit of a scaremongering story.
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Whilst the cars may not be unsafe, it may not be as safe as people are being led to believe. Not all new cars manage to pass with a 5star rating, and if dealers are quoting a safety rating, there are obviously some people out there that are looking for cars with a good safety rating. Just because a car passes a safety test, that doesn't mean it will achieve a high rating, protecting the occupants or pedestrians as well as others. A 1 star NCAP rating is probably still a pass (no idea I haven't checked) but it won't protect as well as a 5 star rating which is being claimed.
 
neil_g said:
i think thats a bit of a misleading title.

yeah okay they may not have been officially NCAP rated but that does not make them unsafe. audi would have had internal safety testing and they know the right formula for making safe cars.

yeah okay their marketing and sales teams may have lead people to believe they were NCAP rated but otherwise bit of a scaremongering story.
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Think you should read the link again, there is no MAY about it and it was absolutely wrong for Audi to do this!
 
I thought NCAP testing was compulsory on all large volume manufacturers??

If a fiat 500 manages a 5* for adult occupants then Audi must have something to hide if they can't even put them through the testing procedure.

Audi should immediately send all the models that haven't been tested off to NCAP and be prepared to pay compensation to anyone injured if their cars don't meet the standards they told them they did. Trading Standards need to give them a kick in wallet too. It's disgraceful to lie about something so important. It's one thing massaging fuel economy figures but it's another when you tell people your vehicles are safe when you have no proof.
 
Seems to me that manufacturers ought to stump up to cover some of the costs of testing so gaps are filled in.

I wonder how many of the other manufacturers with non tested models do exactly the same as Audi?
 
Depends on the Audi, A4, A6 have good ratings 5 star, VAG offerings are good as a whole.

A5 and A7 are A4 and A6 based. They'll be safe as them as use the same crash structures albiet with different body work.

R8- its common not to NCAP sports cars, how would a 911 fare. R8 uses a spaceframe contstruction, it will be safe enough.
 
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Didn't BMW get the NCAP to retest the old 5-series because it only achieved 4 stars?
 
When most of the cars are built on the same platform they only need to test one of the range the results will be the same as all the crumple zones and impact areas will be identical.
Also can't see any Audi missing from the list of tested cars?? Again. It much in testing a new model if it's a facelift version structural it'll be the same as the last one in most case
 
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Audi have a major safety issue across the range! They have an insecure thingy that is hidden behind the dashboard which allows the owner to start the engine and drive off!





And we all know what safe driving Gods, Audi owners are!! :banghead:
 
Yves Geza said:
Audi have a major safety issue across the range! They have an insecure thingy that is hidden behind the dashboard which allows the owner to start the engine and drive off!


And we all know what safe driving Gods, Audi owners are!! :banghead:
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Sounds very much like the dangerous safety and handling of black RR Sport models.. One moment it can be stuck at high speed on the outside lane, and then suddenly and without warning swerve violently across 2-3 lanes of traffic and onto an exit slip. Fortunately for the Sport driver that the slip roads are there...Black Seat Ibizas have the same fault I hear.
 
Ah, the AUDI SWI problem. Used to afflict BMWs, especially M badged ones.
 
Have to say I've never been held up by a boy racer - let them pass and away they go. If you want to see proper poor driving follow the pipe and slippers brigade and reps in their Jags, especially the XF version.
 
Yves Geza said:
Audi have a major safety issue across the range! They have an insecure thingy that is hidden behind the dashboard which allows the owner to start the engine and drive off!





And we all know what safe driving Gods, Audi owners are!! :banghead:
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You saw me start mine whilst in gear on Sunday, didn't you :lol: :oops: :$ :angelic:
 
Was that the bush Chris was having his birds in?
 
pitkin2020 said:
When most of the cars are built on the same platform they only need to test one of the range the results will be the same as all the crumple zones and impact areas will be identical.
They won't be identical because skin panels play apart in the crumple zones as well as the platform. Crash tests aren't just about passenger safety they are also about pedestrian safety as well.
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Agree but the main test is crash pedestrian testing is a minor part which is effected by panels.
Panels play very little part in actual crash testing it's the sub structure behind them.
 
pitkin2020 said:
Agree but the main test is crash pedestrian testing is a minor part which is effected by panels.
Panels play very little part in actual crash testing it's the sub structure behind them.
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Up until July last year I spent 30+ years as a press toolmaker at Ford building the press tools for new car panels, floorpans chassis etc. I've seen what goes into panels in the pressing stage to add strength as well as play apart in crumple zones to absorb the crash impact. The way panels fold, (not just the skin panels but those just below the surface which aren't shared with other cars) have an integral part to play in the crumple zone, providing protection or not encroaching into the passenger space to cause them harm. Then there is also the furniture within the car such as seats, dash etc. which may not necessarily be shared with other cars.
It's everything combined in all aspects of the crash tests that then allows NCAP to decide how many stars they will award to rate the car. Just because a car shares a platform with a 5star rated car, it doesn't automatically mean it can share the same 5 star rating which it appears some Audi dealers have been claiming.
 
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i did say very little part in the actual crash testing, are you seriously saying the plastic wings on my car really effect how my car will react when T-boned. Unlikely as they aren't designed for a crash merely a softer landing for a pedestrian/cyclist, upon a heavy impact they will crush and it will be the sub structure that has to bear the full force.
 
pitkin2020 said:
i did say very little part in the actual crash testing, are you seriously saying the plastic wings on my car really effect how my car will react when T-boned. Unlikely as they aren't designed for a crash merely a softer landing for a pedestrian/cyclist, upon a heavy impact they will crush and it will be the sub structure that has to bear the full force.
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No your plastic wings will do nothing. There is a lot of metal work on which doors, wings, bonnets are mounted, plus the crash protection and crumple zones incorporated within those components will not be identical between shared platforms. Shared platform is basically just the floorpan very little above that will likely be shared between two different cars built on the same platform. Because they don't share mountings etc. there is every possibility they won't react the same in the event of an accident.
Take these for example The latest Fiesta and the B-Max, 2 cars built on the same platform, yes they both got 5 star ratings, but look at the difference in risk of injury between the two cars.
http://www.euroncap.com/results/ford/fiesta/488.aspx
http://www.euroncap.com/results/ford/b_max/481.aspx
 
I get what your saying but they both achieved 5 stars with only marginal differences. The panels didn't make one car suddenly collapse under crash conditions but yes the panels on one may have offered a lower risk factor but the overall result (5 stars was achieved) by both sharing the same sub structure
 
Nod said:
Was that the bush Chris was having his birds in?
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You know what they say @Nod a bird in the bush, is worth two in the hand :)

What started to bother me, about a mate was, when driving his TT
He used to yell Banzai! as he indicated and manoeuvred at the same time.

I just thought he was a fan of small tree's.
Seems not after all!
 
Audi driver? Indicators? Oxymoron alert!!!
 
Nod said:
Audi driver? Indicators? Oxymoron alert!!!
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In my experience, I've found they do indicate, it's just how much notice they give and what follows that you have to be wary about.
 
Cobra said:
You know what they say @Nod a bird in the bush, is worth two in the hand :)

What started to bother me, about a mate was, when driving his TT
He used to yell Banzai! as he indicated and manoeuvred at the same time.

I just thought he was a fan of small tree's.
Seems not after all!
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nilagin said:
In my experience, I've found they do indicate, it's just how much notice they give and what follows that you have to be wary about.
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Pretty much my point :D
 
And right on cue, this just dropped into my inbox,
all the way from the good 'ole USofA

husband went to the police station to file a "missing person" report for his missing wife:
Husband :-I lost my wife, she went shopping & hasn't come back yet.
Inspector :-What is her height?
Husband :-I never checked.
Inspector :-Slim or healthy?.
Husband :-Not slim, can be healthy.
Inspector :-Colour of eyes?
Husband :-Never noticed.
Inspector :-Colour of hair?
Husband :-Changes according to season.
Inspector :-What was she wearing?
Husband :-Not sure whether it was a dress or a suit.
Inspector :-Was she driving?
Husband :-yes.
Inspector :-colour of the car? . . . . .

Husband :-black Audi A8 with supercharged 3.0 litre V6 engine generating 333 horse power,
teamed with an eight-speed tiptronic automatic transmission with manual mode.
And it has full LED headlights, which use light emitting diodes for all light functions and has a very thin scratch on the front left door
....................….and then the husband started crying...

Inspector:-Don't worry sir,.....we will find your car.
 
ST4 said:
Aye what I in a eant, how come Jazz drivers drive 40mph everywhere regardless of conditions?
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Yep I was stuck behind one two days ago doing 40 in a 60 limit
Luckily I was on my bike and nipped past
 
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