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Blow sugar up their own Arse!! :D No seriously, am I suffering alone here? I am starting think I have a Photography related illness :gag: I have got to the stage in my hobby that I know the majority of my shots are pretty decent, although every now and again I throw up a bad crop image:lol: However I am still wanting to improve on them, but I am struggling to find out what it is I need to do to achieve this :shrug: Is it a better quality lens I need? Is it my camera settings? Is it my editing skills that need improving? So many bloody questions :lol: Does anybody think like this? At first it was every now and then but of late the thought goes through my mind on a regular basis :( Another thought is that people are not so critical on the C&C :shrug: Dont get me wrong I do appreciate the kind comments I recieve, but at the same time in general C&C does not seem to be so critical as to when I first joined TP. I use the bird forum regularly more so than any of the others, so does anyone who frequents a particular section have the same thought. Would be interesting to hear your opinions.
 
I think Rich,you have got to a stage where you are getting more critical of yourself.
So, you either accept you're (in you're mind) limitations.
Or find time to go to night school or on a course to find out how you want to move forward.
That'll be £500 please.:rules:

On second thoughts,you're photos are rubbish ,please leave the forum.:dummy:
 
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i got my mind set when i started photography as a HOBBY,that there will be a limit to what i will be able to achieve,(unless i was lucky enough to be naturally talented) most all of us,have the ability to run, but we cant run like Bolt! if you are happy with your images,just enjoy it:)
 
I often wonder why people can't be happy with what they are doing, why do they constantly need the approval of others, there are in excess of 6 billion pictures on Flickr all waiting for a pat on the back and that is just one of many Libraries.

How did Photographers feed this need before the Internet?
 
How did Photographers feed this need before the Internet?
Proably at their local photography club. Or by entering competitions
 
Blooming heck....that's one hell of a paragraph...:D

I guess compliments are easier to give than criticism :thinking:

I've felt the same about this year's TP 52, seems far more compliments than constructive criticism.

Cheers.
 
Following logic, a dangerous assumption :D we should all be improving, apart from the odd glitch so on that basis criticism should be less, is it new adherents to the forum that get criticised more as they are less experienced. Do new folk leave if they perceive what they feel are more biased comments as they are new and not part of the 'old brigade'. Some threads get quite heated and I often wonder what effect that has on newcomers even if not aimed at them.
 
I find it very difficult to give writen constuctive criticisem. Because if soemone miss understands your comments. It is not allways easy to explane your meaning.
 
Even the moat naturally talented hobbyists face a ceiling because of what cool stuff they can put in front of their camera.


Keep on shooting, its the only way :)
 
After receiving the feedback on previous posts and improving because of that feedback, you're more likely to get compliments than critique I would imagine.

artyman said:
is it new adherents to the forum that get criticised more as they are less experienced. Do new folk leave if they perceive what they feel are more biased comments as they are new and not part of the 'old brigade'. Some threads get quite heated and I often wonder what effect that has on newcomers even if not aimed at them.
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This is IMHO exactly what is happening. I am highly inexperienced compared to most on the site and I have put a few pics up for critique in the past. I'm pretty thick-skinned (which is the only reason I'm still here!) and think I can handle critique well, however I've definitely noticed that some members on the board seem to go out of their way to provide harsh critique without explanation of how to remedy the problem. You can still critique someones work, but what's wrong with a little bit of sugar-coating? Critique doesn't mean that you have to flame inexperienced members and scare them off from posting more pics. I'm not saying it happens all the time, or in all boards, but it certainly does happen.

Anyway, back on topic - The fact that you still want to improve and you still critique your own work means that you still strive to produce excellent results. The day you believe you've got it nailed and you can't improve on anything is the day that your photography will start to suffer....


All in my humble opinion and no comment made herein is intended to offend any members of the board by suggesting they can be too harsh etc etc etc.
 
Ask me of for critique and an honest critique you'll get, i never blow smoke up arses as that gets us no where.
When someone says it a "bad one" or "not good enough" or not happy with this" then why even go to the trouble of uploading it, editing it, putting that stupid ferkin tag with their name in scrolls in the corner.
I take criticism on board and learn from it, sometimes. But i shoot for myself, i know what i want and work to get the results i want, regardless of what people might say.
 
I joined my local photography club for exactly this, to get critique and help me improve my shots, which I believe it has, but I still enter every one of our monthly club comps as different judges have different takes.

Additionally, I decided I'd do the 52 on here too for the same reason and yes, as posiview says up there in this thread, there's a lot of positive comments and little in the way of critique but I do think part of that is that the 52 is seen as a very "group support" sort of project and doesn't promote critique as much as support, if that makes sense.

I personally don't pat people on the back, I'll happily critique pictures but do try to make sure it's critique and not being critical i.e. tearing it apart.
 
towershot said:
I think Rich,you have got to a stage where you are getting more critical of yourself.
So, you either accept you're (in you're mind) limitations.
Or find time to go to night school or on a course to find out how you want to move forward.
That'll be £500 please.:rules:

On second thoughts,you're photos are rubbish ,please leave the forum.:dummy:
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You might well be right Rik :shrug: I have always been critical of anything I have done, I have done building work and landscaping for people in the past and when finished have looked it and thought next time perhaps I will do that bit differently, to the customer it looks great but to me it is just a little something which looks out of place. That is easy though as it is imo a small mistake which can be rectified the next time you do a similar job, but going back to the photography side of things I need to recognise what it is that is niggling me, and that seems to be the problem. Some people are happy to rest on their laurels, which is their choice and I have no problem with that. Getting up at 3.30am is bad enough without going to night school :gag:
Rankbadyin said:
I often wonder why people can't be happy with what they are doing, why do they constantly need the approval of others, there are in excess of 6 billion pictures on Flickr all waiting for a pat on the back and that is just one of many Libraries.

How did Photographers feed this need before the Internet?
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As above, I always try to do my best and improve on anything I put my hand to. There probably are those that want a pat on the back as you so rightly put it and that has been discussed many times before on TP, however you have to realise that there are those that like to share their pictures with others, and there are equaly as many people that enjoy looking at those pictures because it is related to the same kind of genre as they have an interest in. As before the internet :shrug: maybe people looked at stunning photographs in magazines or exhibitions and this alone drove them on to improve with there own work. My original thread was kind of light hearted but at the same time it is something I would like to try and sort out. It may be one or a combination of the things I think it might be, it might come to me tomorrow next week or never at all :D I could just be stuck in the middle part of that steep learning curve :lol:
 
Instead of looking at new gear etc, try looking for a harder subject. If still in the bird world forget the Blue Tit on a stick shot and try for the much harder Osprey with catch type of image. You already know you can get pin sharp dicky birds so you need to get a harder challenge to get the same buzz. Just the opinion as someone who is still trying for the BT on a stick thats in focus and no camera shake. :razz:
 
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