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Anyone know what sort of film and/or processing are used to get this effect? I love the deep blacks, and the mottled grainyness of the grey areas. I have asked the author and had no reply
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All I know is - It's film, taken on a Holga
 
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no pic Matt!
 
You gotta be signed in!!
 
I'm not hotlinking as it's pretty explicit, and not my photo. Anyone who is a flickr member should be able to see it so long as they click through the content filter.
 
High grain/noise.....If you shoot film then underexpose then push process.
If digital then high ISO presumably although I suspect the effect could be added in pp.
Others will offer more detailed help I'm sure...
 
I forgot to add at first: I know this is film, taken on a Holga.
I wonder what films do grain like this. I have push processed 400 to 1600 a couple of times and things were still comparatively clean...
 
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if its just grainy, you don't even need to push process, just use fast film like 3200

although I gotta say, I just did some 35mm HP5 in Microphen and its bladdy orrible, grainy as hell..:(


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I underexposed some Ilford HP5 not long ago by 3 stops and pushed dev...Got the desired effect of plenty of grain but i misscalculated the dev time and they came out very underexposed!
 
To me it doesn't look like "grain" as such - maybe the effect of expired film, or to be honest just something in post-process.
 
freecom2 said:
To me it doesn't look like "grain" as such - maybe the effect of expired film, or to be honest just something in post-process.
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I agree, the grain in the top right hand corner looks suspicious to me...
 
Without wishing to state the obvious, have you considered asking the photographer? After al,l responses on here are mere speculation.
 
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To me it doesn't look like "grain" as such - maybe the effect of expired film, or to be honest just something in post-process.
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It may be grain caused by underexposing and pushing a bit too far. But it's huge grain, especially considering it's probably 120 film. But I'm with Freecom and Liam - I think it's been added digitally.
 
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Possibly XP2, Although I can't be sure. Holgas are single speed remember, and that was taken indoors, whatever it was it was massively underexposed.
 
Looks more like it was done in PS than actually on the film. I've never seen any film as grainy as that, especially medium format!
 
Joenail said:
Looks more like it was done in PS than actually on the film. I've never seen any film as grainy as that, especially medium format!
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yeah, would have to be at least ISO 12,800 to get close to that level of graininess :P
 
The thing is - it's possible to probably do this with film - either at the point of exposure or the point of developing, or a combination of both, but the chances are it's a PP technique.
 
I'm also claiming PP shenanigans on this one and I suspect the lack of reply from the photographer would support that. Either that, or they are just rude!

The grain is far too uniform for my liking.

You can achieve this kind of effect with film and dev though.......

1) use 35mm* so grain Vs image size is maximised. 8x10 wont help you here!
2) Under expose and over develop (push process an already "fast" film)
3) use an acutance enhancing developer such as Rodinal at a high concentration
4) sharpen the arse off it

*Or crop heavily from a larger format!
 
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