How does one get into Photography apprentice.

Hi Nikki, I' m willing to help out if you want to learn anything.... Only down the road in Wallingford.

I can not help in Landscapes as I dont shoot them. I used to shoot sport for agency and Nationals so could give you some tips.

But if you want to play in studio doing product or play with lighting then PM me.

I'm not worried about competition as Im know clients go for us because of what we do....

As Ali Bear said it's not just photographing, it's customer service, It's some times the personalty the clients want too...... many things not just your work make a client choose you for a job.....
 
Daryl said:
Hi Nikki, I' m willing to help out if you want to learn anything.... Only down the road in Wallingford.

I can not help in Landscapes as I dont shoot them. I used to shoot sport for agency and Nationals so could give you some tips.

But if you want to play in studio doing product or play with lighting then PM me.

I'm not worried about competition as Im know clients go for us because of what we do....

As Ali Bear said it's not just photographing, it's customer service, It's some times the personalty the clients want too...... many things not just your work make a client choose you for a job.....
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Thank you so much, just to be able to tag along and help for some tips etc and just to be able to see how the "pros" do it.

I will send you a p.m. for numbers etc :thumbs:
 
I think that quite a few people (myself included) would like to tag along with a pro to see how they go about dealing with a shoot. I mean the HOW to take images in a particular way can be learnt on a course and I agree it's not fair for a pro to teach this for free.

The useful bit would be how you talk with the client, how you set things up, how you manage your images/equipment, how you deliver the work in terms of workflow etc etc etc.
I have a long-term project for a local charity coming up. Taking the photos and video is fine but I have no real idea how to go about some of the other things. [Thankfully they are very relaxed about it and it's not paid so it's more of a learning experience] It would have been helpful to at least have been at a shoot before and been able to ask a few questions of the pro's.

If someone tags along just to watch how it's done in the style I mentioned above then it's not really a threat to a pro's job as it's not really giving anything away that can be used without getting ones own clients anyway, if you see what I mean.

Incidentally if anyone in Nottingham area is willing to let me tag along I would really appreciate it.

Andy S
 
EMA747 said:
I think that quite a few people (myself included) would like to tag along with a pro to see how they go about dealing with a shoot. I mean the HOW to take images in a particular way can be learnt on a course and I agree it's not fair for a pro to teach this for free.

The useful bit would be how you talk with the client, how you set things up, how you manage your images/equipment, how you deliver the work in terms of workflow etc etc etc.
I have a long-term project for a local charity coming up. Taking the photos and video is fine but I have no real idea how to go about some of the other things. [Thankfully they are very relaxed about it and it's not paid so it's more of a learning experience] It would have been helpful to at least have been at a shoot before and been able to ask a few questions of the pro's.

If someone tags along just to watch how it's done in the style I mentioned above then it's not really a threat to a pro's job as it's not really giving anything away that can be used without getting ones own clients anyway, if you see what I mean.

Incidentally if anyone in Nottingham area is willing to let me tag along I would really appreciate it.

Andy S
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All of the above is available on training courses. Just because you tag along with one pro doesn't make their approach right either. We are all individuals and deal wkith people differently. Just be yourself.

Check out Mark Cleghorn's online training - Live videos from weddings, commercial shoots, kids photography etc etc. Best money I've spent. He has apprentices that earn/win their places and they video their 12 monthly sessions and homework. Really very good. THere are a number of "masters" that provide helpful info on landscapes, weddings, pet photography and a whole lot more......

If you've not looked I think he does a couple of free videos. Check out http://www.phototraining4u.com/dap/a/?a=2581
 
Mmm, I tagged along in my early days with a fare few togs in the 80s'. I saw stuff but learnt little. Just became a tea boy/Runner etc. It was ages before I was aloud to do set ups.

I would throw people in the deep end with made up jobs so the person coming along does not get bored. Tag along afterwards and you may get a better understanding.

But I know I wanted hands on and never got it in the old days......
 
I,m new to dslr photography and I noticed last year I was returning to the same places over and over because I was familiar with them and knew where to go for the best locations, So I joined a local camera club which has rekindled my photography and has got me into sports photography and I have learned loads by asking other photographers there about camera settings and the like. I'am now thinking about a coarse.
Sam
 
I agree with Jim, you can pretty much learn all you need to know if you put in the effort personally to learn from books, dvd's and the internet and get out there and practise the techniques. There are literally hundreds and hundreds of video tutorials on youtube... just watch them.

Develop your own style and find what works for you.

If its actual business experience you are after, then thats a different story.
 
I've just found this thread, very interesting.
I can understand both sides of the argument, these days making a living from photography is a lot harder with so many 'wannabe' pros around and with so many people selling photos via microstock websites, it's a lot tougher.
From a pros perspective, I totally agree that a lot of the time you just don't have time to teach someone, the last thing you need when working in a studio doing portaits or working at a wedding is someone firing of lots of questions.
The next thing to think about is how did the pros get where they are, a degree in photography, self taught or working with a pro?
I would lay odds on that most didn't learn with a pro.

The main difference between a pro and someone who takes amazingly stunning photos is that the pro makes a living from it.
Unless we are talking about weddings and portraits, there are many amateur photographers who take fantastic photos in other fields, the proof is here on the forum.
In my case my main interests with photography are wildlife, street and landscapes.
I know two members here, one is someone I consider the best street photographer who could easily be a pro and another one is an amazing bird photographer but doesn't limit himself to just the one subject and his technical knowledge on photography is second to none.
I pester them both with questions and I spend a lot of time looking at their photos to try and gain knowledge from them.
Both are happy to share information but I don't limit myself just to these two, I ask anyone who I think I can learn from and everyone is happy to share.

My advice would be to make friends with someone who just does this for a hobby whose phtos you really like and also shares the same photographic interests as you do.
Unless of course it's wedding and portraits you want to learn about but then again, we have plenty of members who are fantastic at portraits and are not pros.
 
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