The reason is. that Unis and Colleges just seem to want to churn out students for arts sake.
A generalisation again. Some might.. in fact, I know some do. Your point? You can't assume ALL do this though, as you've clearly no idea what all universities do. I work in Education, and my circle of peers do as well... I know very well which Unis are good, and which aren't. If anyone's interested, PM me.. it would be highly unprofessional of me to post it in a public forum.
Photography is alot more than spending weeks and light shot of Tree bark.
With all due respect Daryll... you're talking nonsense. If that's what a student wants to do.. that's up to them. Uni courses are about allowing students to follow their own creative path. Many photographers have been very successful in areas you would dismiss as nonsense. Keith Arnatt springs to mind straight away.... as does Richard Billingham. We can't force everyone to be a commercial, wedding, advertising, school or social portraiture photography. I run a degree course... that's not what it's about... if you want commercial reality, study an HND. Having said that, as I wrote in reply to your PM... we DO stress the importance of commercial deadlines, but we also have to teach certain things on each module, and that takes time to cover everything. The deadlines at Uni are based on what we need to cover appropriately.
The course should teach everything from basics to pushing the student to find their style and niche. Also prepare them for the outdoor World. For too many students from these courses do not go on to by togs.
We do. Many do not go on to be "togs" (Christ I hate that term)... but that's down to them. Many see a photography degree as an easy option to getting a degree... those students will not succeed. This is true for many other "soft" subjects that are not S.T.E.M subjects and not exclusive to Art & Design. I think again you are generalising based on limited knowledge and also by having too high an expectation from graduates you employ as assistants. You can't expect ANY employee fresh from college to hit the ground running and be able to keep pace with yourself. This is true for ANY industry. This is why, even though you have a degree... you start at the bottom... because like with so many other things in life, the real learning happens in the real world. That doesn't mean education is not worthwhile though.
In our year there were 60 of us. Only 3 or 4 are still full time toggers.
Then your course was crap and didn't recruit ethically.
I want to see more doing it...... Not do the courses and then go work in an office or become a bricklayer.
Well.. those that just want to do it... probably do just that... they just go and do it. That's what I did, but some like to to go to college to be part of a creative environment as the creativity is what they feel is lacking in themselves. You come across as very negative about photographic education and I can only suggest that your experiences were not good, but that doesn't mean that your opinions can be generalised into statements of fact.
I do the odd wedding. As do like to dabble. so you out of the other links you only pick out the wedding one...........Mmmmmmm.
How funny.
I mentioned Weddings and School photography... because that's what your signature suggests you mainly do. Again... if that's not true, you may want to revise your signature.
You'll find they want to churn out any students for money sake - all university's care about these days is money.
This is quite simply not true... and I invite you to either substantiate that with some facts... or stop trying to cause trouble.. like you ALWAYS do in these threads. Unis are judged by the quality of their alumni... and doing what you suggest would be financial suicide. You're one of these people who so far as I can tell, have done nothing to qualify anything they say. No website, no examples of your work, no qualifications in the subject and no experience as a professional photographer. You're just jumping on to what Daryll is saying to be a troll as usual..
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Yet again when the subject of Uni courses comes up, the same people tend to jump on it and come out with the same anti-educational diatribe. This is neither helpful for the OPs of the threads, or particularly constructive.
In Lurgan too
