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I'm not sure what that means?
I just signed up with an email address and password.
Nothing more than that.
Hmm, time to dump flickr and finally build my own website?
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I just signed up with an email address and password.
Nothing more than that.
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That means that you were a regsitered user, so the site recognised you & didn't serve you ads.
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I still don't understand what you mean?
How can you not register? you need to log in to access the site, or am I missing something?
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As a user that the site 'doesn't know' you can still view people's images, but you get served ads.
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You don't need to have a Flikr account or be logged in to see a Flikr album. I've just opened both your Flikr sites and browsed through your images without being logged into Flikr.
Having said that (Ancient_Mariner) I've been browsing for a minute or so and not seen any adverts.
edit: nope I'm wrong, I'm now getting adverts, and struggling to get out of seeing the ad once it appears :-(
I think I got confused with what site I was on (free or Pro)
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Maybe it was something they were trying at the time, and have now dropped?
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See my edit, you were correct, the ads are extremely annoying!
It's worth knowing about because I wouldn't subject family or friends, who may not have a flikr account, to this level of advertising.
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This is my own flickr album (free account). If I scroll through my images using the interface I get adds like this.
That's the most annoying example I've found. There's also several in my activity feed, but they're easier to overlook.
That's the most annoying example I've found. There's also several in my activity feed, but they're easier to overlook.
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I'd look at my Flickr without logging in (which must replicate the non Flickr member experience - think about it), and for years I'd see no ads. But it changed recently, and now I do, and it's as Toni says.
So it hardly affects the Flickr 'community' as such, but would affect friends and acquaintances that I might direct to my Flickr stream. They have no way of being logged in, which would avoid the ads.
But this is new, and might not've been rolled out equally across all accounts - yet?
Anyway, It prompted me to pay up, which was probably Flickr's intention - and a hint that movement is afoot.
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I’ve recently had a payment go out from PayPal for a magazine subscription. You can turn off recurring payments so you don’t get caught out - I now know!
What was really annoying is that I’d phoned up to cancel the subscription and they told me it would end anyway as my card had expired. It seems PayPal just takes it from another card!
Also some months ago I received an email to tell me the card had expired for my Adobe subscription. I didn’t update it as I wanted it to end. Weirdly I still have Adobe fully working and haven’t yet found out why or how.
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Ok I get you now, but I am always logged in when I look at flicker, I guess that's what you mean?
Nope never seen anything like that on my free one at all,
I must be speshal
I'm not sure why anyone would look through flickr without being logged in though ?
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Because not everyone who clicks on the Flikr link at the bottom of your post will have a Flikr account, and not everyone you might email a link to a photograph or album on flikr will have a flikr account.
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Fairy nuff.
But I don't see the logic in browsing flicker without an account even a free one.
Especially if it means no ads.
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I obviously see this differently as I wouldn't expect anyone that I might want to share some photographs with to feel forced to sign up to Flikr, just to avoid seeing ads mixed in with my photograph.
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Fairy nuff,
yes it seems we do see / use flicker differently, and to that end, it just never occurred to me that people wouldn't login.Or be logged in, if they wanted to see my "stuff"
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Fairy nuff,
Or be logged in, if they wanted to see my "stuff"
Yes, I wouldn't dream of asking my sister, or my mum (no longer with us), or friends with no interest in photography to open a Flikr account just to be able to browse my images ad free.
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I was logged in...
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Fairy nuff, but going through the rest of the posts it seems to be claimed that you only get adverts if you aren't logged in.
Exactly what I've been saying.Bizarre ... never had adverts
It looks like some do some don't. Going back to what I was saying earlier, I never see adverts, even on the free one but then I have a good ad blocker running.
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It's been getting more annoying/invasive recently...Bizarre ... never had adverts
I wonder if there is some kind of legal reason for there being a difference; I'm in the US.
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I don't have an ad blocker running... there aren't any for latest version of Safari yet (?). Maybe I should switch back to Firefox...
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I use either firefox or opera, on windows.
Not that the latter should make a difference?
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That could be it, I have a blocker running.
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I've now checked your small flikr site after logging in, and I'm still getting adverts (in chrome, no ad blocker).
When I wasn't logged in I got an offer to get rid of the ads by opening a pro account (no offer to open a free account). I only have a free account, and never see ads on my own account so I wonder if having a pro account (and being logged into it) also stops you seeing ads on other peoples free accounts.
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Quite possibly I never see ads when looking anywhere else when logged in to the pro account.
I just randomly browsed Flickr logged into my free account, and browsed a couple of "non pro" accounts.
Still no ads...
It has to be the Ad blockers
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Seems like it is.
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I know very few people with a Flickr account outside of this site (can't imagine why anyone who doesn't need images hosted on the web would want to be registered) so I expect they've been shown irritating ads if they've tried to view my pictures.
So, want a reason for spending that £38 a year on hosting your own website? I think we've just found one.
So, want a reason for spending that £38 a year on hosting your own website? I think we've just found one.
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My experience is that to date, any Flickr member, whether free or 'pro', once logged in, would not see ads on any other user's stream, whatever the status of that other user (free or 'pro').
However a non-Flickr member, which equates to a Flickr member not logged in, would tend to get the ads when viewing a 'free' Flickr member's stream. And I want non-Flickr friends to be able to browse my stuff (if they want to) without interruption. So I paid up.
Everything is a can of worms, n’est-ce pas?
Having your own website is a different kettle of fish (or worms). Its disposition (structure) and probably purpose too will be different to those of a presence on Flickr. You will have more control. It can be be personalised. You can arrange to sell through it. Some formats even factor in print fulfilment directly from a lab to your customer, saving on admin and postage costs. But it's hard to see how it can function as a photographic social interchange in the way that a Flickr account can. You're not present in it as a community member, you're just there as yourself.
So I do both. Flickr is the social arm, and the website is the commercial arm - though I'm more art than trade, but you can guess what I mean, I hope.
And so that's about £70 a year. For a bit of context, how much is a telly license, say? (I don't have & have never had a telly, hence the rhetorical question.)
It all has to depend on what your motives are. Do you want to just sell stuff, harvest 'likes' to bolster your self-esteem, or actually communicate with others? The field is open!
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Now that's interesting. I see Flickr as being utterly shallow, where no-one offers meaningful crit and the praise is often just a copy/paste from the code supply at the front of the group. Does any meaningful interaction ever actually happen there?
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Yes, it certainly does. I suppose that it depends on who you choose to consort with, whom you seek out, but resonances are widespread. It's certainly something to navigate and I don't have a recipe. But small matter - I'm no preacher - I just search out what works for me. But if you can tap into any sort of mutual recognition there, it's heartening in ways that can be both cultural and human.
Debate & crit - well the culture is that Flickr isn't really the place for that. A pity in a way, because my instinct is for those things, but I've learnt to eschew them largely in that context. But if you express recognition of people's work - people who are consistently good in ways that you appreciate (but not perfect!) - some amongst them will also cotton onto what you're up to. Many may not be skilled with words, and the world-wide scope means that language differences can intrude, but images are universal, aren't they? A democracy.
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I agree with you, I think I see Flikr mainly as a place to link to photographs to include in forum posts, and an easy way to give a link to friend or family. And although, I'm not involved with it, as photo forum for photographers to share work.
I don't see it as a place to "show case" of someone's best work or for commercial work.
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£154. And free for over 75's ( but that might stop too) and partially sighted get 50% off! how generous!
I wouldn't have a clue As I mentioned before, I use it purely to host images.
I do get lots of people "Faving" my images, mostly people I've never heard of.
I don't get the point of that either?
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I have a couple of blogspot accounts, one for my photography and other for my doodles and for now act as a kind of back up. I used to have a Photobucket account that was once ideal for providing 3rd party links into forums but they've changed it and now charge $500 (about £450) P/A if I wish to carry on using it to provide links. Sod that for a game of soldiers so I use W10's own OneDrive for that and so far does seem to do the job.
PS: Hi Cobra! The licence fee for over 75's will still be available for those on pension credit and attendance allowance (eg, my elderly mother) for the foreseeable future, it's those on private "golden handshake" type pensions that will lose out in 2020.
PS: Hi Cobra! The licence fee for over 75's will still be available for those on pension credit and attendance allowance (eg, my elderly mother) for the foreseeable future, it's those on private "golden handshake" type pensions that will lose out in 2020.
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well I just let my account expire and can now restart at £35.91 if i choose i need to 
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Hi Ian
Are they still offereing a discount for "New ones" ? b****r! I missed out on that this year, I did get it last year, and did look this year, but there was no mention of it.well I just let my account expire and can now restart at £35.91 if i choose i need to
Mine just renewed @ £40:45p
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Yes doing a supposed 25% offHi Ian
Are they still offereing a discount for "New ones" ? b****r! I missed out on that this year, I did get it last year, and did look this year, but there was no mention of it.
Mine just renewed @ £40:45p
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Has anyone else ( non Pro accounts) had the begging letter from Flickr yet?
It seems that they are offering 25% off from the 26th Dec.
I have to admit that certain parts of the letter made me smile though ..
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Flickr needs your help. It’s still losing money. Hundreds of thousands of loyal Flickr members stepped up and joined Flickr Pro, for which we are eternally grateful. It’s losing a lot less money than it was. But it’s not yet making enough.
We need more Flickr Pro members if we want to keep the Flickr dream alive.
We didn’t buy Flickr because we thought it was a cash cow. Unlike platforms like Facebook,
we also didn’t buy it to invade your privacy and sell your data. We bought it because we love photographers, we love photography </snip>
It seems that they are offering 25% off from the 26th Dec.
I have to admit that certain parts of the letter made me smile though ..
<snip>
Flickr needs your help. It’s still losing money. Hundreds of thousands of loyal Flickr members stepped up and joined Flickr Pro, for which we are eternally grateful. It’s losing a lot less money than it was. But it’s not yet making enough.
We need more Flickr Pro members if we want to keep the Flickr dream alive.
We didn’t buy Flickr because we thought it was a cash cow. Unlike platforms like Facebook,
we also didn’t buy it to invade your privacy and sell your data. We bought it because we love photographers, we love photography </snip>
