Hiking Bag recommendation - now with fStop Satori Review

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I've started doing a fair bit of hiking recently, and am finding the current Crumpler half photo bag I have a bit uncomfortable for long hikes, does anyone have a recommendation for a bag that will fit the following;

Canon 40D
Canon 10-22mm
70-300 (currently Tamron, but changing to Canon soon)
Canon 50mm 1.4

Thermos
Lunch
Water

Various Filters (mostly Cokin P type)

Tripod

Rain Cover is a nice to have, but not essential

I like the quick access type of bags, but the Kata 3N1-30 wont fit everything in and the Lowepro Fastpack 350 wont either, so need an alternative....
 
When the light is good I carry the camera in my hand, not in a bag.
Even my Lowepro Slingshot I use 'normally' can be too slow to get the camera out in rapidly changing mountain light, so I still tend to carry in my hand.

I alternate between carrying holding the lens in my left hand and by the grip with my right hand. I can go all day like this even with the 5DII and 24-105 which is a pretty heavy combo.
If the light is good only put the camera back in the bag to scramble up/down steep rock or cross wet slippery boulders.
 
Bit like DuncacnDisorderly - I too have a proper walking sack, which I just arrange my camera gear to fit - I am super cheap and made cases / pouches for my lenses from a camping mat, though sometimes I just throw the camera / lenses in my sack wrapped in a fleece. My tripod fits where the walking poles would go.

Depends on what I am doing, but I have a small top loader style camera case which has a belt loop, which attaches to my waist strap. If the weather turns or, if I am doing some scrambling / climbing, then it gets put in the bag.
 
For when I'm out doing proper photography on my own I use a Deuter 55+10 back pack with a Dakine Camera block inside which is by no way good enough for fast changing light and you get the camera out when you want to set up. But it carries everything and its very comfortable.

On walks I do with people and dont carry my tripod I use a Lowepro Primus AW which is pretty good and pretty quick access, not as comfortable as a proper back back but good enough and adequate space but not loads.
 
Well after a fair bit of googling and reading reviews this morning, I decided on an F-Stop Satori, hopefully it will be more than enough bag for the future, and certainly fills the requirements of fitting everything in :)

Will do a review of it when it arrives
 
Canon 40D
Canon 10-22mm
70-300 (currently Tamron, but changing to Canon soon)
Canon 50mm 1.4

Thermos
Lunch
Water

Various Filters (mostly Cokin P type)

Tripod

Rain Cover is a nice to have, but not essential

I like the quick access type of bags, but the Kata 3N1-30 wont fit everything in and the Lowepro Fastpack 350 wont either, so need an alternative....

With the exception of the tripod, I would argue that you could pretty much get all you describe above into a Fastpack 350, I am able to fit a gripped 40D with 100-400mm fitted, a 17-85mm, a 10-20mm, 2x handheld scanners, batteries, memory cards, some drinks and a couple of ring binded books ( aircraft serial numbers and callsigns).

You say a rain cover is not important, a strong binbag is just as effective, but if you had a rain cover, it could easily live in the laptop space.
 
Do it soon because I'm trying to decide between one and a Tilopa ;)

I was trying to decide between them and figured I would just go for the larger one, it comes with the XL camera pack, so when I move to some nice big white lenses, they should also fit in the pack without problems :)

Order has been confirmed and is being shipped today, so will have it in a few weeks to do some shots of
 
I have a FastPack 350 and I find the main problem with it is that it doesn't allow you to easily control the weight and compress the bag down. Nothing worse than traversing a big of steep hill and having the contents of your camera bag make you feel like you're carrying a Mexican jumping bean. There have been a couple of times when I've felt like my bag's almost tipped my balance which would be a bit disastrous on walks like this...



For safety's sake, being able to distribute and control the contents of a bag is just as important as being able to fit stuff in.

Between the Satori and Tilopa, I think I'd go for the Satori, but with the large ICU instead of the XL ICU. This would allow me to carry more food, water, clothing, etc.
 
Well the Satori showed up in the post yesterday, not bad - 7 days from order to delivery from the States and no Customs charges to be seen :D

This thing is huge, and will last me for a looooong time in terms of expansion room for kit and build quality, it is very very well built and I am somewhat happy with it :)

I ordered the Satori with the XL Camera Pack - this comes as standard, but will take the Large Camera Pack that they do, but you would have to talk to FStop directly to order in this configuration I think.

(Excuse the crappy photos, but my decent camera was packed in the bag)

Outside Front

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This is the bag fully packed, with my 1L Thermos in the side pocket and a Manfrotto 055XB legs and 804RC head combo strapped to it, the front has Ice Axe loops on it, with top and bottom straps to hold the legs in place, and they are quite securely held once strapped down. There are also straps on either side of the bag above the pockets (where the coffee is) to hold things in place there, so you could put your legs on the side if you wanted. I did try this, but it unbalances the bag when you do.

There is also a set of loops on the bottom of the bag, so if your tripod is shorter, then you could easily strap them to the bottom of the bag - again I tried this, but the legs overhung the edges of the bag by quite a way, and I would no doubt get stuck trying to negotiate a style or something....

Bag Back

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The back of the bag is quite padded and contains a rear access panel to the Camera pack inside the bag, on the reverse of the access panel are 2 see through storage pockets for anything slim (CF cards, batteries, filters...)

Once you unzip the cover of the Camera pack, you get full access to the contents

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The Camera pack itself has velcro loops on the side of it, which fasten through plastic clips on the inside of the bag to hold it in place inside the frame. My only gripe about the access with the XL pack is that it is sometimes difficult to unzip the interior cover as the pack is larger than the rear access, but I guess with practice this will become easier.

The waist straps are really strong as well, so you can actually slip your arms out of the shoulder straps and sping the bag round to the front to access the kit, I've tried this and it does work :)

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The straps themselves are very well padded and walking round the village last night with everything strapped in was very comfortable, I will be taking it out this weekend to test it on a hill, but the weight distribution seems very good, and there is an internal metal frame like all good hiking bags that helps with this.

Top Pockets

If you open the top of the bag to access the Camera Pack, there is lots of space above it to hold a rolled up jumper, or trousers, or anything else you want to store in there

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With the smaller Camera Pack, this would obviously be a bigger storage space, but I think it is sufficient for what I will need (and lets me store more camer kit)

At the very top of the bag is another large pocket that will take a lunch box (I stuffed my Large Tesco Quick Clip box in there and it closed no problems)

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The Camera Pack

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The Camera pack itself slips out of the inside of the bag without problems (once you have unfastened the Velcro side ties to it) and is enourmous. It currently holds every bit of camera kit I own, and has space for more!

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I managed to get stored...

Canon 40D Body
Canon 10-22
Sigma 70-300 APO DG (With hood)
Canon 28-135 IS USM
Sigma 18-50 f4-5.6
Canon 50mm f1.4 (with Hood)
Canon 430ex Speedlight
Kenko 1.4 Teleconverter

Tesco Large Quick Clip lunchbox

All the lenses with the exception of the 70-300 went in the bag upright - this is a deep case, even the Speedlight goes in stood up straight....

The sections are all configurable, and I could quite easily take the lunch box out, move the lens section to the top and kit a body and LONG lens down the centre of the case, I measured it at about 10 inches by 4 inches

Laptop Compartment

With the Camera case out, the Laptop Compartment is easy to see - you can access this while the Camera Pack is inside, but its easier to photo with it out...

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This should quite easily take a 17inch laptop, and there is a split section infront of it for other related gubbins

Other pockets

There are also 2 large front pockets running most of the length of the fron of the bag, one overlaps the other - I could fit 2 of the Thermos flasks inside one of them and cables etc in the other, and there is a small pouch on the waiststrap for coins / keys or a phone.

The bag is also festooned with loops for attaching a miriad of other bags and attachments to, I have a lowepro lens case, and the loops on the bag act like belt loops, so these can be attached easily.

Overall Impression

If I ever manage to fill this bag and think I need another one, then I hope I am going on Safari for a long time, seriously, this bag is designed for hard core mountain use by snowboarders and skiers and is well up for that job, so should definitely suffice for the long hikes and odd weekend away.

I really like the fact that the Camera Pack is removable, which means that when going on holiday, you can take the Camera Pack out and on as hand luggage and fill the rest of the bag with 2 weeks worth of clothes.

I am well chuffed :D
 
Thank you so much for putting that review together :) A couple of questions, if I may:

1) How much storage space have you got inside the bag, above the Internal Camera Unit (ICU)?

2) Do you think a bladder would fit in the laptop compartment? Also, any way to route the drinking tube? I've a 2L Camelbak.

cheers!
 
Thank you so much for putting that review together :) A couple of questions, if I may:

1) How much storage space have you got inside the bag, above the Internal Camera Unit (ICU)?

2) Do you think a bladder would fit in the laptop compartment? Also, any way to route the drinking tube? I've a 2L Camelbak.

cheers!

There is sufficient space above the ICU for a good thick jumper - I got a pair of padded Snowboarding trousers

There should be plenty of room for a camel back, I can get both forearms in with the ICU in as well, as for routing, you could just leave a gap in the zip on the top, but there is no dedicated hole for headphones or a drinking tube
 
Can I ask where you ordered from foolycooly? Went to order from the Fstop website but was saying 215 dollers for delivery using UPS!
 
Devitt, you can change the delivery option to USPS - cost me 40 dollars

:thumbs:Just saw that, ordered. Just what I'v been looking for and hopefully the last bag I buy. Thanks for the review:)
 
good review thanks,its allways best to put the heavy stuff at the top if you can.
 
Just ordered my Satori with a large ICU instead of the extra large ICU. Hopefully will be able to put it to the test on the hills in the next few weeks. :)
 
Wow! Amazing bag, bit overkill for a walk in town though. Haven't found my ideal type yet. Currently alternate between a toploader style and a stealth reporter 200, neither of which I like.
 
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