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Following on from Gary's pictures shot at very high ISO, what would be the best performing sensor for strictly amateurs with a modest budget (hunderds rather than thousands!!)
We may all drool over his D3S images, but which sensor will give us the best images in a dark and dank non league grounds for the smallest outlay?

My 7D struggles in the floodlit non league and I wondered if there are any alternatives? 5D mk1?
 
Nikon d7000 does very well in the ISO stakes but the majority of cams apart from 1D series and Nikon D3/S will seriously struggle on non league grounds, if the high ISO levels dont break you then inferior AF systems will
 
Is the 1D mk 2 just too old? I havent used it much since I got the 7D
 
cornishboy said:
Is the 1D mk 2 just too old?
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Well sort of, but bear in mind it was the best there was a few years ago and didnt stop anyone getting the job done, you have to work within the limits of your equipment

My favourite cam of all time was the MKIIN, it just worked brilliantly.
 
Go for the canon 5dmk2, Have used it at very high iso with very little noise. Not cheap but well worth it.
 
My 40D copes quite well at 3200. I'll stick some pictures up tomorrow if you want but then I haven't tried it under non league type floodlights yet. That was just in the fog the other day!
 
Gary Coyle said:
Nikon d7000 does very well in the ISO stakes but the majority of cams apart from 1D series and Nikon D3/S will seriously struggle on non league grounds, if the high ISO levels dont break you then inferior AF systems will
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D7000 or D700? Just want to check.
 
scottthehat said:
the d700(same sensor as the d3) has better io than the d7000, but the d7000 has better high iso than the d300,
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Bit the D300 has the same AF as the D700 and D3......which is superior to the D7000's!

Said a D7000 owner who is very happy with his camera.
 
Pentax K5. Good high ISO and good price at moment.

Dave
 
bigrob said:
D7000 or D700? Just want to check.
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I was talking about D7000, good ISO performance but poor AF, well poor in challenging light and for field sport applications, even my D700 struggles under good floodlights.

But as in another thread theres simply no way i would use a D7000 in the field so to speak, even as a third body i choose a D300S simply for the better AF and its way more rugged.
 
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Ah okay thanks Gary.
 
My favourite cam of all time was the MKIIN, it just worked brilliantly.

I must be doing something wrong Gary as when I was at Grimsby a few weeks ago for a youth cup match I thought I'd be ok under there lights but I was really struggling to get some decent pictures with my MKIIN. Tried it on the H setting but far too much noise so knocked it down to the 1600.

I know its an old camera now with all the newer ones with the high iso's but I still like it.
 
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whiterosesom said:
My favourite cam of all time was the MKIIN, it just worked brilliantly.

I must be doing something wrong Gary as when I was at Grimsby a few weeks ago for a youth cup match I thought I'd be ok under there lights but I was really struggling to get some decent pictures with my MKIIN. Tried it on the H setting but far too much noise so knocked it down to the 1600.

I know its an old camera now with all the newer ones with the high iso's but I still like it.
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Didnt say it was the best at high ISO but it was certainally a great camera
 
I know what you meant Gary and hope no offence taken. I think its a great camera for me but does get frustrating in bad light with knowing how good it works for me in normal lighting conditions.

It will have to do until i win the lottery !!!
 
whiterosesom said:
I know what you meant Gary and hope no offence taken. I think its a great camera for me but does get frustrating in bad light with knowing how good it works for me in normal lighting conditions.

It will have to do until i win the lottery !!!
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On a nice bright day i would pick the MKIIN up even before my D3S
 
LOL you know I was being flippant ;)
 
I'm getting my popcorn...
 
So when are you buying the 1DX Gary ? Or is it already on order !
 
The buffer on the D7000 will drive you made for sports.
 
The23rdman said:
The buffer on the D7000 will drive you made for sports.
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11 frames 14 bit lossless, 15 frames 12 bit compressed raw (where the D300 does 17), 38 frames large fine JPEG, and it recovers completely in 7 sec. Not great, but not that terrible. In large fine you won't run out of space unless you're shooting regular seven second bursts, in 12 bit compressed not unless 3 second bursts are your thing. If you're using crap SD cards, then yeah the buffer will be an issue, but UHS-I cards are £20 now.
 
ausemmao said:
11 frames 14 bit lossless, 15 frames 12 bit compressed raw (where the D300 does 17), 38 frames large fine JPEG, and it recovers completely in 7 sec. Not great, but not that terrible. In large fine you won't run out of space unless you're shooting regular seven second bursts, in 12 bit compressed not unless 3 second bursts are your thing. If you're using crap SD cards, then yeah the buffer will be an issue, but UHS-I cards are £20 now.
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I use the best cards and, like most pros, shoot 14bit raw. The buffer is a problem.
 
They tend to take shorts bursts, so don't think the buffer will be a problem.
 
scottthehat said:
ha ha, the 1dx looks great but i expect the will have mirror box problems as thats normal thing for canons to have,
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I'd like to think they may have learn't from that little foobah !...... I'll make my judgement when the working models are available...ie when you can put a card in and take your own shots....I hope this is soon...and not just before the release date next year
 
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As already recommended, the D7000 is very good at high ISO. I shoot alot of ice hockey and am never below 2500, sometimes up to 3200 and 4000 and still it copes pretty good.

I agree though the buffer is poor, i shoot jpeg for my hockey stuff so the files sizes are a little smaller but shooting at 6fps in raw is a biatch on the buffer.

Here's a few I shot yesterday at 2500ISO


D7K_1583 by Matt_Giles, on Flickr


D7K_1420 by Matt_Giles, on Flickr


D7K_1413 by Matt_Giles, on Flickr

These were shot with my D7000 and a Nikon 70-200 f2.8 on the front, shooting at f3.5 and 1/400th
 
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