High-end bridge cameras: Sony RX10, Panasonic FZ1000 etc

dibbly dobbler said:
iso800 for this one... cleaned up ok so have bumped up my auto iso settings to allow iso1600 max - will report back if I get a half decent shot :)


Robin by Mike Smith, on Flickr
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Very nice wildlife style capture Mike, with good colour & detail.
 
I'm really liking these shots.

I'm guessing you're pleased you made the switch to MKIV from the MKIII.

What would you say are the major benefits?

I'm just thinking about keeping my FF, but selling my APS-C (and lenses) and getting something like the MKIV which I think would solve a lot of the issues I had.

I never use the APS-C any more, but I think I would definitely get a lot of use out of the Sony.
 
Kell said:
I'm really liking these shots.

I'm guessing you're pleased you made the switch to MKIV from the MKIII.

What would you say are the major benefits?

I'm just thinking about keeping my FF, but selling my APS-C (and lenses) and getting something like the MKIV which I think would solve a lot of the issues I had.

I never use the APS-C any more, but I think I would definitely get a lot of use out of the Sony.
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Hi Kell.

There is not a lot between the Mk3 and Mk4 for the kind of shooting I do (ie typically a stationary target) so to be honest if it suits your budget better I would pick up a nice second hand Mk3 (unless you are going for birds in flight or similar).

I have an A7R2 also which I rarely use now - the RX10 is just so conveniant for casual shooting (eg going for a walk and throw it over your shoulder type stuff which is mostly what I do now).

Main drawback as you will have seen from the above is that you can't push the iso too far and you won't get a nice smooth background bokeh if you're shooting birds, there are a lot of advantages though!

Cheers
 
dibbly dobbler said:
the RX10 is just so conveniant for casual shooting (eg going for a walk and throw it over your shoulder type stuff which is mostly what I do now).
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Thanks

That's pretty much what I want if for. Carrying a FF and more than one lens seems like overkill for this sort of use.

I do have an APS-C, and a kit 18-135mm lens (which gives a 29-216 ish equivalent). Which is a pretty decent solution. And would pretty much negate a MKI or MKII Sony RX10. But I'm tempted by the reach of the MKIII or MKIV
 
I'm after a little help please.
I am going on a trip to Cambodia, Laos, Burma etc in a few months and am trying to work out what camera to get to take with me. I started a thread about this a few days ago but since then I've been reading this thread which has opened up another option, namely a bridge camera.
I have a Fuji X-H1 with 18-135mm lens that could come along, but feel that a compact camera would be needed as well, not least as my wife might be encouraged to use it as well as me.
However, I'm also very tempted to get a bridge camera of some sort.
I've been getting pointed towards things like the Sony RX100 range, but am also looking at things like the Sony RX10 or Panasonic FZ1000/2000. The extra range really appeals, and maybe it might mean I'd only need the one camera, and the X-H1 could be sold to help cover the cost.. It seems that none (from what I've seen) of the above offer much by way of weather proof-ness and while that would be good, I'm not likely to be out too much in torrential downpours, or if I am the camera would be tucked away. I don't like getting too wet..
I've not seen or tried any of the above, but one of the big concerns I have is the IQ difference between a 1" sensor and an APSC sensor.
Do any of you have a shot, ideally of the same thing that can show this?
I'd be very grateful!
Just in case anyone asks, budget is fairly open at this stage.
 
stevewestern said:
I'm after a little help please.
I am going on a trip to Cambodia, Laos, Burma etc in a few months and am trying to work out what camera to get to take with me. I started a thread about this a few days ago but since then I've been reading this thread which has opened up another option, namely a bridge camera.
I have a Fuji X-H1 with 18-135mm lens that could come along, but feel that a compact camera would be needed as well, not least as my wife might be encouraged to use it as well as me.
However, I'm also very tempted to get a bridge camera of some sort.
I've been getting pointed towards things like the Sony RX100 range, but am also looking at things like the Sony RX10 or Panasonic FZ1000/2000. The extra range really appeals, and maybe it might mean I'd only need the one camera, and the X-H1 could be sold to help cover the cost.. It seems that none (from what I've seen) of the above offer much by way of weather proof-ness and while that would be good, I'm not likely to be out too much in torrential downpours, or if I am the camera would be tucked away. I don't like getting too wet..
I've not seen or tried any of the above, but one of the big concerns I have is the IQ difference between a 1" sensor and an APSC sensor.
Do any of you have a shot, ideally of the same thing that can show this?
I'd be very grateful!
Just in case anyone asks, budget is fairly open at this stage.
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Hi Steve. It's a tricky one! I don't have any 1" v APSC images sorry (my other camera is full frame). Clearly the 1" is not going to match the APSC so it's a question of whether it's 'good enough' I guess. The Fuji + 18-135 is a very nice combination so it's a question of whether the extra reach would help (eg wildlife shooting maybe ?) or whether you really need a second body for your wife. I love my RX10iv and it's a real do everything camera - the lens is really sharp but it's not great in low light and if pixel peeping is your thing then it may not be good enough for you... best I can suggest is to browse the above thread and click through to Flickr and zoom in as far as you can and see what you think. Cheers :)
 
dibbly dobbler said:
Hi Steve. It's a tricky one! I don't have any 1" v APSC images sorry (my other camera is full frame). Clearly the 1" is not going to match the APSC so it's a question of whether it's 'good enough' I guess. The Fuji + 18-135 is a very nice combination so it's a question of whether the extra reach would help (eg wildlife shooting maybe ?) or whether you really need a second body for your wife. I love my RX10iv and it's a real do everything camera - the lens is really sharp but it's not great in low light and if pixel peeping is your thing then it may not be good enough for you... best I can suggest is to browse the above thread and click through to Flickr and zoom in as far as you can and see what you think. Cheers :)
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Thanks for your reply.
I do need a second body for my wife but that's purely because I'm old, nothing to do with photography...
I know I'm going to have to get along to a camera shop and try a few options in the end. I don't pixel peep, but would like fairly fast focus and image that if I buy an RX10 it'll get used for this trip and then long reach stuff like motocross and grass track racing. Really low light is not likely to be a major issue.
If I go for something small then yes Kate might use it but I struggle to think it'll get a lot of use.
I'll keep looking, reading and hope to get along to a shop but sadly there isn't much nearby (I'm in Cornwall, there is a wex in Bristol, 3 hours away...)
 
Last month I sold my RX10 iv to offset the cost of a FujiFilm X-H2. No regrets as it is a superb body, but I did miss the RX10 and when the BF sales came up I bought another. It is a truly superb bit of kit.

The purpose of this post is to let any purchasers (within last 360 days) or potential purchasers that Clifton Camera's have an offer of the Sony 3 Year Extended Warranty for £19.97 plus £5 postage. It is a genuine deal, it is £70ish elsewhere, and having first checked with Sony UK as to the validity, I purchased the warranty card and my lovely RX10 iv is now under warranty till Nov 2026. Peace of mind for 4 years for £25.

I believe works with other Sony cameras and lenses but it is wise to double check with Sony UK.

(I did have cause to use the warranty on my previous RX10 iv when the flash release button stopped working. Sony UK could not source the part, which probably cost less than a £1, so they sent me a brand new camera. Very impressed with the service from pick-up to return which was dealt with by the lovely ladies at Sony UK Wales in a very professional and courteous manner).
 
stevewestern said:
Thanks for your reply.
I do need a second body for my wife but that's purely because I'm old, nothing to do with photography...
I know I'm going to have to get along to a camera shop and try a few options in the end. I don't pixel peep, but would like fairly fast focus and image that if I buy an RX10 it'll get used for this trip and then long reach stuff like motocross and grass track racing. Really low light is not likely to be a major issue.
If I go for something small then yes Kate might use it but I struggle to think it'll get a lot of use.
I'll keep looking, reading and hope to get along to a shop but sadly there isn't much nearby (I'm in Cornwall, there is a wex in Bristol, 3 hours away...)
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Steve, seen your post re bridge camera's and I can only second Mike's points.

It is an astonishing camera, and I sold mine to add an X-H2 body to the fleet and immediately regreted it. Not the X-H2 but selling the RX10...so I bought another last week from Amazon on their BF sale.

IQ wise it is excellent, low light does pose a problem which you can overcome with a bit of twiddling either in camera or in post processing (I use Capture One and ON1 Raw) and it is the perfect grab quickly and bug-out camera with a fantastic focal length spread.

I cannot think of a better or more accomplished jack of all trades and master of most.
 
patr said:
Steve, seen your post re bridge camera's and I can only second Mike's points.

It is an astonishing camera, and I sold mine to add an X-H2 body to the fleet and immediately regreted it. Not the X-H2 but selling the RX10...so I bought another last week from Amazon on their BF sale.

IQ wise it is excellent, low light does pose a problem which you can overcome with a bit of twiddling either in camera or in post processing (I use Capture One and ON1 Raw) and it is the perfect grab quickly and bug-out camera with a fantastic focal length spread.

I cannot think of a better or more accomplished jack of all trades and master of most.
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Thanks for both your replies patr. I'll try to get to a camera shop at some point (not many here in Cornwall) to have a play. I'll also keep my eyes on the classifieds just in case something comes up that I can sell on if I don't get on with it.
 
Very nice well seen capture Glenn, liking this presentation very much.
 
dibbly dobbler said:
The mouth of the river Almond yesterday :)


The Mouth of the Almond by Mike Smith, on Flickr
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Very nice landscape style Capture Mike, and nicely presented in mono.

"I've been up your way this morning, well to "Harris" on a bit of a mercy mission for one of my mates. Pretty cold up that way but not a lot warmer now that I'm back down in Kent"
 
G.K.Jnr. said:
Very nice landscape style Capture Mike, and nicely presented in mono.

"I've been up your way this morning, well to "Harris" on a bit of a mercy mission for one of my mates. Pretty cold up that way but not a lot warmer now that I'm back down in Kent"
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Thanks George - that is quite the trip! Hope you were appreciated :)
 
dibbly dobbler said:
Thanks George - that is quite the trip! Hope you were appreciated :)
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Yes no problem there, he's been a buddy of mine since we were both at High School back in the USA. Although a tad expensive it doesn't take too long in Choppy and was quite a nice trip. :) :)
 
dibbly dobbler said:
Nice!
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If I get to make another trip up your way and I'm in not too much of a hurry perhaps I could give you a tug to see if you'd like to see some of your terrain from the air. That's if you don't mind flying of course, I've taken several people out with me from TP and I'm pretty sure all of them enjoyed it.
 
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