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.........going on holiday in October and would like to take my Canon AE-1 with me but I would like to shoot in B&W, we are going to Malta so I need something for sunnier, brighter climes (hopefully), what would you recommend please?

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I have recently purchased from a carboot a Kodak Brownie 127 (1963 - 2nd edition I think?)
I did a bit of research and loaded it with 35mm colour film just as a practice (still working on this roll of film, bit of a hit or a miss from what I can make out). I would love to take it with me too but I don't want the faff of having to take a film changing bag with me which I have just ordered.
Questions:-
Will 127 film be easier to work with and where is the best place to purchase it from?
Is there different 127 film eg for brighter conditions also would prefer black and white?
Will I still need the black bag to change the 127 film?
Can I store the 127 film both before it is used and once I finished with it until I can get it processed at home?
And last but not least where do i get the 127 developed?

I will have access to a fridge but not sure if this will help with the storage of both the 35mm and 127 film?

Sorry for all the questions but your help would be very much appreciated.

Thanks in advance.

Carol
 
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If you want to keep the the aperture open you'll probably want something slow, Pan F or pull FP4+. Take a faster film too, you never know!

127 had been out of production for sometime but a new one has just launched, its not cheap but its not very expensive. http://www.talkphotography.co.uk/threads/127-film.557099/

I wouldn't worry about storage for a few days it'll not make any difference, though if you do go Pan F don't sit on it too long it loses the image apparently!
 
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Crtm said:
.........going on holiday in October and would like to take my Canon AE-1 with me but I would like to shoot in B&W, we are going to Malta so I need something for sunnier, brighter climes (hopefully), what would you recommend please?

Also

I have recently purchased from a carboot a Kodak Brownie 127 (1963 - 2nd edition I think?)
I did a bit of research and loaded it with 35mm colour film just as a practice (still working on this roll of film, bit of a hit or a miss from what I can make out). I would love to take it with me too but I don't want the faff of having to take a film changing bag with me which I have just ordered.
Questions:-
Will 127 film be easier to work with and where is the best place to purchase it from?
Is there different 127 film eg for brighter conditions also would prefer black and white?
Will I still need the black bag to change the 127 film?
Can I store the 127 film both before it is used and once I finished with it until I can get it processed at home?
And last but not least where do i get the 127 developed?

I will have access to a fridge but not sure if this will help with the storage of both the 35mm and 127 film?

Sorry for all the questions but your help would be very much appreciated.

Thanks in advance.

Carol
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At the moment the only 127 film available is this http://www.macodirect.de/films-blackwhite-films-medium-format-films-diverse-rera-p-3098.html

And as far as I know Maco Direct are the only place that stock it in Europe although that may change.


Most of the decent processors will dev 127 but it's worth ringing round just to check turn round time and prices.

Like 120 film it's best to load/unload the film in subdued light, you don't need a changing bag.
 
steveo_mcg said:
If you want to keep the the aperture open you'll probably want something slow, Pan F or pull FP4+. Take a faster film too, you never know!

127 had been out of production for sometime but a new one has just launched, its not cheap but its not very expensive. http://www.talkphotography.co.uk/threads/127-film.557099/

I wouldn't worry about storage for a few days it'll not make any difference, though if you do go Pan F don't sit on it too long it loses the image apparently!
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RaglanSurf said:
At the moment the only 127 film available is this http://www.macodirect.de/films-blackwhite-films-medium-format-films-diverse-rera-p-3098.html

And as far as I know Maco Direct are the only place that stock it in Europe although that may change.


Most of the decent processors will dev 127 but it's worth ringing round just to check turn round time and prices.

Like 120 film it's best to load/unload the film in subdued light, you don't need a changing bag.
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Ok Steven and Nick had a look at Rera Pan 100 127 don't mind buying a few rolls of this for my holiday.

Re developing 127 will places like Boots deal with it or do I have to look for a specialist?

Thanks again guys.
 
Last time I took a roll to Boots they didn't really know what to do with it.

Check with Peak or AG Photographic.
 
Crtm said:
Ok Steven and Nick had a look at Rera Pan 100 127 don't mind buying a few rolls of this for my holiday.

Re developing 127 will places like Boots deal with it or do I have to look for a specialist?

Thanks again guys.
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Nah boots won't cope with these they're proper B&W films so you'll need to send them away to Peak, AG or the like or do them at home (not difficult honest).
 
steveo_mcg said:
Nah boots won't cope with these they're proper B&W films so you'll need to send them away to Peak, AG or the like or do them at home (not difficult honest).
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Don't want to spend a lot of money on setting up and don't have a dark room Steve.
 
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Don't want to spend a lot of money on setting up and don't have a dark room Steve.
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You've ordered a changing bag though so all you need is a paterson tank and spiral (£10 ebay) and a bottle of rodinal £10 (Silverprint). Read the home developing thread it really is very simple its just a matter of following steps in sequence.
 
steveo_mcg said:
You've ordered a changing bag though so all you need is a paterson tank and spiral (£10 ebay) and a bottle of rodinal £10 (Silverprint). Read the home developing thread it really is very simple its just a matter of following steps in sequence.
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Ok did not realise I could use the changing bag, sorry for being a bit naive regard this film malarkey.
 
Crtm said:
Ok did not realise I could use the changing bag, sorry for being a bit naive regard this film malarkey.
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No worries. I just realised I missed the :) off my last post, it comes across wrong.
 
steveo_mcg said:
You've ordered a changing bag though so all you need is a paterson tank and spiral (£10 ebay) and a bottle of rodinal £10 (Silverprint). Read the home developing thread it really is very simple its just a matter of following steps in sequence.
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Hi Steven is this what I need?

http://www.macodirect.de/darkroom-f...uper-system-br35mm-tank-incl-reel-p-2102.html

If I am ordering 127 and 35mm film I would rather it came from one place.

Edit........Mmmm just checked think its a lot cheaper from ebay!
 
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Hi Steven is this what I need?

http://www.macodirect.de/darkroom-f...uper-system-br35mm-tank-incl-reel-p-2102.html

If I am ordering 127 and 35mm film I would rather it came from one place.

Edit........Mmmm just checked think its a lot cheaper from ebay!
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Get a double one, you never know when you'll want to try medium format :-P

http://www.macodirect.de/darkroom-f...on-super-system-ptp115brincl-reels-p-706.html

If you order from ebay just watch the Maco minimum order of 40 euro...
 
Hi Carol - If you're anywhere near St Albans, give me a shout. I have a load of old tanks, spirals, a changing bag, measuring cylinders etc. that you can have to get you started. It's nothing fancy, but more than enough if you want to give B&W processing a go. You would just need to buy a couple of small bottles of chemical.

Maybe someone else on here could donate a scanner :)
 
Hi J,

Thanks for your extremely kind offer but alas I am nowhere near St Albans, I do have a scanner though quite old but still does the job bought it new several years ago, it's an epson photographic scanner came with all the different slides for film etc so sorted in that department.

I'm having a look online to see how to to do this on the cheap but I am a bit stumped regard all the different chemicals for different film! I want something that will do ilford black and white 35mm and Rera Pan 100127. Steven suggested rodinal from Silverprint but what else do I need and will this do several different film types? :bat:

All the other measuring jugs, tongs/clips etc I can pick up in poundworld or somewhere similar, they don't need to be photographic stuff just general household equipment will do I'm sure.

I had ordered a black changing bag anyway and as Steven suggested I can get the tank and a couple of spirals for not too much money off ebay.

Thanks once again J your offer was/is very kind.
 
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Hi J,

Thanks for your extremely kind offer but alas I am nowhere near St Albans, I do have a scanner though quite old but still does the job bought it new several years ago, it's an epson photographic scanner came with all the different slides for film etc so sorted in that department.
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I know I'm going to get killed and my body dragged through the streets for saying this, but I don't think there's a huge difference in B&W developers. There, I've said it ;)

Unless you are using specialist films or need really, really long shelf life, you can just buy a small bottle of something cheap, and it will be fine. You will need a developer, a stop (you can do without this and just wash with water, but I think it's best to use one) and a fixer. This is what I bought:

http://www.firstcall-photographic.co.uk/products/478/ilford-ilfosol-3-film-developer-500-ml
http://www.firstcall-photographic.co.uk/products/509/ilford-ilfostop-stop-bath-500-ml
http://www.firstcall-photographic.co.uk/products/506/ilford-rapid-fixer-500-ml

The developer will do about 12 to 15 films and the others will last absolutely ages, so it's pennies per film.

The other thing you will need are the sleeves to put your negatives in. Get the paper ones. They are cheaper and much less faff to get your negatives in and out.

Have fun - developing your own films is absolutely brilliant. You may even find, like me, that's it's more fun than taking the pictures :)
 
127 film is midway in size between 35mm and 120. This means that a developing tank which is only designed to take one 35mm film will not be large enough to take 127. if you buy the Patterson Super System 4 tank with two reels, you will then be able to deveop:

2 * 35mm films (using both reels)
1 * 120 film (using one reel)
1 * 127 film (using one reel)

The Patterson reels have click stops to adjust the width, and the middle setting is the one you use to develop 127 film.
 
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Crtm said:
Hi J,

Thanks for your extremely kind offer but alas I am nowhere near St Albans, I do have a scanner though quite old but still does the job bought it new several years ago, it's an epson photographic scanner came with all the different slides for film etc so sorted in that department.

I'm having a look online to see how to to do this on the cheap but I am a bit stumped regard all the different chemicals for different film! I want something that will do ilford black and white 35mm and Rera Pan 100127. Steven suggested rodinal from Silverprint but what else do I need and will this do several different film types? :bat:

All the other measuring jugs, tongs/clips etc I can pick up in poundworld or somewhere similar, they don't need to be photographic stuff just general household equipment will do I'm sure.

I had ordered a black changing bag anyway and as Steven suggested I can get the tank and a couple of spirals for not too much money off ebay.

Thanks once again J your offer was/is very kind.
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Rodinal will do everything under 400 and even then it just gets a little grainy. If you're getting your film from Maco get the developer there too, a soft pack of R09 (branded rodinal) is only a few quid.
 
My 127 film has arrived now to load the camera! ...................................Feeling excited!!!
 
Quick question guys is the best place to store my film including the Rera Pan 100 127 in the fridge?
 
General concensus is that fridge is best, although many store their's in the freezer. If its cool and dark it should be ok to store it elsewhere for a while.
 
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Quick question guys is the best place to store my film including the Rera Pan 100 127 in the fridge?
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If you're going to use it within a few weeks, or even a few months, then it doesn't make much difference where you store it.


Steve.
 
Ok I will put it in the fridge I have a plastic tub that they all fit in just wanted to make sure it was ok for the Rera to go there too since it different film.
 
Ok Kodak Brownie 127 loaded and ready to go with Rera Pan........wish me luck!:wave:
 
So am I, probably a roll of nothing! Lol
 
Taken 5 already, how many is there on a roll? Hope my home processing stuff comes today that will give me something to do tonight that's more exciting than TV! lol

Edit just looked it up and it all depends on what format I am using so it could be 8, 12 or 16?
 
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Taken 5 already, how many is there on a roll? Hope my home processing stuff comes today that will give me something to do tonight that's more exciting than TV! lol?
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Should be 8, I think your brownie takes 6x4. But it might be 4x4 in which case it'll 12.
 
steveo_mcg said:
Should be 8, I think your brownie takes 6x4. But it might be 4x4 in which case it'll 12.
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Better make the last 3 count then! Lol

It will be 8 because when I think about it the 35mm film ones were very long.
 
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Or lunch, everyone loves pictures of peoples lunches.:D
 
Well it is lunchtime.....;)
 
Crtm said:
Taken 5 already, how many is there on a roll? Hope my home processing stuff comes today that will give me something to do tonight that's more exciting than TV! lol

Edit just looked it up and it all depends on what format I am using so it could be 8, 12 or 16?
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The 127 Brownie circa 1963 (second edition) takes 6x4" , so Steven was correct in the first place :geek: :exit: so you have 2 left, take your time and good luck with the process :pics:
 
happygolucky said:
The 127 Brownie circa 1963 (second edition) takes 6x4" , so Steven was correct in the first place :geek: :exit: so you have 2 left, take your time and good luck with the process :pics:
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Thanks Andrew, just waiting for my processing kit to arrive, bit nervous about processing them myself it will be the first time I have ever done it, talk about the deep end!!

Question - When I looked up home processing they talk about temp and timings, guys can I ask for some help in working this out or where can I find the relevant information?
 
Crtm said:
Thanks Andrew, just waiting for my processing kit to arrive, bit nervous about processing them myself it will be the first time I have ever done it, talk about the deep end!!

Question - When I looked up home processing they talk about temp and timings, guys can I ask for some help in working this out or where can I find the relevant information?
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Developing Times

  • ISO 100, Supergrain, 1+12, 6 Min., 20°C (68°F).
  • ISO 100, R09/Rodinal, 1+25, 9 Min., 20°C (68°F).
  • ISO 100, Microphen, Stock, 9 Min., 20°C (68°F).
  • ISO 100, D-76, Stock, 9 Min., 20°C (68°F).
 
RaglanSurf said:
Developing Times

  • ISO 100, Supergrain, 1+12, 6 Min., 20°C (68°F).
  • ISO 100, R09/Rodinal, 1+25, 9 Min., 20°C (68°F).
  • ISO 100, Microphen, Stock, 9 Min., 20°C (68°F).
  • ISO 100, D-76, Stock, 9 Min., 20°C (68°F).
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So the developing time depends on what developer you use? I have chosen Rodinal so for Rera Pan 100 127 it will be 9 mins at 20 degrees Fahrenheit what does the 1+25 mean please or will that be self explanatory on the bottle? :nailbiting:

Sorry I know I am being really annoying with my questions but once I have done it once I will be ok, just want to get it right the first time if I can. :kiss:
 
1+25 means 1 part RO9/Rodinal + 25 parts water. That's by volume NOT weight!
 
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