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Morning folks

I'm looking for a small, pocketable EDC camera. I sold my GX9 paired with the 20 mm F1.7 years ago and want a similar set up.

I shoot Z mount + OM and have some lenses for those.

I was looking at the new OM5 ii and pairing it with the 17 mm F1.8. Pocketable, weather sealing is awesome but I know there is not a lot of love for the OM5 ii. Can be had currently from Wex (UK shops) for about £899 (black) and will come with 5 year OM warranty. I have a couple of lenses I can use already.

I've looked at the Fuji cameras, don't know much about them but they seem expensive and most don't appear to have weather sealing.

Nikon ZF looks like a big camera and the ZFc lacks weather sealing and doesn't appear to be many lenses available.

Would appreciate any suggestions people have.

Many thanks
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Perhaps go in a different direction and look at the waterproof "tough" cameras or again, the pocketable "super zooms" such as the Sony HX90 or the Panasonic TZ series?

Incidentally, it might garner more responses if you had just written "every day carry camera".
 
If you can let go of the weather sealing aspect then XE4 with like a pancake lens would be amazing. Otherwise X100F/V/VI with just the UV filter on the front is good.

There is always the XT4 but it's not that small.
 
AndrewFlannigan said:
Perhaps go in a different direction and look at the waterproof "tough" cameras or again, the pocketable "super zooms" such as the Sony HX90 or the Panasonic TZ series?

Incidentally, it might garner more responses if you had just written "every day carry camera".
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Assumed EDC was known to mean every day carry
 
Nikon ZFc and any other Nikon APS-C bodies (like the Z30, which might meet your needs) will accept FF Z lenses, so don't assume you're just restricted to their DX lenses :)

Likewise, I believe the Olympus PEN E7 will fit any OM system lenses.

Its not clear if either the PEN E7 or the Z30 are weather sealed though. It doesn't appear to be a priority in a lot of compact cameras.

Sony have a lot of compact interchangeable lens bodies.

As @Raymond Lin has said, Fuji's later X100 series cameras are weather sealed (although I didn't think the F was...)
 
Adamcski said:
Assumed EDC was known to mean every day carry
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It's always a mistake to think that anyone else understands an acronym. There was a programme on the radio a while back where they asked people what, apparently well known, acronyms meant and quite a lot of those interviewed couldn't answer the questions.
 
AndrewFlannigan said:
It's always a mistake to think that anyone else understands an acronym. There was a programme on the radio a while back where they asked people what, apparently well known, acronyms meant and quite a lot of those interviewed couldn't answer the questions.
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However, as a photography forum :thinking:
 
gramps said:
However, as a photography forum :thinking:
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I think that the key word here is "forum". If we don't understand the question, because of the way it's phrased, we can't share our knowledge properly with the person asking it (or for that matter, any other reader who might find the question and the answers of interest),
 
EDC, daily driver....very techy youtube sphere people speak.

Personally, I don't carry any EDC camera besides my phone. The only time I EDC a camera is when I am on a trip. I don't see any reason to EDC a "real" camera on my 30min walk through the same street everyday that doesn't have that many people. If I were to work in an environment where i travel a lot more then perhaps I would.
 
Raymond Lin said:
If you can let go of the weather sealing aspect then XE4 with like a pancake lens would be amazing. Otherwise X100F/V/VI with just the UV filter on the front is good.

There is always the XT4 but it's not that small.
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I did look at some of the Fuji cameras and like the look of the T30 iii is it. Just everything Fuji seems expensive
 
colourofsound said:
Nikon ZFc and any other Nikon APS-C bodies (like the Z30, which might meet your needs) will accept FF Z lenses, so don't assume you're just restricted to their DX lenses :)

Likewise, I believe the Olympus PEN E7 will fit any OM system lenses.

Its not clear if either the PEN E7 or the Z30 are weather sealed though. It doesn't appear to be a priority in a lot of compact cameras.

Sony have a lot of compact interchangeable lens bodies.

As @Raymond Lin has said, Fuji's later X100 series cameras are weather sealed (although I didn't think the F was...)
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I had looked at both the Z30 and ZFc but not waterproof and the Z30 which I liked more had no evf
 
Raymond Lin said:
EDC, daily driver....very techy youtube sphere people speak.

Personally, I don't carry any EDC camera besides my phone. The only time I EDC a camera is when I am on a trip. I don't see any reason to EDC a "real" camera on my 30min walk through the same street everyday that doesn't have that many people. If I were to work in an environment where i travel a lot more then perhaps I would.
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I have an iPhone 16 pro max so can use that but just want something pocketable that's not a phone.

Don't think I will take many snaps of my commute either but want to have something small I can grab and stuff in a pocket rather than having to get my backpack.
 
Adamcski said:
I did look at some of the Fuji cameras and like the look of the T30 iii is it. Just everything Fuji seems expensive
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The Pandemic has inflated their prices a lot on this side of the shores. Was just in HK, prices are much much more reasonable. XE4 for £500, could have got a lens for another £200 or so easily.

In the Fuji line up, there are more expensive models and less expensive. The XE4 personally was OVER, massively over inflated because when the X100V was out of stock, people flocked to the XE4 as an alternative. That camera was £799 new, yet it was selling at like £900 for years on the used market as the X100V was like £1400 also for ages. People were pricing the XE4 + a pancake lens inline with the X100V (with it's built in lens).

Whereas some other bodies like the X-S10, same internal as XT4, with IBIS but less fashionable, I picked up a mint, boxed, with a kit lens for £699 2 years ago.

The XT30 line are an alternative to those who want XT3/4/5 but don't want all the features.

There is also the XM5 too, that's quite cheap, I think it has the XT4 sensor? Although it's downside is it is more video centric and i believe it is electronic shutter only. But it is TINY and good alternative. Especially if you work within its limits.
 
See, I like the interchangeable lens options but really don't want to start a whole new system either.

Someone mentioned the Sony A6700 which looks great but is pricey and opens me up to GAS again lol.

I suppose the OM5 ii does give me everything I want but is based on old tech...I don't have to start a new mount collection however..could just get a grey 17 mm F1.8.

I have 4 x OM lenses and 3 x Z mount. So probably not as many as most in here lol
 
The reason I have replied is because I am looking for something similar. I think my advice would be the following:

- Forget IBIS
- Forget weather sealing
- Prioritise size & handling
- Don't be put off by old tech

One of the front runners in my search is the X100F; which both Lee and Raymond who have commented here use for this very purpose. It is incredibly capable. It can be had on ebay for around £700. It's an 8 year old camera.

I would concentrate your features on your main bodies (which you already have) and compromise for the EDC camera. IBIS, for example, adds both weight and girth to most cameras. I'm not sure I've ever really needed it. 'Weather sealing' is not a standardised concept in photography (none of the cameras we're discussing are IPS rated) and so how weather sealed some cameras are is up for some debate!

I'd concentrate almost entirely on handling. How comfortable it is to hold and carry, how light it is, whether it has EVF. Focus on the experience.
 
colourofsound said:
The reason I have replied is because I am looking for something similar. I think my advice would be the following:

- Forget IBIS
- Forget weather sealing
- Prioritise size & handling
- Don't be put off by old tech
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IMHO. Pretty much this.

I have an expensive camera with IBIS and is weather sealed and it has its place in my photography.

But my EDC and most used camera and the one I enjoy using most, is an older Fuji without either.
Comes with me everywhere in my work bag.
 
leaky5 said:
IMHO. Pretty much this.

I have an expensive camera with IBIS and is weather sealed and it has its place in my photography.

But my EDC and most used camera and the one I enjoy using most, is an older Fuji without either.
Comes with me everywhere in my work bag.
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I love the look of them but my word they are expensive lol
 
Get an X100 original for that retro feel. It'll be like £300 or so and has hit bottom in its value.
 
I've been following some reviews of the X-E1 and it seems a great little camera when fitted with a 23 or 27mm lens range - much cheaper.
 
Olympus make a "rugged" camera, cant remeber the model now, but it's waterproof, drop proof and can apparently cope with hot and cold?
Saw one somewhere recently for about £100, I was tempted myself, but "err indoors" was with me and I'll be murdered in my sleep if I buy any more gear... she finds out about... ;)
 
Ricoh GRiv is mine.
No weather sealing or evf but fits easily in my pocket and has an APS C sensor.
 
I like the Panasonic GX80 and 14mm f2.5.

Good luck choosing.
 
I have a Z6/Z50 and when I want to carry a smaller pocket camera I follow Woof Woof and use a GX80 14/20. I do have an LX100 as well which is a nice little setup.
 
Actually another camera which impressed me was the Panasonic G100. It's very small but I thought it had a lovely VF and the IQ was IMO good. There were two things which I didn't like, the usual built in lens corrections are missing and it lacks a second near top of camera control wheel and that last bit killed it for me, For anyone who can cope without two near top of camera dials I think it's worth a look.
 
The Ricoh cameras have a bit of a cult following, but not something I am after. No EVF, no tilting or rotating screen and I understand from watching a few vids and reading online, they can be susceptible to dust?? New one has some changes with lens and sensor to try and negate this, apparently.

Not sure I am going to get what I am after.

I had a Gx80 and traded that for the GX9. Even those on ebay / wex are like £300 - £400 now.

So wish I hadn't got shot of the GX9.

Hey ho, the search continues. I will head to WEX tomorrow and have a nose around.
 
The Fuji X100V is my EDC camera, even though it won't fit in jeans pockets... I do have the filter that completes the "weather sealing" but rarely use it. I was lucky enough to buy mine new at RRP, before the hype took off, but the flip side to Fuji prices being expensive is that they seem to hold their value.

Fuji do a free 48h loan service, for this sort of thing you can't beat using the camera for a few days and seeing how you get on with it.
 
benc98 said:
imo, unless you can fit it in your jeans pocket, then it isn't an every day carry camera. I can't see past a Ricoh GR series and at a push Fuji X 100 Series - or even a phone

I'm sure therre are other models that might fit in a jeans pocket..
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I agree with you but clearly there's different preferences and I think the OP's choice to go and look at cameras in the flesh is a good one to see what suits them.

With regards to the Ricoh GR cameras I did give serious thought to one but I was concerned on how second ones always seemed to be listed as having dust in them with vary degrees of impact which for the price of the camera just wasn't a risk I wanted to take.

I was curious what EDC meant in this context because I've only ever seen it used to mean Electronic Data Capture.
 
Just want to say thanks for all the responses to the thread.

Went to Wex

I tried the Ricoh GR IV ( I think that was the one). The Fuji MX5. The Fuji XE 5 and the OM5 ii.

Went with the OM5 ii.

For me, it's smaller and I can use my existing lenses on it. The only other one I would have considered was the Fuji XE5 with the 28 mm lens but it was £1499.

The OM 5 ii was £850 (after cashback) and has 5 year warranty.

Looking forward to getting my hands on it tomorrow.

Now need to decide if the Lumix 20 mm F1.7, Oly 17 mm F1.8 or PL 15 MM will be going on it (and I need to buy one of them).
 
One of the few occasions I agree with @AndrewFlannigan I had assumed EDC was a new brand I'd never heard of.

If size plus some functionality is required I'd look at M43 plus a pancake lens. OM5 is likely the right decision, I think.
 
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