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Hi all.

I have the above trigger and use this often at home usually paired with an AD200 the odd time I will use two lights the second being the Ad400.
So one on group A and the other on group B. Simple never had a problem.

This evening our camera club met up. The club as just purchased 2 AD200's one of the lads brought along an Ad100.
At first they set the lights up on group A, D & E not sure why but hey it's always chaotic :-)

The club trigger is the Godox Xpro and this had the A,B,C,D,E groups on the screen so all was good. Course a few of us, me included, have the Godox XT1c.
Which was only showing A,B,C. I have since searched the web as I know it can show the five groups but I can't find how to do it.

Fn 06 on the trigger is set to 5 so i'm thinking they should show on the lcd.

A video I seen on the web says it should be on Fn 07 but on mine it's Fn 06 you can choose 3 or 5.

Can anyone help with this please.

We got the club to use A,B,C groups but it would be good to know as i'm sure it will come up again.

Gaz
 
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Morning.

It's got to be user error.

I'll watch again.

Thanks for the help.


Gaz
 
I have an X2Tc and with it, just the scroll wheel will scan through the 5 group settings, if you haven't selected any specific group, The display lets you see 3 at a time, but all 5 groups by turning the scroll wheel. As I understand it, the only real difference between the X1Tc and X2Tc is the physical location of the buttons and wheel, so your X1T should work the same.. The inside electronics and program seems to be the same for both.

Just turn it on, and without selecting a group, try turning the scroll wheel. It should let you see and select all 5 groups. Once you press a group button, it highlights that group and allows adjustments. Press "Set" and you can then scroll to any other 3 of the 5 groups on the display again.

With an X Pro Transmitter, you can see 5 groups at a time, but the X Pro can be set to control 5 or 16 groups in the setup. When in the 16 groups mode, there are 2 buttons below the display that let you scan to see more groups, but only display 5 at a time on the display. A short press of the "TCM" button switches from displaying 5 groups at a time to displaying everything, including Zoom for just 1 group at a time on the whole display. A short press of "TCM" again and you are back to the 5 group at a time display.

I hope this helps. The manuals certainly don't. I now own three X Pro Transmitters (different versions for different brands of cameras), plus the X2Tc that I started with because the hot shoe on the top let me continue to use my old flash transmitter and flashes during the transition to all Godox/Flashpoint while I phased out my old flash equipment, which is now all gone, sold off cheap to another photographer.

Charley
 
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@CharleyL

Hi Charey.

Thanks for your detailed reply I very much appreciate it.

I have just sorted it with a combination of luck and the manual + the video above which I did actually watch last night .

The problem was I didnt have the letters GR showing on the lcd. I have no idea what that means other than the 5 groups then appear.

@Scooter

Thanks again.

Gaz
 
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Yeah there's some waffle in the Canon version of the manual about putting the trigger into "group mode" - and that Canon cameras before 2012 don't support this.. It's in pigeon English though and I couldn't make any sense of it either.
 
Sorry, I missed one setting in my previous post. Go to the "Menu" button and click on it. Then use the scroll wheel to skip down through the list until "Group" is highlighted. Press "Set" and then use the scroll wheel to choose 3 or 5 groups. Select 5 groups and then "Set" again. Then you can push the "menu" button again to get back to the main screen. If the scan wheel didn't show all 5 groups before, it will now.

The last time that I did anything with my X2Tc was about 6 months ago. I guess I've gotten a little rusty since then. After my post above, I was playing with the X2Tc and realized that I left this part out. Hope it didn't give anyone grief. Follow this along with the steps in my previous post and you should be good. Again, I am sorry if it gave you any trouble.

An X Pro has a similar selection in the mode selections, but the choices are 5 and 16 groups. The display shows 5 groups at a time, or pressing the "TCM" button for a short time lets you see only 1 group at a time on the display, but the print is larger. You can move up and down through the groups using the two center buttons below the display, or push "TCM" for a short time again and be back to seeing 5 groups at a time on the display with the same two center buttons just below the display to scan up or down through the groups, again seeing 5 groups at a time, but it might be "C" - "G" or similar on the display (5 at a time), and a short press of the "TCM" button will shift the display to showing just one group on the screen, but with larger print and full details including "Zoom" for that 1 group.

Another funny hitch in how this works. If 5 groups are selected, you will have TTL and zoom capability, but you seem to loose this when selecting 16 groups. A long press of the TCM button is supposed to send the recent TTL flash settings to the camera, so the camera is set what you achieved when using TTL for the previous shot, and you can then switch the camera to manual and you need to change nothing to continue with the same settings but in manual for the next photo. For whatever reason, I haven't been very successful with this, but I rarely even try to use TTL since most of my shooting lately has been in my studio and I don't take the camera out of manual mode. I use a light meter and set my lights and then just go with it.

Charley
 
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@CharleyL

Morning.

Nope you didn't cause me any bother, all advice is welcome.

Not sure on your thoughts as you have not long since joined the forum but in my time here this lighting section as been VERY VERY kind to me. So much help and support. It still amazes me how folk that you have never met can be so generous with there knowledge.

Back to the trigger. I am not techie at all so simples is best for me. I just use mine in manual all the time.

I am not sure if the X2Tc is differant but the Xt1c as an fn menu to selct 3 or 5 groups. Which I had selected but they did not show.

The solution was to :

Press and hold the mode button "5" seconds.

Display will show the letters GR to the right hand side of the lcd.

All 5 are then visible.

I only mention this just in case anyone else as this issue.

Thanks again for your help with this.


Gaz
 
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@Gaz,

Well, that may in fact be a significant programming difference between the X1T and X2T that I wasn't aware of. I've never owned an X1T, but did try out an X1T that a friend had, long enough to realize that I didn't like the positioning of the wheel and buttons on it. They just seemed to all be in the wrong place for how I work. Then the X2T came out and it solved all of my concerns regarding the positioning of the controls. I can use it easily while holding my camera with my right hand and use my left hand to make the X2T adjustments, and my hand doesn't block my view of the LCD screen as I do this like it did when trying to use the X1T. For other users and camera owners, this may not be a problem, but for me and my Canon camera, it was.

To see the D and E group settings on an X2T, all I need to do is rock the wheel one click left or right and it changes the display from ABC to DE or back. from DE to ABC. The wheel in an X1T is vertical and on the right. It is horizontal and on the bottom left in the X2T.

The other thing that I really like is the hot shoe lock on the X2T. It is not a wheel that gradually tightens, but a light gray button that you push and slide to the right or left. In the left position it is unlocked and in the right position it is locked tightly in place. I wish Godox had an upgrade option to add this to all of their transmitters as I would like to put it on all of my X Pro transmitters. Maybe someday, I guess. It just makes it so easy to remove the X2T from the camera to use when adjusting each light power setting while holding it in one hand while using the light meter in the other hand, then returning it to the camera quickly and easily when ready to start shooting. Of course, there is another way to go when using the X2T to change the groups and light power settings. The Godox App for cell phones can communicate with the X2T through Bluetooth to change the X2T settings without removing it from the camera. Then the X2T in turn changes the light settings through it's X system WIFI communication link. This works fine, but juggling my cell phone isn't as convenient as holding the X2T with one hand while also holding and adjusting my light meter with the other hand.

With a short sync cable with 2.5 mm plugs on the ends, the X2T it is supposed to be possible to trigger the camera from this cell phone App too, but it doesn't work with all cell phones, at least not yet. I tried it with my BLU Vivo + cell phone and this feature doesn't work for me and my phone. This was something new from Godox and the manual warns that it may not yet work with all cell phones. I don't know if this is part of an X1T either. The lighting controls from the App through the X2T to the lights does work very well, though.

Charley
 
CharleyL said:
Another funny hitch in how this works. If 5 groups are selected, you will have TTL and zoom capability, but you seem to loose this when selecting 16 groups. A long press of the TCM button is supposed to send the recent TTL flash settings to the camera, so the camera is set what you achieved when using TTL for the previous shot, and you can then switch the camera to manual and you need to change nothing to continue with the same settings but in manual for the next photo. For whatever reason, I haven't been very successful with this, but I rarely even try to use TTL since most of my shooting lately has been in my studio and I don't take the camera out of manual mode. I use a light meter and set my lights and then just go with it.
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The 16 group mode assumes studio flash heads (that don't typically support TTL or have zoomable tubes. Godox will introduce zoomable flash tubes on their next studio heads but I don't think they'll be motorized). When using this 16 group mode with studio heads you'll also want to alter the "step" to use stops rather than fractions of power (this is how most studio heads display the power on the back). In either mode, you can use the buttons down the left hand side to select groups, but these make the most sense in the 5 group mode.

The TCM button locks the flash power for each group from the last TTL shot. It does nothing to the camera settings. You can use TTL flash with the camera in manual. When happy with the flash exposure, you can lock it in with the TCM button.
 
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