Have Flickr gone mad ?

gramps said:
It actually needs one of a couple of options, either cull the 'dead' groups or reassign admin of them, as I am sure there would be willing people.

I think we are always at the whim of the provider in such large enterprises. :)
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I suppose I'm a bit anti big enterprises. One of the nice things about Glass, is that the owners are also members, and you can look at their photographs and directly contact them.

And if you pay the extra to become a "patron" (I think that is what its called) you can actively contribute to the decision making and take part in testing potential new features.
 
ancient_mariner said:
A frustrating aspect of Flickr is the unwillingness to offer a mid tier between free and pro, which is what most of us would want, I think. But the site has always been a bit flakey, sometimes being painfully slow or simply not working, and I've never felt confident with it to the point of believing it has a long term future. I did have a pro subscription for a couple of years, but just didn't feel there was value in renewal.
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I agree, if I could have paid a small amount to get rid of the adverts and delays that come with the free service, even if it was still only 1000 pictures, I would have never looked at Glass.
 
gramps said:
I see Glass are now doing a 25% off the 1st year. Might give it a try. :)
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I've just been reading this thread, had a look at Glass and saw the 25% so have signed up to the free trial and middle level ie 40 dollars becomes 30 for a year.
Ive have flickr pro for a couple of years now and only have 1300 ish photos there to be fair but dont feel like im really getting value for money from it really.

so for 30 dollars I'll run them side by side and see what happens next year.
 
Donnie said:
I've just been reading this thread, had a look at Glass and saw the 25% so have signed up to the free trial and middle level ie 40 dollars becomes 30 for a year.
Ive have flickr pro for a couple of years now and only have 1300 ish photos there to be fair but dont feel like im really getting value for money from it really.

so for 30 dollars I'll run them side by side and see what happens next year.
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It will be interesting to see how you get on. Although, I've had a Flikr account for years, I've never really used it much so not got a lot to compare against my Glass account, and I haven't really used that either- so far.
 
F1.2 said:
I looks like I am now logged out of Flickr
Option 1 £74 for one year
Option 2 £124 for 2 years

WOW what the hell :oops: :$ :eek:

Where else can I store the few images I have and how do I move them ?
Thanks in advance

This price is daylight robbery.
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Leave the Pro account to go back to the free one. They'll then give you the option of staying with Pro for the price that you paid last year. Fifty pound odd.
 
Harriers9 said:
Leave the Pro account to go back to the free one. They'll then give you the option of staying with Pro for the price that you paid last year. Fifty pound odd.
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Not necessarily I'm afraid. :(
 
Harriers9 said:
Leave the Pro account to go back to the free one. They'll then give you the option of staying with Pro for the price that you paid last year. Fifty pound odd.
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I didn't get an offer, and lapsed my pro account. As the service is degrading more to try to force users to paid accounts I think more will just leave.
 
I've also signed up. to Glass with the two-week trial and 25% off.
First impressions:

  • It's very different and takes longer to upload due to the information required e.g. Flickr takes on the photo title but Glass doesn't.
  • Upload seems to be limited to 10 photos at a time and each 10 has to have a Title, not sure if this works as an Album, or what.
  • Site looks clean and uncluttered but it means I have no idea of where I am going or what I can do or see.
 
gramps said:
I've also signed up. to Glass with the two-week trial and 25% off.
First impressions:

  • It's very different and takes longer to upload due to the information required e.g. Flickr takes on the photo title but Glass doesn't.
  • Upload seems to be limited to 10 photos at a time and each 10 has to have a Title, not sure if this works as an Album, or what.
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I hadn't noticed this, but with enough complaints these things might change. Improvements seem to have been a bit slow since I signed up, but it appears they have been completely rebuilding the backend.
gramps said:
  • Site looks clean and uncluttered but it means I have no idea of where I am going or what I can do or see.
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And, the icons don't have pop up hints letting you know what they do. There aren't many icons, so I assume with use it will become easier, butthere are few things that need tidying up. It gets better, but with oddities. e.g if you search on UK, and then click on the "beaches" sub tag, it seems to then ignore the UK bit, and just give you beaches from anywhere.

Once I've spent a bit more time with it, I plan on providing a list of areas where I think it can be improved.
 
gramps said:
Great idea. :)
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I wonder if we should set up a Glass,photo thread in the presentation forum to share feedback now that it looks like me and @EdinburghGary already have accounts, and you and @Donnie have just set up accounts. As well as feedback on using Glass, it could also be useful for any issues on sharing pictures hosted on Glass in TP

I'm not sure if we need permission to create a dedicated thread or whether I can just go ahead and create one, or indeed where would be the best place to create it. Maybe @ancient_mariner could advise.
 
ancient_mariner said:
I don't see why you couldn't just start a thread, probably in the talk computers, websites etc area. In many ways it would be just like a camera owners thread.

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Thanks Toni,

There are also a few things worth sharing: e.g how it seems impossible to find any help, pages which is hidden as FAQs, but then getting to the FAQs from browsing photographs seems impossible !
 
Brentor said:
No doubt a silly question, but what is the main point of Flickr?
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Right now for me it is following updates from a few select people in a better quality than frigging instagram and being able to search and find things which you cant do on Instagram. There is a point of self promotion but both me and the platform fell way behind there
 
I am considering what to do. What I want as someone who still regards myself as new to photography and not really very good is
- A place where I can share photos and collect them by theme, by photographer etc, follow others
- A place where I can be inspired by others photos
- A place where I can get appreciation for what is good and constructive suggestions for how I can improve
- A place where I can converse with others

Flickr is a pretty good place for those things but the groups are all a bit out of control which makes the conversation thing less good.
You can do all of the above apart from the first (really) on here. I know you can post photos in threads but that's not quite the same as viewing an online photo album
I have google photos but that's just a photo dump to back up stuff from my phone and my kids phones.

I am toying with either (a) renewing with Flickr and making a good attempt to find some groups / re-energise them; (b) try somethign else (e.g. Glass)
 
Brentor said:
No doubt a silly question, but what is the main point of Flickr?
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For my part I have been contributing to a project that is about establishing the age of churches based purely on the architecture and not the written documents that are often misleading. I take evidential photos, post them on flickr and the historical architects can browse them and discuss the buildings between themselves. They are not 'arty' photos. More like a scenes of crimes images. It is just a reliable medium for sharing images.
 
inquisitive_chap said:
You can do all of the above apart from the first (really) on here. I know you can post photos in threads but that's not quite the same as viewing an online photo album
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If you want critique on photos then it's much easier to do that on a small number - max 5 really - than on an album. We have previously had a strong culture of critical discussion of pictures here, with a view to helping people learn and grow, but that hasn't always been well received and now there tend to be a lot of 'likes' and less discussion. If you would like crit specifically then asking can help people feel more able to offer advice.
 
Most groups on Flickr are un-curated and thus a dog's dinner. Neither is Flickr as far as I've ever seen the place to receive crit - the prevailing culture is that any comments will be brief & positive - and many will be platitudes. And a 'fave' can only have merit if you know the work of the donor, otherwise its meaningless.

Flickr & Glass are essentially photo-sharing sites and little more.

Here, there is scope for discussion.
 
I left flickr many years ago when that stupid idiot woman took over who said there was no such thing as a professional photographer, went to Ipernity, a community owned group run by the members for members, it's international and may not be the most active site (you get out what you put in!) but it works, you can hotlink images in forums and make many friends globally. It's what flickr used to be in it's hayday and still friendly with a simple interface that shows your images, vids etc just as you want, not too expensive either for what it offers, prices are shown here https://www.ipernity.com/club , trial it free for three months, the more you interact the more you will get from it. Much more friendly than flickr and *according to the portal trusted.de, ipernity's service is among the seven best photo sharing services.

*from wickipedia
 
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AJ. said:
I left flickr many years ago when that stupid idiot woman took over who said there was no such thing as a professional photographer, went to Ipernity, a community owned group run by the members for members, it's international and may not be the most active site (you get out what you put in!) but it works, you can hotlink images in forums and make many friends globally. It's what flickr used to be in it's hayday and still friendly with a simple interface that shows your images, vids etc just as you want, not too expensive either for what it offers, prices are shown here https://www.ipernity.com/club , trial it free for three months, the more you interact the more you will get from it. Much more friendly than flickr and *according to the portal trusted.de, ipernity's service is among the seven best photo sharing services.

*from wickipedia
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Good lord it looks like it was built in 1998, upgraded in 2001 and left like that. Sorry, but I couldn't interact with that.
 
It’s a no brainer for me , I have thousands of images stored on flickr and circa 12 million views , yes the community aspect has gone but that’s more down to accessibility than anything else , as people these days tend to prefer faceberk for commenting
 
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It is possible to bulk download photos and reupload on a new site I think

But if it works for the needs people have, and people are happy with the price, then there is clearly no need to change

I quite like the 'look' of glass and it seems uncluttered (possibly at the expense of some functionality). I'm going to run them in parallel as was suggested above for a while

My Flickr pro expires in Jan but I have less than 1000 photos anyhow
 
inquisitive_chap said:
It is possible to bulk download photos and reupload on a new site I think

But if it works for the needs people have, and people are happy with the price, then there is clearly no need to change

I quite like the 'look' of glass and it seems uncluttered (possibly at the expense of some functionality). I'm going to run them in parallel as was suggested above for a while

My Flickr pro expires in Jan but I have less than 1000 photos anyhow
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You can download from Flickr - the site will produce a zip file for you.
So for example you can download album by album or all (subject to a maximum file size, you may have to do it in multiple files if you have 1000's),
 
F1.2 said:
I looks like I am now logged out of Flickr
Option 1 £74 for one year
Option 2 £124 for 2 years

WOW what the hell :oops: :$ :eek:

Where else can I store the few images I have and how do I move them ?
Thanks in advance

This price is daylight robbery.
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that is the issue with free hosting - at any point they can switch from free to paid and if there is over reliance then theres very little one can do
 
I was due to renew in a couple of weeks for £74. Went through the cancel sub link, clicked option that it was too expensive, got an immediate discount to £59.
 
I'm going to use whatever gives me a million amazing sparkly gold stars and the sun shines out of my backside comments.
This has to be for every single incredible photo I post, that sort of recognition is well worth fifty quid or so
 
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I bought Pro membership of Flickr for the first time last year, because I'd reached the 1000 upload limit. When I got the renewal email through this year I was pretty stunned at the jump up to £75...

I've got a few people following me on there and it's nice to receive likes, but I don't live for it or anything... I don't really use the groups because (as already mentioned) they mostly seem to be pretty dead, and I very rarely use it for sharing photos on here, I tend to just upload them from my phone. All in all it really feels like there's not much point in keeping my Pro membership. I think I might switch to Amazon, since I've got Prime membership already anyway, so in effect it'll be free.
 
Of interest to those who use Adobe, and something I didn't know.

You can link to photographs posted in Adobe's "My portfolio" webpages.

It's discussed and demonstrated in this forum post:

Adobe Portfolio - Easy but has limitations

Edit: as I discovered (see post #22) the method described has some limitations in the quality of your images especially those that are cropped. If you are going to use this method from Lightroom Desktop, I suggest you crop all your images in a destructive way (jpg, tiff) etc to 2560 on the long...
bcgforums.com bcgforums.com

For those unaware, an Adobe sub includes a personal website (My Portfolio) and you can manage and synch the photographs from Lightroom with the web site.

While not a replacement for the Social/community aspects of Flikr, it looks as if it would provide the tools to link high quality images to TP posts.
 
tijuana taxi said:
I'm going to use whatever gives me a million amazing sparkly gold stars and the sun shines out of my backside comments.
This has to be for every single incredible photo I post, that sort of recognition is well worth fifty quid or so
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Agree! Gotta pahy for that recognition, good things don't come without the little effort on our part :ROFLMAO:
 
skullfunkerry said:
I bought Pro membership of Flickr for the first time last year, because I'd reached the 1000 upload limit. When I got the renewal email through this year I was pretty stunned at the jump up to £75...

I've got a few people following me on there and it's nice to receive likes, but I don't live for it or anything... I don't really use the groups because (as already mentioned) they mostly seem to be pretty dead, and I very rarely use it for sharing photos on here, I tend to just upload them from my phone. All in all it really feels like there's not much point in keeping my Pro membership. I think I might switch to Amazon, since I've got Prime membership already anyway, so in effect it'll be free.
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Interestingly, I've learned something about my motivations this week... I was looking through my photos on Flickr and realised that I do actually like being able to put my shots somewhere that means people will see them. With Amazon I wouldn't get that, they'd just be stored for my own use.

I'm definitely not paying £75 for Flickr, so I've been thinking about glass.photo - one other option came up though, because I got a marketing email from them today: LightRocket. Anyone got any experience of them? The prices look pretty good, but it does seem like it might be aimed more at people looking to sell photos, rather than just put albums online:

photographers.lightrocket.com

Plans for All Types of Photographers - LightRocket

Join our free forever plan and get 5GB online storage, pro-grade photo management tools, the chance to connect with other photographers, and much more.
photographers.lightrocket.com photographers.lightrocket.com
 
skullfunkerry said:
Interestingly, I've learned something about my motivations this week... I was looking through my photos on Flickr and realised that I do actually like being able to put my shots somewhere that means people will see them. With Amazon I wouldn't get that, they'd just be stored for my own use.

I'm definitely not paying £75 for Flickr, so I've been thinking about glass.photo - one other option came up though, because I got a marketing email from them today: LightRocket. Anyone got any experience of them? The prices look pretty good, but it does seem like it might be aimed more at people looking to sell photos, rather than just put albums online:

photographers.lightrocket.com

Plans for All Types of Photographers - LightRocket

Join our free forever plan and get 5GB online storage, pro-grade photo management tools, the chance to connect with other photographers, and much more.
photographers.lightrocket.com photographers.lightrocket.com
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Looks like they are wanting to sell services to you as well and not sure how 'popular' it is.
 
gramps said:
Looks like they are wanting to sell services to you as well and not sure how 'popular' it is.
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That's my thinking too Gramps. If the overall price is okay I don't mind having services included that I don't use, but I don't want to have to spend time setting up things I don't need. I only had a really quick look before, I'll investigate it in more detail tomorrow.
 
skullfunkerry said:
That's my thinking too Gramps. If the overall price is okay I don't mind having services included that I don't use, but I don't want to have to spend time setting up things I don't need. I only had a really quick look before, I'll investigate it in more detail tomorrow.
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I was thinking more that they wanted to sell you extra services!
 
"Have Flickr gone mad ?" - yes, it have! In fact, we all have! We wouldn't be here, otherwise. Mad to be born, mad to live ... but the thing to cultivate is not a demented grin, but acceptance ...
 
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