Has Digital Photography made you a better Photographer?

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I've just been debating on another unrelated forum, that digital photography with it's immediacy of review, and reshoot if necessary, has made me better at capturing the shot that I want first time.

I had a couple of SLR cameras back in the day. But tbh the results were always dissapointing.

What's your thoughts on the matter?
 
I suppose having the option to view and reshoot to correct a shot rather having to wait for film to be develped is an obvious advantage.But also learning to use a film camera and perfect shots has its merits too.Hence why im using a film camera at moment and get to play now and then on a digi :).While waiting on film to get developed.
 
It's allowed me to be more experimental and adventurous with my shots. No real cost to trial and error, so in that respect, yes it has.

Not so sure i agree about the immediacy of views as the camera screen will often show an oof image as sharp due to its size.
 
Not so sure i agree about the immediacy of views as the camera screen will often show an oof image as sharp due to its size.

That's true, but for oversights like the lampost that you chose to ignore which is growing out of your models head, it has merit. :)
 
Not sure if it can make anyone a 'better photographer' as becoming a photographer has nothing to do with equipment but the ability to see a picture, use composition and read the light. However, I do believe that using digital can be a better teaching aid than film simply because of the fact that preview is instant, studio cameras with Polaroid backs were not used to show off, it gave the photographers the first safety net.

I think there is always a danger in discussing things like this that you open up the old argument that many people have that modern digital photographers just shoot away and hope something turns up on screen later. I seem to remember a similar argument against 35mm when the 'old school' accused the 'pop' photographers of the seventies of shooting hundreds of 35mm frames in the hope that by sheer force of numbers, a few must turn out OK. This argument was rubbish then as it is now.

I well remember in the 80s when I first started getting, or trying to get serious, about photography the sheer frustration of not seeing the images I had taken for, sometimes, days after the shoot. By this time my expectations of what I had hoped for mostly crashed when I finally saw the prints or slides. The time span also made the picture taking and the print viewing remote.

I remember the time when I virtually gave up on photography. I was not far from your neck of the woods Richpips, on the moors above Hathersage trying to get a good shot of Higger Tor with an Olympus OM1 and my favourite film TriX. The weather was bleak and the scenery matched it. I was exposing at 3200 ASA to get a good gritty feel to the pictures. Using a 24mm (I think) lens and getting low down to emphasise the bleakness and use the moorland grass as a foreground I shot what I felt was a good series.

Sadly, the next day after carefully processing the film and doing some test prints, I was once more gutted by the poor images I had. I could see from the prints what I thought I had done wrong but I was so disappointed, I didn't bother to go back and try again, the moment was lost.

Now I cannot be certain that if I had been shooting digital and viewing on the screen that I would have realised I was not getting what I thought but, I feel fairly confident that I may have. If so, this would have enabled me to change a few things and probably got nearer to what I had in my mind's eye.

To me the immediacy is one of the greatest assets and, coupled with the Histogram, I suffer less disappointment now than I did then. Does this make me a better photographer? Probably not but it does help me enjoy my hobby much more and I know I have more pictures to keep now than I did with film. I do miss my beloved TriX though, nothing can emulate the real quality of film grain.
 
I've just been debating on another unrelated forum, that digital photography with it's immediacy of review, and reshoot if necessary, has made me better at capturing the shot that I want first time.

I had a couple of SLR cameras back in the day. But tbh the results were always dissapointing.

What's your thoughts on the matter?

So what are you like with an SLR, now you can the stabilizers off ? :D

You'll have to give film a shot to know.
Some peeps freak out without a safety net, even pro's going back to film for the first time in years, gulp at the thought there'll be no preview...histogram...photoshop, 1000 shot storage, in some cases AF....metering....36 shots max, winding the film on would just tip em over the edge..:lol:
 
So what are you like with an SLR, now you can the stabilizers off ?

I've not given it a go.

I certainly wouldn't freak though I bet my success rate would fall, though not to the previous depths.

It'd be like driving my first car again, no syncromesh, heavy on fuel, 4 speed box, dodgy brakes.

Fun for the day but probably not one I'd return to for everyday use.
 
Why then do most academic photographic courses use 35mm film initially, surely it would save time and be more economical for them to demonstrate on digital.

There's a good reason, it reminds me of the guy who plastered my bathroom after a 4 week plastering course, he new what a trowel was, he could even get the plaster on the wall, could chuffers get it smooth though...:lol:
 
Why then do most academic photographic courses use 35mm film initially, surely it would save time and be more economical for them to demonstrate on digital.

Are we talking HND/degree level ?

Starting from first principals in any subject seems to be the way in academia.

The aim to give a thorough grounding in all aspects of a subject.

Then of course with the thorough grounding in (this scenario) photography, one goes off to work in construction management for the rest of their days.
 
Why then do most academic photographic courses use 35mm film initially, surely it would save time and be more economical for them to demonstrate on digital.

I should imagine there's a greater impetus to think about what you're doing when every press of the shutter release costs you money.
 
Hmmmm. I did some portraits for work this week using a couple of flash guns and no flash meter. I had to rely on a mix of viewing the image on screen and reviewing the histogram to check on the exposure. I couldn't of done that on a film camera.

I think the immediacy also helps drive you forward, so you get out and practice more, and therefore (hopefully) learn quicker.

Has it made me better ? I would have to say that it's probably advanced my skill level in a shorter time than if I was still shooting film.

Steve
 
I don't think digital makes you a "better" photographer, some people have a natural ability to "see" a great opportunity which other less gifted camera owners (myself definitely included) will miss.
As others have commented, the ability to see your results immediately and delete/recompose at will enables you to be a little more creative I think.

Now digital processing.............that's a different ball game.

The ability to manipulate what would otherwise be a fairly mediocre shot and turn it into something else totally different?
 
Thinking about it - I think it has.

I had my first film SLR when I was 13 (a Praktica somesuch) and I don't think I really learnt a damn thing about exposure other than when the two red arrows agreed it meant I'd got it 'right'. Likewise on my subsequent Ricoh and Nikon SLRs (taking us up to 2000).

Then after a gap I get a D40X and suddenly I can see what I'm doing - I don't have to remember - days or weeks after - what aperture and shutter combination I was using and I can start to see how the combinations of focal length, aperture, shutter speed and ISO come together ... and if I forget I can review the exif.

The problem for me is that everybody else seems to have got that much better as well!
 
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