Happy lane discipline day

ianp5a said:
I just see the problems people have today. Such as this OP. And many other worse situations. All caused by people either not being proficient enough, or not having any respect for other road users, and being dangerous b&stards.
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As already pointed out automated cars can also crash, the only difference in the number of deaths at the moment is the number of automated cars on the road at present. In fact with the number of automated cars on the road around the world at present and the number of them that have crashed, your odds of being in a crash are still better with someone behind the wheel driving.
At the recent Formula E race, part of the support was a race between 2 autonomous race cars, one crashed because it clipped a barrier as it took a bend too quick.
 
nilagin said:
your odds of being in a crash are still better with someone behind the wheel driving.
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Less not better don't encourage him :D
 
Cobra said:
Less not better don't encourage him :D
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And there's me normally picking you up on your posts. :D

Yes I meant less not better. ;)

Just the other day on the way to work, as I was about to leave the dual carriageway onto a two lane slip road, I find myself behind one of the all too frequent culprits that slows right at the last minute then indicates left to take the same slip road, except this one decides one lane isn't wide enough and straddles the dividing line, then starts wandering right and left as they make their way to the roundabout at the end. Don't get me started on the idiots on the roundabout that cut me up as they move to the left hand then indicate left only to carry on past my turn off and onto the next exit.
 
nilagin said:
And there's me normally picking you up on your posts. :D
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:D

nilagin said:
Don't get me started on the idiots on the roundabout...
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Considering how many roundabouts we have in MK it never ceases to amaze me the amount of people that don't know how to use them correctly!
 
foggy4ever said:
There's only one way to take a roundabout
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There's a couple of roundabouts constructed like that, here in MK. I must admit I've never seen a car fly over them, but I've seen a few parked on top, over the years,
I just can't imagine the speed they must have been doing to scale the "walls" of the roundabout.
 
You've also forgotten motorway mid-lane hoggers. Not as bad as stuff in OP, they are the cause of motorway congestion.

1. mid lane hogging car A
2. car B has to use 3rd lane to overtake (often pushing in at much too slow speed)
3. overtaking cars slam the brakes due to car B is slow to accelerate
4. ???
5. congestion 10 miles later


Cobra said:
The aggressive drivers will use this to their advantage, to "bully" the computer driven cars.
And still gain the "upper hand"
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You've demonstrated human is the problem. I'm all for the day when driverless cars become reality. I can't wait for the day when I'll be able to rent out my Model 3 like a Uber when I don't need it. :D
 
wuyanxu said:
You've also forgotten motorway mid-lane hoggers
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And of course not forgetting those that pull out of a slip road, assuming they have priority over on coming traffic,
Forcing people to either break sharply or switch lanes, who 9/10 do so without even checking its safe, they are as much of the problem as those that
pulled out initially. There are broken white lines across the acceleration lane for a reason.

wuyanxu said:
I'm all for the day when driverless cars become reality.
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But as above it'll be impossible to implement, think about the switch over people are suddenly going to give up their cars and replace them with robots,
at say midnight on a given day? ban motorbikes? and are people happy having a 44 tonne artic driving up and down various roads with no one in control?
It'll never happen, no matter how much the Utopiaist ( is that even a word) want it to.
 
Cobra said:
But as above it'll be impossible to implement, think about the switch over people are suddenly going to give up their cars and replace them with robots,
at say midnight on a given day? ban motorbikes? and are people happy having a 44 tonne artic driving up and down various roads with no one in control?
It'll never happen, no matter how much the Utopiaist ( is that even a word) want it to.
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Yes, the switch will never happen. But for most people, after a slow transition, a dedicated taxi of their own is highly desirable. The few will still drive, and often are the ones cutting across automated car.

Just like the horse carriages of old, they will be few. With more and more roads people cannot drive on, fewer and fewer will choose to manually drive.
 
wuyanxu said:
just like the horse carriages of old, they will be few. With more and more roads people cannot drive on, fewer and fewer will choose to manually drive.
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Now that makes more sense to me, rather than the Utopian view that we will all be sitting in robotic cars, by the year xxxx and I would envisage that it may well start with taxi's.
in major cities. But not so much normal cars, being banned from many roads, more like dedicated lanes. As with the bus and taxi lanes that we have now.
 
Cobra said:
To the driver on the large roundabout, yes I know there are 4 lanes going round it, but they are clearly marked as to which
exit they lead to. They are not marked like that for your entertainment, nor for you to swerve around slower moving vehicles that are braking for the light controlled exit.
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Try the Hardwick Roundabout if you want to see some poor driving, there seems to be at least one wrong-lane driver every time I go around it. Mind you, there's as many self-righteous twunts too, happy to gesture their displeasure because they don't understand that your lane is the right one for where you're going.

You can be in the correct lane for where you want to go and end up getting squeezed from both sides by the idiots (on the left because they're lost and don't realise you also take the A47 East exit to go West - as per the signs and road markings, on the right because they don't realise both lane are for the A10 - as per the signs and road markings). And that's before you get folk going straight across the traffic lights, even on green you need to check carefully to the right before proceeding. I've had cars from the right speed straight through a red light and pass between the vehicle in front and me as we're entering the roundabout on a green light.
 
Alastair said:
I've had cars from the right speed straight through a red light and pass between the vehicle in front and me as we're entering the roundabout on a green light.
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I've had the same at the same roundabout as the video of the BMW. I was the second car at around 5.30 am when a hgv with a cargo container came barreling through, luckily the wife screamed and I stopped in time.

Same roundabout earlier this week resulted in a death.View attachment 97003
 
wuyanxu said:
You've also forgotten motorway mid-lane hoggers. Not as bad as stuff in OP, they are the cause of motorway congestion.

1. mid lane hogging car A
2. car B has to use 3rd lane to overtake (often pushing in at much too slow speed)
3. overtaking cars slam the brakes due to car B is slow to accelerate
4. ???
5. congestion 10 miles later




You've demonstrated human is the problem. I'm all for the day when driverless cars become reality. I can't wait for the day when I'll be able to rent out my Model 3 like a Uber when I don't need it. :D
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I'll be f***ed if I'd spend all that money on a car, then hire it out for someone else to use, make a mess in, damage etc,
 
foggy4ever said:
Typical BMW driver exiting a local roundabout controlled by lights......video from my nephews civic.
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I bet the beemer driver felt a right t watt. :oops: :$
(nephews civic a Type R? )
 
OldCarlos said:
I bet the beemer driver felt a right t watt. :oops: :$
(nephews civic a Type R? )
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No a mapped 2.2 derv like mine 195bhp 325lb/ft, he arrived at the lights as they changed at a sedate speed(I've seen a longer clip) passing the stationary beemer who as the video showed his enthusiasm surpassed his skills and also got an ear bashing from his wife :D
 
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