Handing in my notice help

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i have been at my current employer now for less then a year i believe around start of may it would be exactly a year

it states in my contract that i have to give 1 weeks notice for every year i have worked there but i have not been there a full year

I'm handing my notice in on monday with the intention of my last working day been thursday (our week is monday to thursday 40 hours)

is this acceptable is there any issues that might arise , I'm guessing that as i have handed it in before my startting day it will be classed as 4 days ( working week)
 
You can't be intending to hand it in on Monday (your third sentence) and have already handed it in before your starting day (your fourth sentence). Something there doesn't add up.

/pedantic hat off


But your intention of handing it in on Monday and working out the week appears sound on the basis of the information you have provided. It would probably have been better to have handed it in last Thursday, but I can't see any reasonable employer quibbling over this. Of course, you may be leaving them because they're not a reasonable employer - but that's something only you can know.
 
o only found out i had got the job last friday but offices are not open and manager doesn't answer his phone

would it be acceptable to send this in via email and also hand in a copy on monday


does the rule apply for the weeks notice when i have not worked there a year yet
 
Alastair said:
You can't be intending to hand it in on Monday (your third sentence) and have already handed it in before your starting day (your fourth sentence). Something there doesn't add up.

/pedantic hat off


But your intention of handing it in on Monday and working out the week appears sound on the basis of the information you have provided. It would probably have been better to have handed it in last Thursday, but I can't see any reasonable employer quibbling over this. Of course, you may be leaving them because they're not a reasonable employer - but that's something only you can know.
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i was asking would it be acceptable to hand it in before shift would it then class the 1st day i.e. monday as 1 working day or would it be tuesday - tuesday as a working week
 
Yes, even within the first year the weeks notice is applicable. ..and frankly the decent thing to do.

If your working week is Mon-Thurs, then you really need to hand in your notice before your Monday shift begins.

If you hand it in during the course of the shift then strictly speaking (if they want to be arsey), they can say that your last working day be the following Monday.

In reality though, if your leaving is straightforward and not the result of some sort of bad blood, Monday should be fine.

My own personal feeling is that doing it via email is poor form.
 
viv1969 said:
Yes, even within the first year the weeks notice is applicable. ..and frankly the decent thing to do.

If your working week is Mon-Thurs, then you really need to hand in your notice before your Monday shift begins.

If you hand it in during the course of the shift then strictly speaking (if they want to be arsey), they can say that your last working day be the following Monday.

In reality though, if your leaving is straightforward and not the result of some sort of bad blood, Monday should be fine.

My own personal feeling is that doing it via email is poor form.
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thanks for all the help ill hand it monday and hope they say i can go thursday with out any issue what if they said i had to go the following monday but i didn't go in can they refuse to pay all my wages ???


i want to do this the correct way and walk out happy rather then annoyed
 
One little trick to use is confidence.
In your notice, simply state that your last working day will be Thursday. As above, unless there's some ill feeling they're unlikely to object.

They can't refuse to pay monies owed for hours worked, but they can drag their feet over it. Same with a P45...and emergency tax rate is a pain!
 
I'm due to be paid next friday so hoping there is not a issue he is a reasonable person so hope the company is , if not ill be in there office and refusing to leave until I'm paid lol i can be a pain in the back side when i want to be but i want to leave on good terms and that is the plan
 
viv1969 said:
If you hand it in during the course of the shift then strictly speaking (if they want to be arsey), they can say that your last working day be the following Monday.
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They can say it, but they can't do much about it when you don't turn up (apart from not paying you for the day you are not there).


Steve.
 
Dont waste your day worrying about it. Hand it in first thing tomorrow and see what happens.
 
just need to find a good template now so i can write them letter

so bloody nervous never had to do this before

i have had jobs where company close down , set on fire or no work any more never left due to change in circumstances
 
Dear Sir
I hereby submit one week's notice of my resignation and my final working day will be Thursday 16th April.
It's been great.
Regards
Alex
 
Hand it to your boss and maybe express that you hope it's acceptable as you start your new job the following Monday. No doubt you'll spend a few minutes working out whether he's glad to see the back of you while he's wishing you all the best, but it should do the trick ;)
 
new2me said:
Hand it to your boss and maybe express that you hope it's acceptable as you start your new job the following Monday. No doubt you'll spend a few minutes working out whether he's glad to see the back of you while he's wishing you all the best, but it should do the trick ;)
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kind of hoping he sends me home on gardening leave but i doubt it he will want me to work lol

fingers crossed it all goes well

imaging to play the dumb game saying I'm giving you 4 days notice which today is one isnt it lol
 
You could also drop an email today saying you want to see them before you start work on Monday, (say no more or why), then when you do meet you can hand in the notice, before your actual working day officially starts?
 
shreds said:
You could also drop an email today saying you want to see them before you start work on Monday, (say no more or why), then when you do meet you can hand in the notice, before your actual working day officially starts?
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that was my intention along them lines , long story but where i work is different department factory to the head office and head office would only contact him after i saw him any way i was just going to put it in so ateast they will have the notice today rather then monday
 
I think you will find that if Pay day is the 16th their accounts/wages department will already have sent the authority to the bank to make the payments?

I would not hand notice in by email though, just the request to meet, in case he is elsewhere tomorrow. That way you have started the ball rolling. If he isn't in then presumably there will be someone else who you could hand it to.

One week notice is generally applicable to contracts as a default under a year anyway.
 
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A simple letter as @new2me will be all that is required.

In terms of pay, they are entitled to pay you on the normal pay cycle so, if you would have next been paid on the 16th then they should pay you on that date. There is no justifiable reason for them to not pay you as "normal"

Importantly, keep everything polite and civil and you'll be fine.

Don't forget to get your P45 from them as well to make sure your new employee has your details - fortunately, as it is the start of the new tax year, your YTD income and tax will be negligible so shouldn't affect your future tax/NI payments.
 
wegotitugetit said:
if they are stubborn and don't want to pay me straight away can they legally do that when pay day is 16th and say they pay me 2 weeks later which would mess my bills up and cost me charges from my bank
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As long as they pay you in arrears and not ahead you should be ok. What I describe below is the normal practice for payment in arrears and I've never come across any business that pays monthly wages that does anything different.

If you get paid on 16th April for the hours you work in March you'd get your usual salary paid next week and next month (on 16th May) you'll get paid for the work you did in April up until the day you left plus any accrued holiday pay for holidays not taken.
 
wegotitugetit said:
ours works 2 weeks forward 2 weeks behind not sure how it will work exactly so at one point you are working 2 weeks already paid for bit odd how they work
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That is exceptionally odd, it's the first time I've come across anyone doing that. And it doesn't work in your favour as you''re handing in your notice on 13th with a payment due on 16th which the bank will already have received instruction for. My guess (and it is just a guess) is that they'll stop that payment ASAP on Monday morning and there's a very good chance you won't get paid until 23rd at the earliest. Or possibly the 16th of next month.
 
well if they going to mess my payments up then i won't be pleased i won't stay ill just walk if they not going to pay me till next month i need to ay bills this month and the way the other company work it will be almost 6 weeks befor they pay me
 
You can just tell them I quite and walk off there and then, they will then just deduct your notice days from any money owed to you but that's about all they can do. Contracts of employment are worthless bits of paper these days unenforceable by either party if one side decides they don't like something they agreed to at the start of that contract.

The firm my wife works for issues new contracts of employment every year allowing them to nibble away at everything they once agreed to.

If you want to just walk away.
 
Paul-H said:
If you want to just walk away.
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Have you used all your holidays up? If you don't give notice, they might be able to keep that in exchange for the notice period. I've never worked for anyone that paid in advance (apart from the day or so that RM do, but they are very odd :D)
 
What is wrong with the old fashioned way of telling them to "shove it were the sun don`t shine"........;)
 
new2me said:
Have you used all your holidays up? If you don't give notice, they might be able to keep that in exchange for the notice period. I've never worked for anyone that paid in advance (apart from the day or so that RM do, but they are very odd :D)
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yeah its april to april so non left doubt i have earned enough for this year as of yet lol
 
wegotitugetit said:
would love to do that especially the foreman except i would give him a good slap and probably more ha ha
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Better off not doing it that way then pal............:D
 
If you don't see yourself needing a reference from them in the future, and you are due to be paid up to date on the 16th, just slip away quietly and email them after saying you're not returning :)
 
Do the decent thing, as said above put in your notice as early as you can stating when your last day will be and be polite. You never know when you might need to go back to them for something (like a reference a year or two down the line when going for another job). If asked why, tell them it's more money, better chances of advancement etc.

It's highly unlikely they'll mess with your pay date, I'm pretty sure that would be illegal and most companies are glad to get you gone once you decide to leave.
 
Just reiterating what the other good advice has said. Never burn bridges, just that you are resigning and your last working day will be at the end of your working week thursday...date etc.
 
What was wrong with speaking to them and saying that you want to leave and ask how you go about it formally.
 
try to leave in good humour. You never know, you may need to return for a job or a reference if the new job does not work out.
Good references get you jobs, being a dick doesn't. :)
 
Many moons ago I attended a series of management training courses run by my employer, part of it was the legal aspects of being an employer and our head of HR and Legal was there doign Q&A.

The subject of notice periods came up and someone asked what the company would do if an employee refused to work their notice period. They said in all honesty, unless they were in a very senior position there would be no redress. For example, I have to give 12 weeks notice, the most the company could do is take me to court to demand 12 weeks money as compensation but it wouldn't be in their best insterests to do so and would probably cost them more in legal fees.

As others have said, the decent thing to do is hand it in ASAP, keep it as good natured as possible and state when your last day will be. It's then up to them to argue the toss if they wish.

Good luck :)
 
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