Haiti Photographs

RobH said:
Not at all, We've been pumping money into Africa for decades and the problem still exists. We have ex-service men sleeping rough cos they get NO help after serving their country, Haiti has been ran by incompetents for years, yet we have to jump in.

Rob.
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shame on you
 
i am with fracster and ROBH on this one, we have spent millions or should i say billions of pounds trying to help africa and yet there seems to be no difference, and as said i would rather buy a tramp a meal and it will make me feel like ive done something then donate to a natural disaster.

money wont solve what has happened in haiti, maybe the americans should use some of that money that keep up there arse and send in some supplies to give a bit of help. money is not needed all we pay for is the supplies to go haiti so yes we pay for the supplies and its not out of generosity.

gordon brown is a waste of space and never comes out his cave until needs be, next thing we know were gonna be run by conservatories (yes conservatives with a twist).
 
forgot to mention that apparantly more than 85% of charities actually dont give as much as you think they do. if you donated a £1.00 to a cause then what you'll notice actually only about 30p has gone for help and the rest to pay wages and bills etc.
 
mastertrinity said:
forgot to mention that apparantly more than 85% of charities actually dont give as much as you think they do. if you donated a £1.00 to a cause then what you'll notice actually only about 30p has gone for help and the rest to pay wages and bills etc.
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Link?

Should charities not pay bills or wages?
 
paulc said:
I have donated to the tradgedy only £3.00 via a collection at work but in all honesty I cant see that it is going to make any difference and it probably will end up in the equivilent of an Icelandic bank or just swelling the coffers of a designated charity.

After the Tsunami a few years ago alot of charities were critiscised for not spending thier donations...it just makes me wonder if it is another chance for charities to boost thier finances whilst appearing to be a knight in shining armour...roll on the fact finding holidays..sorry to sound sceptical and I DO care but when charities plead poverty whilst investing Millions upon millions in risky offshore establishments it smarts a bit to find that charity is big business.

I financially support cancer research and a local childrens charity..I care.
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i am also a donater of cancer research and childrens charities, these are the right charities to donate to. anything that can have a solution is worth donating whereas a naatural disaster doesnt go nowhere.
 
mastertrinity said:
i am also a donater of cancer research and childrens charities, these are the right charities to donate to. anything that can have a solution is worth donating whereas a naatural disaster doesnt go nowhere.
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You should have a look at how much Cancer Research UK and the NSPCC pay in wages, fundraising, advertising sometime.

mastertrinity said:
im not saying they cant but what peopel dont realise is alot of the money is for the charity themselves and not the people in need, i dont have a link because me and my dad had a discussion about it because he worked with a few charities and found out.
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It's not hard to find out how charities spend their money. If they're registered in England & Wales their accounts are available to view, for free, at the Charity Commission.
 
mastertrinity said:
money wont solve what has happened in haiti, maybe the americans should use some of that money that keep up there arse and send in some supplies to give a bit of help. money is not needed all we pay for is the supplies to go haiti so yes we pay for the supplies and its not out of generosity.
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I've read that three time now and I still can't make head nor tails of it :lol:
 
I'm confused MasterTrinity. It sounds like - You dont agree with digging into your own pocket and sending that to disaster stricken countries, yet you want the government and the American government to send money instead? Isn't that a case of double standards?

A curious little attack on Gordon Brown there - for which I see no relevance in this thread?

You want the American government to send money instead? the Americans dont look like they have a lot of money to really give. I guess you haven't seen the American national debt figures..

http://www.usdebtclock.org/

FITP - It took me a few times too.. I dont think he actually knows what he means. 2 or 3 times in the same sentence he changes his mind over whether money is needed or not in Haiti.
 
Carlm90 said:
Hi all,

I'm in the process of setting up a support website for the recent tragedy that has struck Haiti. I thought the forum may know where I could use some photographs of recent events that have happened there. The website is purely non-profit and my only aim is to help the awareness of what has happened and how people can help.

Thanks for your time,
Carl
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Hi Carl

I can't help you re photos but I congratulate you on trying to do something.

Ignore some of the posts on here and good luck :thumbs: :clap:

Al
 
mastertrinity said:
forgot to mention that apparantly more than 85% of charities actually dont give as much as you think they do. if you donated a £1.00 to a cause then what you'll notice actually only about 30p has gone for help and the rest to pay wages and bills etc.
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Charities have expenses just like any other organisation. It's not uncommon for charities to rely solely on donations so of course a significant proportion of the money given is going to go into funding the organisational infrastructure necessary to facilitate the support of whatever cause they're working towards.
 
what im trying to say is that if charities want money then it should be america that gives it them, i dont agree with giving money i would rather the uk and us give supplies instead but if its money the charity wants then its the americans to turn to.
 
mastertrinity said:
what im trying to say is that if charities want money then it should be america that gives it them, i dont agree with giving money i would rather the uk and us give supplies instead but if its money the charity wants then its the americans to turn to.
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And how do you pay for supplies:thinking:
 
Couple of comments here referring to Africa.....since when was Haiti part of Africa??

It's in the Caribbean........perhaps that'll make a difference with donations???
 
this is very tragic what has happened but do we need to put our own country first? as we ourselves are in a mess and we as a country need help perhaps not in the way these poor people do but in many diffrent ways just my opinion
 
what has African government got to do with Haiti?
 
shell said:
this is very tragic what has happened but do we need to put our own country first? as we ourselves are in a mess and we as a country need help perhaps not in the way these poor people do but in many diffrent ways just my opinion
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Yeah

We have dropped down to the 6th richest country in the world now.
Even France is richer than us!

Good luck to the OP
 
Suvv said:
Yeah

We have dropped down to the 6th richest country in the world now.
Even France is richer than us!

Good luck to the OP
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What a disaster, we are only the 6th richest!!! Oh no!!!

Absolute joke
 
Was a fund arranged for the people of Cockermouth?
 
Pretty simple really, if you want and feel like you would give these poor folk a couple of quid then great.. one beer less this week..

if you dont want to then dont ....

how has it caused such a debate on a tog forum ??
 
if a pc vs mac thread kicked up this much fuss it'd be locked by now.. ;)

if you want to donate then great, your money and no one can tell you what you can and cannot do with it.

if you dont want to donate then great, but for the love of god stick a sock in it as to your reasons why not. and yes there are too many soapboxes in here (class this rant as one too if you want).
 
fracster said elsewhere

Bloody hell guys,nobody is insisting that anybody has to help out.

The new section is good for beginners and some people will go in there and help out,if you don`t want to,all well and good.

I don`t see why it has to turn into a longwinded bloody argument.....:)
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Shame you couldn't have applied the same reasoning here.
 
Norseman said:
fracster said elsewhere



Shame you couldn't have applied the same reasoning here.
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Your point is?

Totally differing rationale.
 
this looks like another one to add to the list:
UK vs haiti
canon vs nikon
pc vs mac
ipod vs walkman

i cba now i have my own reasons for not wanting to donate and im sure others do, so yes at the end of the day donate if you want to, you dont have to.

as said elsewhere this is a tog forum not a G9 debate.
 
A real shame to see a small minority turn a thread like this into a public demonstration of personal shortcomings. :shake:
 
PhotoTalk said:
A real shame to see a small minority turn a thread like this into a public demonstration of personal shortcomings. :shake:
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How so?

How many who have commented have experience of working on the ground in areas like this?

Let me take a wild guess.Not so many.......:)

Ok, for those who feel so strongly about it,sell all your kit and give 75% of the income to the charities involved.

At least 65% will be milked here and on the way to the area intended,by the pirates,politicians,gang leaders and the people who make a living out of your generosity.

The people who need it will get less than 10%,that is the norm.
 
...so anyone got any photos? :lol:

I believe there is a lot of support around the Haiti disaster now and I get the feeling that my website will be a small fish in a big pond if I set it up to give people information. All the same, continue debating the world's riches :thinking:
 
Carlm90 said:
...so anyone got any photos? :lol:

I believe there is a lot of support around the Haiti disaster now and I get the feeling that my website will be a small fish in a big pond if I set it up to give people information. All the same, continue debating the world's riches :thinking:
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Its the little things that count Carl so please set it up! Sorry cant tell you how to find pictures :)
 
Not sure how I feel, especially since reading this thread :) I don't understand / have knowledge of the alleged corruption and / or shortcomings of the various charities. I do think "Charity starts at home" is a bit unfair. Yes, it starts at home - but I think we are in a much better state (short term!), than the poor buggers over their.

G.
 
It must be true, it is in a UK newspaper based on a US scource.................:lol:
 
PhotoTalk said:
Sorry Carl, but it was always unrealistic to expect people to have (or give) pictures of the disaster.

On another note, here is an interesting piece in the Guardian concerning Rush Limbaugh's response to the US appeal. Not too dissimilar to some of the arguments heard here...

http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2010/jan/15/haitians-donations-radio-rush-limbaugh
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I wouldnt take an opinion that comes out of Rush Limbaugh's mouth, he'll take any chance to attack Obama.
 
Just to get this straight for all the people saying charity begins at home and blah blah blah

nobody is saying send money to Haiti INSTEAD of here at home. They are saying IF you have any spare money after doing what you can here then help Haiti. Do it as well as at home IF you can afford to.

the charity at home argument is totally non valid
 
Suvv said:
Yeah

We have dropped down to the 6th richest country in the world now.
Even France is richer than us!

Good luck to the OP
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We're the 6th richest country in a world of 203. How hard a life we live!

Not sure where you found the statistic we're the 6th richest but the lists I found were of GDP per capita where the UK comes 22 as of 2008 compared to Haiti who ranked 151.

I understand the argument of charity starts at home and that not 100% of the money given reaches victims but regardless, it's the only means of helping available to the majority of people. Do you have no compassion for fellow man in a time of natural disaster?
 
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