Had my first anti-photographers 'run-in'....

[joescrivens]

there's two outcomes to the opinions shown in this thread:

1. Those of us with common sense when found in situations like this will have polite conversation and carry on doing our hobby

2. Those of us who want to defend our rights to the nth degree will get in arguments, stress, waste police time, possibly get into fights -just to fight the cause

I'm glad i'm in the first group of people

 

[John Doran]

When someone is stopped from going about their lawful business because he/she does not like it uses force to impose their will and the victim is blamed

No one is stopping you taking photos, just stopping you taking photos of them/their kids. What is wrong with a little bit of give and take??

 

[John Doran]

there's two outcomes to the opinions shown in this thread:

1. Those of us with common sense when found in situations like this will have polite conversation and carry on doing our hobby

2. Those of us who want to defend our rights to the nth degree will get in arguments, stress, waste police time, possibly get into fights -just to fight the cause

I'm glad i'm in the first group of people

Ditto.

 

[Islander]

How is it "the bullies have won"???

Sometimes I am actually saddened at the world we live in and that the "I know my rights" lot feel "bullied" by what? Common sense. FFS. Get a grip and stop throwing your lenses out the pram.

You're the one threatening people with a short sharp visit to A&E.

 

[Greywolf]

Politeness, good manners and reasonable behaviour are the lubricants of the machinery we call society.
Abrasiveness wears out the machinery.

In many of the situations I have read above, a reasonable conversation would probably have resolved the situation. Why would anyone want to involve the law as a first resort. Surely we each have a responsibility to keep the machinery of society well oiled and a resort to the law is really an admission of failure.

Mind you I have to admit that there are plenty of people who will have no understanding of what I have just written.

 

[John Doran]

You're the one threatening people with a short sharp visit to A&E.

Oh dear lord....

So... You are telling me that someone who harasses you, then gets arsey with you you aren't going to get upset? Really? Especially where kids are concerned?

I've had enough of this crap. Look, think and do what you like. The fact remains that one day, before long somebody somewhere is going to get knocked about for this reason.

Yes, I would give someone a piece of my mind if my kids had a prat constantly take photos of them without my consent. Especially if I had asked them to stop and they continue to do so.

I tell you what.... As with the other thread I left, I'll leave you fools to it. It's called conduct. I said I would send someone to A&E if they were an arse. Not for taking a photo. I said if the photographer in question didn't play ball ie:

Me: "Er... Sorry mate, but do you mind not taking pictures of my children as I don't know who you are and I'd rather you didn't old bean".

Prat: "Sod off mate, I know my rights so go take your kids elsewhere if you don't want em having photos taken"....

Do you follow yet????? Don't you understand that PEOPLE might NOT want their photos taken by a complete stranger?

Oh my god..... You lot are unbelievable.

#Mods. Please delete my account as I am ashamed to be on a forum with such idiotic morons who do not see common sense when it is blatantly obvious there is an issue here.

Seriously????? What planet are you on??? Please go off and do as you please.... But.... If someone approaches you who seems a little peed off about you taking your "pics", please bear in mind that one day, coming out with such crap as "I have a right to photograph whatever and whoever I please in public" may well land you with a camera stuffed somewhere unpleasant.

 

[joescrivens]

#Mods. Please delete my account as I am ashamed to be on a forum with such idiotic morons who do not see common sense when it is blatantly obvious there is an issue here.

you know you can just stop signing in if you dont want to be here, it's easy. Close the web browser and don't sign in again.

People are allowed to have a different opinion to you

 

[Bluehawk]

Well said Greywolf and joescrivens. I think me and John Doran are on your wavelength. ( If John doesn't mind me saying so). I'm sure loads of others are as well. Not sure about the rest though !
Still, there's nothing like friendly discourse, discussion and banter.

 

[paulminus273]

Can we have a whip round for the next tog who tells Gorilla man-bully with a low IQ, " I know my rights and I'm going to continue taking photographs of your child playing on the swings, for a photo competition, even though you have suggested that I don't".

Come on guys, you all know there are places in cities where you avoid going on your own at night. There are bullies lurking there, welcome to the real world.
Discretion is the better part of valour, so they say.

So as I said might is right
And self defence is a grey area in thus county, 18 month a 30 year male attacked me 5 hour in the nick before the police accepted my actions where self defence ( he was later convicted of assault)

 

[andya700]

No one is stopping you taking photos, just stopping you taking photos of them/their kids. What is wrong with a little bit of give and take??

Why is it then, that out of possibly tens of thousands of tourists taking pictures around Parliament Square, St Pauls, Trafalgar Square each day, that none are arrested?
There are undoubtably children present and possibly included in photographs, yet I have never heard of any complaints or anyone being arrested.
I suggest to you, that people who share your views, and have the power to wrongly enforce the law, only do so, when they feel that they can pick on a solitary person.
They probably feel more secure when the odds are in their favour.
Phil8139 posted an excellent piece, which eloquently sums up the situation today.
I feel that Paulminus293 is correct, when he asks why it is OK for "might to be right", or in so many cases - ignorance?

 

[Islander]

Oh dear lord....

So... You are telling me that someone who harasses you, then gets arsey with you you aren't going to get upset? Really? Especially where kids are concerned?

I've had enough of this crap. Look, think and do what you like. The fact remains that one day, before long somebody somewhere is going to get knocked about for this reason.

Yes, I would give someone a piece of my mind if my kids had a prat constantly take photos of them without my consent. Especially if I had asked them to stop and they continue to do so.

I tell you what.... As with the other thread I left, I'll leave you fools to it. It's called conduct. I said I would send someone to A&E if they were an arse. Not for taking a photo. I said if the photographer in question didn't play ball ie:

Me: "Er... Sorry mate, but do you mind not taking pictures of my children as I don't know who you are and I'd rather you didn't old bean".

Prat: "Sod off mate, I know my rights so go take your kids elsewhere if you don't want em having photos taken"....

Do you follow yet????? Don't you understand that PEOPLE might NOT want their photos taken by a complete stranger?

Oh my god..... You lot are unbelievable.

#Mods. Please delete my account as I am ashamed to be on a forum with such idiotic morons who do not see common sense when it is blatantly obvious there is an issue here.

Seriously????? What planet are you on??? Please go off and do as you please.... But.... If someone approaches you who seems a little peed off about you taking your "pics", please bear in mind that one day, coming out with such crap as "I have a right to photograph whatever and whoever I please in public" may well land you with a camera stuffed somewhere unpleasant.

If you honestly can't see the problem with reacting to a non-violent situation with violence then I'm afraid you're the one that's unbelievable. You were also the one that threatened a violent response.

You're not going to be much use to your kids when you're arrested for assault or worse.

Oh and resorting to personal attacks and insults? You lost the argument along with the plot there, I'm afraid

 

[Islander]

Politeness, good manners and reasonable behaviour are the lubricants of the machinery we call society.
Abrasiveness wears out the machinery.

In many of the situations I have read above, a reasonable conversation would probably have resolved the situation. Why would anyone want to involve the law as a first resort. Surely we each have a responsibility to keep the machinery of society well oiled and a resort to the law is really an admission of failure.

Mind you I have to admit that there are plenty of people who will have no understanding of what I have just written.

This is spot on - I'd add resort to abuse or violence as well.

 

[Matt]

any chance we can calm down a little? Im going to close this thread if you cant all be nice and rational

 

[Almost_Invisible]

Oh dear lord....

So... You are telling me that someone who harasses you, then gets arsey with you you aren't going to get upset? Really? Especially where kids are concerned?

I've had enough of this crap. Look, think and do what you like. The fact remains that one day, before long somebody somewhere is going to get knocked about for this reason.

Yes, I would give someone a piece of my mind if my kids had a prat constantly take photos of them without my consent. Especially if I had asked them to stop and they continue to do so.

I tell you what.... As with the other thread I left, I'll leave you fools to it. It's called conduct. I said I would send someone to A&E if they were an arse. Not for taking a photo. I said if the photographer in question didn't play ball ie:

Me: "Er... Sorry mate, but do you mind not taking pictures of my children as I don't know who you are and I'd rather you didn't old bean".

Prat: "Sod off mate, I know my rights so go take your kids elsewhere if you don't want em having photos taken"....

Do you follow yet????? Don't you understand that PEOPLE might NOT want their photos taken by a complete stranger?

Oh my god..... You lot are unbelievable.

#Mods. Please delete my account as I am ashamed to be on a forum with such idiotic morons who do not see common sense when it is blatantly obvious there is an issue here.

Seriously????? What planet are you on??? Please go off and do as you please.... But.... If someone approaches you who seems a little peed off about you taking your "pics", please bear in mind that one day, coming out with such crap as "I have a right to photograph whatever and whoever I please in public" may well land you with a camera stuffed somewhere unpleasant.

Just in case you have not exited the pram along with your dummy ... do you let family members take photos of your kids? Is it just strangers that are deemed paedos? I assume you know where I am going with this.
Also, be careful approaching togs assuming you can put them in A&E. Had someone do that once - they failed.

 

[Matt]

mind then doors then, unhappy at the level of t***tiness being displayed here in replies.