Gurkha's

I'm not surprised. It's just another example of the utter contempt this government shows the electorate. Nu-Labour are happy to let in millions of economic migrants and scroungers (not to mention, thugs, murderers, rapists and terrorists) yet prevent these people from living here. Pride, service and a love of this country means nothing to this morally bankrupt bunch of oiks that some of those amongst us were conned into voting in.
 
Absolutely disgraceful considering how they serve, fight and die for this country yet we don't even have the decency to treat them with a modicum of respect for what they have done.

Prime Minister Gordon Brown insisted that the new rules were fair

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During my military service I managed to serve out in Hong Kong prior to it being handed back to the Chinese. For the whole of that 3 year tour I served with the Gurkhas.

Like British soldiers, Gurkhas have to sign a contract when they serve like most people do in employment. What I am trying to say is that they knew what they were signing up for.

I look at the press and listen to how people portray the Gurkha soldier and many times they have me shaking my head at their perception, because 9 times out of 10 thats all it is, perception. How many of you here, posting on this thread have actually lived, breathed, worked and served with a Gurkha Regiment?

To portray them as some kind of uber loyal soldier to our Queen and country is quite far from reality. Does anyone remember the mutiny of a Battalion of Gurkhas on Hawaii, that wasn't that long ago? The whole Bn threw down their arms in a tantrum and refused to soldier on. Whist on my 3 year tour of duty virtually every Bn had a murder with all Bn members closing ranks and not giving information to any investigation. I had to replace so much of my personal kit through theft than anywhere else I have ever served

Unlike the British soldiers Gurkhas didnt pay for accommodation neither did they pay for food or electricity, admittedly their wages were not on par with what we earned but a Cpl in a Gurkha Bn was probably on more money and better benefits than the Nepalese Prime Minister.

The money they earned through trading in gold and gambling was immense and many of the Gurkhas I knew had a good old wedge. Part of the deal in signing up to the British Army was that they would serve then take there bounty and spend it in Nepal, helping to boost the Nepalese economy. Letting every Gurkha enter the UK on retirement will cripple the already weak economy in Nepal.

Good soldiers the majority of them are but I cant accept that they serve for queen and country, they serve for the life they have which is better than what they would have had as a hill farmer.

I dont want to come across as someone who dislikes Gurkhas because I dont, I am still to this day in contact with both lads who served by me. I just think the Gurkha has what he is entitled to, just as I am.

If we let every Nepalese man who served as a Gurkha into our country then the small villages and towns up in the hills of Nepal would disappear for ever. Nepal is like the 11th poorest country on earth, why should we rid them of their prize assets? The pensions the ex Gurkha receives would be better spent in Nepal than in the UK.
 
Ah I see, it's OK to use them in the colonial military forces but when they actually want to live in Britain that's another thing? Pathetic. Typical British Empire mentality. These people have done something to deserve being called British. Most of the people in this country have done nothing that warrants being called British other than being born here.
 
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However, I can kind of see your economic argument. Kind of.
 
During my military service I managed to serve out in Hong Kong prior to it being handed back to the Chinese. For the whole of that 3 year tour I served with the Gurkhas.

Like British soldiers, Gurkhas have to sign a contract when they serve like most people do in employment. What I am trying to say is that they knew what they were signing up for.

I look at the press and listen to how people portray the Gurkha soldier and many times they have me shaking my head at their perception, because 9 times out of 10 thats all it is, perception. How many of you here, posting on this thread have actually lived, breathed, worked and served with a Gurkha Regiment?

To portray them as some kind of uber loyal soldier to our Queen and country is quite far from reality. Does anyone remember the mutiny of a Battalion of Gurkhas on Hawaii, that wasn't that long ago? The whole Bn threw down their arms in a tantrum and refused to soldier on. Whist on my 3 year tour of duty virtually every Bn had a murder with all Bn members closing ranks and not giving information to any investigation. I had to replace so much of my personal kit through theft than anywhere else I have ever served

Unlike the British soldiers Gurkhas didnt pay for accommodation neither did they pay for food or electricity, admittedly their wages were not on par with what we earned but a Cpl in a Gurkha Bn was probably on more money and better benefits than the Nepalese Prime Minister.

The money they earned through trading in gold and gambling was immense and many of the Gurkhas I knew had a good old wedge. Part of the deal in signing up to the British Army was that they would serve then take there bounty and spend it in Nepal, helping to boost the Nepalese economy. Letting every Gurkha enter the UK on retirement will cripple the already weak economy in Nepal.

Good soldiers the majority of them are but I cant accept that they serve for queen and country, they serve for the life they have which is better than what they would have had as a hill farmer.

I dont want to come across as someone who dislikes Gurkhas because I dont, I am still to this day in contact with both lads who served by me. I just think the Gurkha has what he is entitled to, just as I am.

If we let every Nepalese man who served as a Gurkha into our country then the small villages and towns up in the hills of Nepal would disappear for ever. Nepal is like the 11th poorest country on earth, why should we rid them of their prize assets? The pensions the ex Gurkha receives would be better spent in Nepal than in the UK.

I appreciate you know much more about the Gurkha soldier from personal experience Quaker but at the end of the day these guys put their lives at risk for a far off country and when you look at the people who are allowed into Britain I think the Gurkha have a much greater right to be here
 
Captain Penguin wrote:-

"I appreciate you know much more about the Gurkha soldier from personal experience Quaker but at the end of the day these guys put their lives at risk for a far off country and when you look at the people who are allowed into Britain I think the Gurkha have a much greater right to be here."

Yes, and they can be trusted to be loyal and patriotic to this country unlike some others who have been allowed to reside here and clearly hate us.
 
If anyone ever gets the chance to visit Catterick garrison you will se a group of young men all dressed very sharp in grey trousers, white shirts and dark blue jackets all walking in perfect symetry on the streets you cant miss them there are quite a lot.
If you are walking towards them they will simply stop and move aside for you and politely say hello with a cheerfull smile.
These young men are immaculate in their appearance and manners

The army uses these men then simply toss them aside once they have served their purpose, I rate the British military in the highest regard but surely its time something was done to repay these brave fighting men

Pete
 
I worked with the Ghurka band (who are infantry men selected for musical training) for 3 months in Cyprus in 2005, as well as training with 4 of them for a year. I also lived with the Ghurka demo company at Sandhurst for 10 weeks last year. They're polite, friendly, loyal and as far as I'm concerned trustworthy. They'd never fail to say good morning, and whilst training with them they never failed to offer anyone they saw to eat the curry they cook up with them. They more friendly than most of the infantrymen I've met in the past. I can see the economic argument, but these guys serve the same way the rest of the Army do, and to echo points already raised they've done more to deserve to live here than a great deal of other people.
 
During my military service I managed to serve out in Hong Kong prior to it being handed back to the - snip -

And yet soldiers from other countries who have served just four years (I think) in HM Forces are allowed to stay here. Yet the Gurkhas must complete 20 years before being granted that 'privilege'. Despite the fact that Gurkha riflemen only serve 15 years!!!!!! If this labour government don't want something to happen then they simply write the criteria to ensure that all possible cases are excluded. They need locking up - ministers not Gurkhas.
 
I can see the arguments for them being mercenaries and knowing what they sign up for etc. but to my mind it's only common decency to offer someone who serves and puts their life 'on the line' the option to accept citizenship with all the rights that implies.

Compared to other ethnic communities who are allowed to immigrate there are really pretty few Gurkha even including their families.
 
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