Grainery - a new photo-sharing site for analog photographers

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I've seen a few YouTube videos pop up about this recently so decided to take a look.


It's an Instagram-style photo sharing website, but just for photographs made using analog methods. It doesn't crop images like Instagram does, which is nice, and the interface is clean and straightforward to use. You add details of the camera, lens, and film for each picture that is uploaded so it's easy to search out photos using the same equipment should you want to.

I've started to put a few of my photos on there, so will see how I get on.
 
I'm on there too. I agree it has benefits over instagram. However one issue it has in common with instagram is that you can't get anything approaching a full-screen view of the image (on a PC). Flickr has an advantage in that regard.

Oh yes, I agree - it's the same reason I favour Flickr too - I like to see a picture full size. It's nice to have a good analog-focused site though (although I guess you could argue that Reddit has such groups already, albeit perhaps not as pretty).
 
I created an account and logged on briefly. I need to monitor the site, so far few images are jumping out and embracing me.
 
Just for clarity, is it a website or an app? Or maybe even both? ‍
 
Just for clarity, is it a website or an app? Or maybe even both? ‍

Just a website at the moment, although an app might be coming later. An app would be OK for looking at film photos but, for me at least a PITA to post them from. It's one of the reasons I stopped using Instagram - uploading photos from my computer was a chore.
 
So you have to register to see pics?
 
Looks like it. I just created an account, but haven't yet found my way to photos...
 
I too am on Grainery, and while I like the idea behind the platform, the lack of algorithm, and a few other bits, I have to say, so far it's either a sea of 'America cars under cover shot on portra', or edgy portraits. Purely for the sake of variety it would be nice if people other than hipsters were on there too! :LOL::LOL:
 
I too am on Grainery, and while I like the idea behind the platform, the lack of algorithm, and a few other bits, I have to say, so far it's either a sea of 'America cars under cover shot on portra', or edgy portraits. Purely for the sake of variety it would be nice if people other than hipsters were on there too! :LOL::LOL:
I’m definitely more of a grumpy old git than a hipster
 
One suggestion to help us promote the best place to discuss photography and find shots by our mates here is to add the hashtag #talkphotography to our posts on other sharing sites. Tagged mine on there but is taking a while for the tag to appear in their database.

<edit> Until it gets added to database can still search for #talkphotography by going to one of your own shots with that hashtag and clicking on the tag - so can see @TheBigYin has done this too </edit>
 
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I made an account a while ago when it last came up (maybe on twitter). AFAICR I saw relatively few photos; maybe you only see photos from people you follow, so if they don't add new ones you don't see any. I guess flickr works that way, too. These kinds of sites need a certain amount of activity in your circles of interest for the network effects to begin to work.

I'm on as rusbridge25 for some obscure reason (probably ChrisR was already taken!). I've followed everyone mentioned here. Appears I have put up at least one photo, those potato furrows!
 
One suggestion to help us promote the best place to discuss photography and find shots by our mates here is to add the hashtag #talkphotography to our posts on other sharing sites. Tagged mine on there but is taking a while for the tag to appear in their database.

<edit> Until it gets added to database can still search for #talkphotography by going to one of your own shots with that hashtag and clicking on the tag - so can see @TheBigYin has done this too </edit>
I added the hashtag, but when clicking on one in Mark's photo, mine didn't show up, so I guess it takes time!
 
I added the hashtag, but when clicking on one in Mark's photo, mine didn't show up, so I guess it takes time!

Two things about the Grainery hashtag window when entering on upload or on later edits. Have to add the #, unlike Flickr and some other sites. Secondly it seems to require a space after the final hashtag as well as between others. Update button also seems to be slow to operate.
 
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I made an account a while ago when it last came up (maybe on twitter). AFAICR I saw relatively few photos; maybe you only see photos from people you follow, so if they don't add new ones you don't see any. I guess flickr works that way, too. These kinds of sites need a certain amount of activity in your circles of interest for the network effects to begin to work.
I believe the home button will show you photos from people you follow (and the creator of the site, who I assume you automatically follow when you sign up). The binoculars button shows photos added recently by anyone.
 
There appears to be a way to send messages to a group (not just an individual) but I couldn't find a way to create a group (eg TPFC...).
 
Gonna show my prejudices a bit here...

So, apart from the inestimable TP (which as a contact of mine pointed out, doesn't support full screen images), we have the big 3: farcebook, instagrunt (I don't do either of these) and t***ter. All have their problems for photos. More recently we have Glass emerging, looking for a place; Vero has been around for ages but is having a teensy revival, and now Grainery (which is at least aimed at our particular community). And behind and (maybe) above all these (with its own problems) is flickr.

The first thought I've had is, no way could I keep up with posting to even half of these. At the moment, I'm posting images mainly to twitter (carusb). I have an ongoing thread "at least one image per roll of film", but because twitter doesn't really matter I'm often posting half a dozen images per roll, and this means I can post pretty much one a day, and still not catch up. Which is a good thing, because it takes me weeks to process a roll physically, scan it, post process and keyword it, and make selections on what's reasonable. The "one a day" format gives a tiny boost of approval, I guess, from the 2 or 3 people who do like them, which is sufficient reward to keep posting them. But that seems to use up most of my motivation to post, so I've been neglecting posting in the "Show us yer..." thread, or flickr. No way could I post even the better ones to even more platforms on a regular basis. The only way that would work would be to have some sort of auto posting mechanism, and you have to have a Pro account for that to work on flickr (AFAIK).

BTW Film Twitter is actually quite good. Not a many on here are active (@dmb is the main one I've seen, plus occasional posts from @RaglanSurf ). If you try the hashtags #filmphotography, #filmisnotdead, #believeinfilm etc, you should find some interesting people. As an example, I've found out a lot about trichromes, which have occasionally surfaced on here, but are showing up some very interesting effects when coupled with long exposure (eg pinholes) and subject movement (eg clouds, shadows). Also, there's a lot about pinhole there, and panos, including pinhole panos! And someone persuaded me to try HP5 in HC110 dilution E rather than B...

One thing I find mysterious is when a post shows up with (say) 30 replies, and I can only see a few of them. I get that some might be "private" posts visible only to sender and a small group, but I don't think that's very common. And the replies are from a wider group than those I follow. I assume "the algorithm" declines to show them to me, which is a PITA.

An advantage of film twitter (as here) is that it's active, so there's always something interesting happening. And it's worldwide, so I'm interacting with filmies from UK, Europe (!), US, Australia, New Zealand, Japan, Hong Kong... that is really something interesting. And there seems to be little of the usual twitter unpleasantness in the Film Twitter bit, and easily dealt with by block or mute (eg anyone with .eth in their username is an automatic block for me, and I have Nasty Flaming Things reasonably well muted).

I do have a FB account but each time I open it (usually around the time of my "official birthday") I'm completely baffled by it. I cancelled my IG account as uploading photos was too hard (don't have these sort of photos on my phone), and by all accounts it's abandoning stills.

So, flickr. I'm getting a bit of activity round my images there now, which is nice. But the social aspect seems very weak. There's rarely a useful "conversation" in image comments. The discussion in Groups is quite sporadic; many of the Groups I belong to have "last posted" messages from a year or more ago. I can't see a usable way of getting an "un-threaded" feed from those groups (so the "social" aspect is fragmented into dozens of tiny separate areas). And several Groups seem to have weird (but maybe necessary) limits on the amounts you can post at any time. I started using it mainly as a host for images posted on TP, after PhotoBucket went all weird (still get daily threatening emails from them, BTW!), but as mentioned, it's getting a bit more useful to me. And if I put camera, lens, film and dev details in keywords in C1Pro, they do turn up on flickr, which is nice.

It's certainly really good to be able to see images on flickr in Large (even if that's a 16" screen for me!). Better than anything else that way, AFAIK.

Glass and Vero, I don't know much about.

So, back to Grainery. I do wish it well. I'm unclear about the social aspects, and it needs a lot more traction before the network effects really begin to show. Image display size is limited. And I can't see any way it would support a question like "what really IS the best dev time for Tri-X in HC-110B?". So, it's probably one destination too many for me.

So TPFC remains one of my favourite social venues. Mainly because you lot are such fun to chat with, such a fount of knowledge, and we can (or could) occasionally meet up In Real Life. So, thank you all.
 
Like you Chris I am baffled by many of the social media/hosting sites/apps. I can navigate Flickr, FaceSpace and this venerable forum but the rest of them, Twitter and IG just confuse the hell out of me, I do occasionally post on Twitter but I have no idea if anyone hears me or if they do they seem to care enough to respond.
I will give Grainery a go but at the moment I’m not quite sure what it’s for ?
 
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So, apart from the inestimable TP (which as a contact of mine pointed out, doesn't support full screen images),
2 reasons
1) server hosting costs.
2) many people are still on very slow internet connections ( granted, not as many as they were when the file sizes were introduced)
and we don't wan't to alienate people on slow connections that have to wait half an hour for the images to load.

Of course the option is there to link back to the likes of Flickr, where you can display the image at what ever size you want :)
 
2 reasons
1) server hosting costs.
2) many people are still on very slow internet connections ( granted, not as many as they were when the file sizes were introduced)
and we don't wan't to alienate people on slow connections that have to wait half an hour for the images to load.

Of course the option is there to link back to the likes of Flickr, where you can display the image at what ever size you want :)
Oh yes, I don't disagree with the decision at all, it was just brought home to me recently by someone I pointed at a thread of old photos of Thessaloniki. Matter more to some folk than to me. But it can be a factor in thinking about which social photo site people use, I guess.

For me, better chat is much more important than better image sizes!
 
Oh yes, I don't disagree with the decision at all,
I realised you weren't complaining, I was just offering the reasoning behind it :)


But it can be a factor in thinking about which social photo site people use, I guess.
I'm sure you are right.
 
TP is the only photo sharing site I use. I don't do social media, except for a couple of private Whatsapp groups with family and friends. For example, I couldn't be asked to keep up with Facebook like Z (Mrs. S.) does, a frightening amount of unadulterated cr*p. So before I get into a full scale rant I'll shut my mouth.

TP, F&C is pure gold though..
 
So, flickr. I'm getting a bit of activity round my images there now, which is nice. But the social aspect seems very weak. There's rarely a useful "conversation" in image comments. The discussion in Groups is quite sporadic; many of the Groups I belong to have "last posted" messages from a year or more ago. I can't see a usable way of getting an "un-threaded" feed from those groups (so the "social" aspect is fragmented into dozens of tiny separate areas). And several Groups seem to have weird (but maybe necessary) limits on the amounts you can post at any time.

Personally, Flickr is all I need. Not sure about any social aspect or absence of it, to be honest. I am not sharing my photos on there to start long technical discussions on developers, and exposure or cameras etc. I'm there to enjoy some great composition/ideas in silence. Forums (such as this one, or Photrio) are much better for discussion.

As for the group restrictions, I am in favour of them. I only subscribe to, or moderate, groups with a 1 photo per day limit or less. It really helps creating diversity, stimulating people to be critical by selecting content they really like before sharing, and so on.

Anti-social media Flickr - long may it survive.
 
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Well I've just joined and not sure what the site is for e.g. can I link shots to TP or is it just a site for storing shots for people to see from around the world. For me I'd rather post shots on TP ......I've been using imgur for years and upload shots to TP and it's free.
 
Well I've just joined and not sure what the site is for e.g. can I link shots to TP or is it just a site for storing shots for people to see from around the world. For me I'd rather post shots on TP ......I've been using imgur for years and upload shots to TP and it's free.

I think it's more about sharing your photography rather than storage - the displayed image size on the site is limited, so it won't show full detail (especially larger format images). I've also discovered that (in the beta version, at least) that you are limited to uploading just a smallish number of pictures unless you subscribe. While I hope the site is successful, I've no interest in paying a subscription just for a social media experience. I already subscribe to Flickr for a Pro account, but that is mostly because it allows me unlimited storage. Plus Flickr allows for full resolution images.
 
Hmmm, looks like @Woodsy is the only one who has kept up with posting on Grainery for a bit, with several nice photos from 2 months ago. Another nice idea that hasn't really gained traction, I guess.
 
Very kind of you to say to @ChrisR :). TBH I am likely not going to be posting on there any more. As much as I have mixed feelings about instagram, it's where a lot of the people I follow post (and perhaps Vero), so I'll probably stop with grainery soon enough. It started off as such a nice idea, but - and this is purely my opinion - it just feels like it's mainly the hipsters that post on there now.
 
I find Grainery useful for searching via film stock or camera type as these must be added when uploading a pic.

I find it less demading than Flickr, whilst all the groups that insist you fave 3 comment 2 post 1 etc. get a bit tiring.
 
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