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I popped down to Manchester Airport to take some shots for a local news agency, and was taking some from a public road, through the fence, of an American Airlines aircraft being de-iced. I'd just packed up to go to the terminals and one of the dispatchers came up to the fence and asked under what authority I was taking pictures....

....Don't have a press card but showed my football media pass and he was just like 'so that's media then is it?' I could have shown him my bank card and he wouldn't have known the difference :p

Then had a quick chat with him about how long the airport had been closed, when it reopened, and all was well.... not an arsey policeman in sight and I got some useful info. Probably could have educated him on the matter but hey ho... Just thought I'd share my first terrorist related incident!

Job done :thumbs:
 
Glad you had a "good" experience then! :D I guess they all have jobs to do, lucky the guy was quite friendly about it.

Vicky.
 
You mean you were polite and courteous and answered his questions, and you got to go about your business?

Surely not! :lol:
 
Good work and thanks for posting. Not often we hear the positive side!

Simmotino said:
You mean you were polite and courteous and answered his questions, and you got to go about your business?

Surely not! :lol:
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I know, who would have thought it eh?! :lol:
 
Vic said:
Glad you had a "good" experience then! :D I guess they all have jobs to do, lucky the guy was quite friendly about it.
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Simmotino said:
You mean you were polite and courteous and answered his questions, and you got to go about your business?

Surely not! :lol:
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strange that these things tend to go hand in hand really...
 
Should have made a run for it as soon as he headed towards you. Wonder what would have happened then :lol:
 
CGeezer said:
Should have made a run for it as soon as he headed towards you. Wonder what would have happened then :lol:
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You'd probably have been receiving an invite to my funeral after he got GMP's finest marksmen to pop a couple in me as I fled ;)
 
purpleclouds said:
I popped down to Manchester Airport to take some shots for a local news agency, and was taking some from a public road, through the fence, of an American Airlines aircraft being de-iced. I'd just packed up to go to the terminals and one of the dispatchers came up to the fence and asked under what authority I was taking pictures....
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airports are probably 1 of the relatively few areas where this is legitimate - they are often private ground (yes, even outside the fence) & of course they are a proven terrorist target.
However, at least up here airport police etc. are quite civil & after they've had a quick chat to check you out will leave you alone.
 
there is a nice pub there where you can take shots of planes from the childrens playground
they are usually landing though..

standing at a fence must have looked a bit strange...
 
mrcrow said:
there is a nice pub there where you can take shots of planes from the childrens playground
they are usually landing though..

standing at a fence must have looked a bit strange...
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There was another chap, with a 350D and kit lens stood about 15ft from me :shrug: Think he'd left by the time the chap came up to me though! The fence is along quite a well used pavement so didn't look out of place!

Not to worry though... got one of the shots on the Daily Mail website :D Clicky
 
If your outside the airport parimeter then the dispatchers have no right to question, I think I would have asked under whose authority they had the right to ask any questions at all.

Just another case of "Jobs Worth". Seems to me that give anyone a uniform and a badge,to remind them who they are incase they forget, and to make sure they don't forget they have to hang it around their neck, think they rule everything and everyone. There are far too many petty officials trying to throw their weight around and look big and important, and this is just one more case. I have openly taken photos of aircraft taking off and landing whilst waiting in departure lounges and never had anyone querying what I was doing, also taken photos of airport building without question from same type of places, as many other passangers doing the same thing

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Just one example before editing
Bazza
 
realspeed said:
If your outside the airport parimeter then the dispatchers have no right to question, I think I would have asked under whose authority they had the right to ask any questions at all.
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No one needs any authority to just ask questions. You don't have to answer though.



Steve.
 
realspeed said:
Seems to me that give anyone a uniform and a badge,to remind them who they are incase they forget, and to make sure they don't forget they have to hang it around their neck, think they rule everything and everyone. There are far too many petty officials trying to throw their weight around and look big and important, and this is just one more case.
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realspeed said:
I have openly taken photos of aircraft taking off and landing whilst waiting in departure lounges and never had anyone querying what I was doing
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The latter is quite a feat given the statement in the former about there being far too many!

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realspeed said:
If your outside the airport parimeter then the dispatchers have no right to question, I think I would have asked under whose authority they had the right to ask any questions at all.

Just another case of "Jobs Worth". Seems to me that give anyone a uniform and a badge,to remind them who they are incase they forget, and to make sure they don't forget they have to hang it around their neck, think they rule everything and everyone. There are far too many petty officials trying to throw their weight around and look big and important, and this is just one more case.
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They have every right to question you - you have every right not to answer.
I work for an airline and everyone that works for an airline or at the airport has to be 'trained' on identifying potential security threats.
Ideally though if he thought you were acting suspiciously he should have reported it to the correct authority rather than try to deal with it himself.
At the end of the day if you were a terrorist he would no doubt be dead now!
 
purpleclouds said:
There was another chap, with a 350D and kit lens stood about 15ft from me :shrug: Think he'd left by the time the chap came up to me though! The fence is along quite a well used pavement so didn't look out of place!

Not to worry though... got one of the shots on the Daily Mail website :D Clicky
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i see they got the girl from the AA there just in case it dont start :lol:
 
realspeed said:
If your outside the airport parimeter then the dispatchers have no right to question, I think I would have asked under whose authority they had the right to ask any questions at all.
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Why would you be such an arse to someone who is just asking a question?

Just another case of "Jobs Worth". Seems to me that give anyone a uniform and a badge,to remind them who they are incase they forget, and to make sure they don't forget they have to hang it around their neck, think they rule everything and everyone. There are far too many petty officials trying to throw their weight around and look big and important, and this is just one more case. I have openly taken photos of aircraft taking off and landing whilst waiting in departure lounges and never had anyone querying what I was doing, also taken photos of airport building without question from same type of places, as many other passangers doing the same thing
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Might be worth having a read up what a dispatcher is then eh? You clearly have an axe to grind with folks in the security industry but that is no excuse to be downright offensive.
 
Whats the big problem with someone asking security questions....?

If you're doing nowt, then you're okay right?
 
realspeed said:
If your outside the airport parimeter then the dispatchers have no right to question, I think I would have asked under whose authority they had the right to ask any questions at all.

Just another case of "Jobs Worth". Seems to me that give anyone a uniform and a badge,to remind them who they are incase they forget, and to make sure they don't forget they have to hang it around their neck, think they rule everything and everyone......
Bazza
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completely disagree....:thumbsdown:

at an airport..a place of likely mischief, the only point where you can't get close and would need a long lens to see anything of merit...and a chap wandered over, inquired politely (probs told to by his boss). a civil exchange took place, and everyone carried on.

Kudos for the airport for looking into this.
very well done to the photographer for dealing with this in a polite fashion and getting the photos into the press.

nothing wrong with this encounter. :clap:
and as a technical point of view, if you're against the fence, then I'm guessing that the airport still own the land on which the togger was standing. Just because the fence is at point A, doesn't mean that the 5-6 ft on the otherside isn't owned by the civil authorities :bonk:


darrenb said:
Whats the big problem with someone asking security questions....?

If you're doing nowt, then you're okay right?
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that's a little black and white. if you have nothing to fear or hide, then why not have your DNA on a register and all that with the police.
however, with this encounter, it was a reasonable inquiry handled very well by both parties I think
 
DizMatt said:
and as a technical point of view, if you're against the fence, then I'm guessing that the airport still own the land on which the togger was standing. Just because the fence is at point A, doesn't mean that the 5-6 ft on the otherside isn't owned by the civil authorities :bonk:
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it can extend far further than just 5-6 feet depending upon where you are - e.g. the airport car parks (which often abutt the airfield) etc. are all private property but are outside the perimeter fence.
 
purpleclouds said:
I popped down to Manchester Airport to take some shots for a local news agency, and was taking some from a public road, through the fence, of an American Airlines aircraft being de-iced. I'd just packed up to go to the terminals and one of the dispatchers came up to the fence and asked under what authority I was taking pictures....

....Don't have a press card but showed my football media pass and he was just like 'so that's media then is it?' I could have shown him my bank card and he wouldn't have known the difference :p

Then had a quick chat with him about how long the airport had been closed, when it reopened, and all was well.... not an arsey policeman in sight and I got some useful info. Probably could have educated him on the matter but hey ho... Just thought I'd share my first terrorist related incident!

Job done :thumbs:
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Well you do look dodgy mate :D






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I bought some stuff in Sainsburys and was going to buy some wine for Crimbo. I found the 25% off offer had finished, so went round to M&S where I thought there was a similar offer on, but it too had finished.

So, scooted back to Sainsburys and grabbed the wine and asked for help using the self-checkout (using my own bags with stuff in/remove security seal on one box/authorise alcohol purchase).

I was asked to produce a receipt for the stuff already in the bags. I did, but when I got home I was becoming more and more angry at what was being implied. I went back and got an apology from the customer services person.

But, once again, its another example of the way society is heading.

Do I really have to cause a 'scene' to stand up for my rights in a free society.

<rant />

Graham
 
blue max said:
I was asked to produce a receipt for the stuff already in the bags. I did, but when I got home I was becoming more and more angry at what was being implied. I went back and got an apology from the customer services person.
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From the way you describe it, I would say that was reasonable. Unless you were treated as a guilty shoplifter until you could prove you were innocent.


Steve.
 
JimLin1965 said:
I honestly don't see what the issue is with that :shrug:.
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I see his point - its the assumption/veiled accusation that you're doing something wrong,with no proof at all, as opposed to realising that most people are basically decent and don't steal, cheat, rip each other off etc etc etc

Hugh
 
JimLin1965 said:
I honestly don't see what the issue is with that :shrug:.
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neither do I
this time of year is peak season for shop lifters
if you go into a shop with their wares, even if already paid for, I'd expect to be asked politely about things like this. depends how the situation was handled by the staff
 
For all that see no problem with this...

It is NOT Sainsburys policy to ask for proof in that instance. What if I had thrown the receipt away?

If they have cause to believe you have stolen it, then that is very different. They have a security guard and cameras by the checkouts there too.

Perhaps the real issue is too many people accept authority without a thought ;)

Graham
 
blue max said:
It is NOT Sainsburys policy to ask for proof in that instance. What if I had thrown the receipt away?

If they have cause to believe you have stolen it, then that is very different.
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If they want to accuse you of shoplifting, they have to wait until you leave the store.


Steve.
 
I think we may have wandered off topic here? Nice picture and congratulations on bagging three nationals!
 
mrcrow said:
there is a nice pub there where you can take shots of planes from the childrens playground
they are usually landing though..

standing at a fence must have looked a bit strange...
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As strange as being in a children's playground ?
 
boyfalldown said:
agree and fixed it for you.

Hugh
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Oh yes. And I am not sure it's that far off topic.

I was dressed down, but I wonder if I was dressed in a smart suit if the reaction would have been different. Treat people with respect and you might get some back.

Graham
 
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