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[Paul W. H]

Terms and Conditions: See 19.2.3

http://www.tickets.london2012.com/purchaseterms.html


Big Brother says

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The following is a non-exhaustive list of restricted items which may not be taken into a Venue (LOCOG reserves the right to amend this list, generally, or in respect of any Venue or Session): food (save for baby food), alcoholic and non-alcoholic beverages (save for baby milk and other valid medical reasons), liquids in containers of greater than 100ml in size, needles (save as required for valid medical reasons), animals (save for assistance or guide dogs), weapons (including knives), illegal drugs, other illegal substances, fireworks, firecrackers, poles, flagpoles, sticks, large photographic equipment (including tripods), bats, large umbrellas and other blunt instruments, motorcycles, bicycles, roller-skates, skateboards, or other types of skates, electronic transmitting equipment, flags of countries not participating in the Games, large flags or banners, horns, whistles, drums, rattles, musical instruments, lasers or any other devices that in the opinion of LOCOG may disturb a Session, objects bearing trademarks or other kinds of promotional signs or messages (such as hats, T-shirts, bags, etc) which LOCOG believes are for promotional purposes, counterfeit products, balls, rackets, frisbees or similar objects, large quantities of coins, lighters, advertising or promotional material of any kind, printed matter bearing religious, political or offensive content or content contrary to public order and/or morality, bottles or containers made of glass or other material, flasks, thermoses, refrigerators, large objects such as suitcases or bags, and in general any material that LOCOG may deem dangerous or that may cause damage or disruption to a Session.

 

[KIPAX]

Not really different to any sporting venue in this country for many many years...

 

[ziggy©]

I cant believe i cant take my refrigerator with me!

 

[Daryl]

kalashnikov is not on the list?

 

[Musicman]

a bit further down the page...

Images, video and sound recordings of the Games taken by a Ticket Holder cannot be used for any purpose other than for private and domestic purposes and a Ticket Holder may not license, broadcast or publish video and/or sound recordings, including on social networking websites and the internet more generally, and may not exploit images, video and/or sound recordings for commercial purposes under any circumstances, whether on the internet or otherwise, or make them available to third parties for commercial purposes.

So, no posting your camera phone photos of the Olympic Men's Tiddlywinks semi-final on Facebook, or even on TP. :rules:

 

[StewartR]

So, no posting your camera phone photos of the Olympic Men's Tiddlywinks semi-final on Facebook, or even on TP. :rules:

That's not what it says.

You can't post videos or sound recordings made with your phone. But you can publish photos.

 

[StewartR]

Big Brother says

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The following is a non-exhaustive list of restricted items which may not be taken into a Venue .... blah blah .... animals .... blah blah ....roller-skates .... blah blah .... musical instruments ....

Seeing as how this is a photography forum, 99% of that is pretty irrelevant. And the 1% which isn't irrelevant is covered in considerable detail in this thread: [click].

 

[Photodiva]

You can't take in food or drink because they want you to buy their over-priced stuff. As for the rest, I can just imagine the meeting where they sat down and wrote all this.

I haven't got any tickets, couldn't afford them even if I could. Mercifully it'll be better just to watch on TV...

 

[Musicman]

That's not what it says.

You can't post videos or sound recordings made with your phone. But you can publish photos.

Probably should have left out the emphasis.

Are Facebook & TP "private and domestic" use? Under most UK legal precedent (e.g. copyright) they wouldn't.

Does it count as commercial exploitation (by a third party) if there are adverts on the web site where the photograph is posted? It certainly can for other areas of law.

 

[Paul W. H]

Seeing as how this is a photography forum, 99% of that is pretty irrelevant. And the 1% which isn't irrelevant is covered in considerable detail in this thread: [click].

Seeing as most people there will take photos or is that not photography, I don't understand your problem.

 

[StewartR]

Are Facebook & TP "private and domestic" use? Under most UK legal precedent (e.g. copyright) they wouldn't.

Good question. I can see the arguments both ways. But I'm not a lawyer, so I'm afraid I don't know the answer.

Does it count as commercial exploitation (by a third party) if there are adverts on the web site where the photograph is posted? It certainly can for other areas of law.

Good question. I can see the arguments both ways. But I'm not a lawyer, so I'm afraid I don't know the answer.

 

[inkiboo]

I love all the experts in media rights who have suddenly popped up.

 

[Bristolian]

Aw, c'mon! I bought Cecil (my tame fruit bat) a ticket for the flying around in a dark cave finals and now I see I can't take him to watch it. What if he goes on his own - I won't be taking him into the venue then?

Seriously though, are we not getting just a bit hung up on this idea that we have the right to take photographs wherever and whenever we want to and that the big, bad authorities are specifically singling us out for persecution?

For the most part you're going to be surrounded by other people all crammed in like sardines so waving your 600mm f/4 (or whatever penile substitute you use) around to get a shot of Joe Bloggs winning the 3-legged race on his own from 400m away isn't going to make you too popular. Go and enjoy the Games for what they are in their full spectacle not just the very narrow view through a long lens.

 

[andya700]

I cant believe i cant take my refrigerator with me!

I really wanted to "crash" the 100 metres final on my Harley Davidson and take Usain Bolt on his victory lap

 

[MG TF 135]

I haven't got any tickets, couldn't afford them even if I could. Mercifully it'll be better just to watch on TV...

Same here. I can wear what i like, eat what i like and drink what i like on my sofa.

 

[Musicman]

Good question. I can see the arguments both ways. But I'm not a lawyer, so I'm afraid I don't know the answer.

Good question. I can see the arguments both ways. But I'm not a lawyer, so I'm afraid I don't know the answer.

Seems LOGOC agree the wording needs clarification.

http://www.amateurphotographer.co.u...mpics-bosses-rebuff-facebook-photo-ban-claims

A spokesman for the Locog, the Olympics organising committee, today acknowledged that the wording is unclear, saying: ‘I take your point. I gather that we will clarify this when the tickets are sent out.'

He added: ‘We are not looking to stop private individuals from posting photographs on social networks.

‘What we are trying to do is prevent photos being used for commercial purposes.'

 

[Musicman]

Not really different to any sporting venue in this country for many many years...

Except that the advertising provisions may lead to a criminal conviction and a fine of up to £20,000 plus the Olympic Delivery Authority's legal expenses if, say, you turn up at an event with the wrong T-shirt on.

London Olympic Games and Paralympic Games Act 2006

which is a bit different.

 

[Alanem]

I really wanted to "crash" the 100 metres final on my Harley Davidson and take Usain Bolt on his victory lap

He's faster than any Harley!!! you'd need a Kawasaki to take him

Alan

 

[frank]

I pity the tourists who maybe combining a day at the games while on holiday here, there are going to a lot of bewildered visitors wondering why they can take 1000cc motorbike through the gates with them to hurtle up and down seating areas.
All these restrictions are certainly going to give a great example of the UK at their best ...not.

 

[Musicman]

Should you want to create a link to the 2012 web site, you can

http://www.london2012.com/about-this-website/terms-of-use.php

If you do not want to sign up for our banner-link facility, you may create your own link to the Site, provided that your link is in a text-only format.

which is at least a step up from the Sydney Games where the IOC demanded you write to them 28 days in advance to seek permission to put a link to the Games' official site from from anywhere else on the net

However...

You may not use any link to the Site as a method of creating an unauthorised association between an organisation, business, goods or services and London 2012, and agree that no such link shall portray us or any other official London 2012 organisations (or our or their activities, products or services) in a false, misleading, derogatory or otherwise objectionable manner.

so, no silly words in your link text :nono:

 

[andya700]

He's faster than any Harley!!! you'd need a Kawasaki to take him

Alan

I suppose one advantage with the Kwaka, is that it would be a lot quieter than the Harley, and may sneak past security.


PS - Haven't got a Harley, but used to have a Kwaka (pre missus)

 

[desantnik]

The following is a non-exhaustive list of restricted items which may not be taken into a Venue... flags of countries not participating in the Games,

That sounds like a challenge.... find an obscure national flag, see if anyone can tell what it is and chuck you out

My initial best bet would be this one:

 

[big soft moose]

kalashnikov is not on the list?

I'd imagine that comes under weapons

 

[big soft moose]

printed matter bearing religious...content .

Isnt that discriminatory and contrary to EU law - what If I need my bible/quran/talmud with me in order to pray 5 times a day - surely they arent going to deny me my basic human rights ( Hypothetically speaking - i'm actually an aetheist and dont have tickets to the games anyway)

 

[joescrivens]

I'd imagine that comes under weapons

but it didn't say including kalashnikovs

nor rocket launchers

nor flamethrowers

nor ak47s

nor mp5's

etc etc

oh but it made sure to include knives

 

[Beer_Stalker]

Terms and Conditions: See 19.2.3

http://www.tickets.london2012.com/purchaseterms.html

That's an old list from last year. The most recent info on restricted items is:

http://www.london2012.com/mm/Docume...Prohibitedandrestricteditemslists_Neutral.pdf

In terms of gear the following are not allowed: Large photographic and broadcast equipment over 30cm in length, including tripods and monopods.

 

[AESamuel]

but it didn't say including kalashnikovs

nor rocket launchers

nor flamethrowers

nor ak47s

nor mp5's

etc etc

oh but it made sure to include knives

But... An ak47 IS a kalashnikov, is it not?

 

[Marc]

but it didn't say including kalashnikovs

nor rocket launchers

nor flamethrowers

nor ak47s

nor mp5's

etc etc

oh but it made sure to include knives

Ah, but there is a reason why knives have to be specified separately from other weapons. A knife in itself could be argued not to be a weapon, especially if it is a kitchen knife or a swiss army type knife.

Of course, there are other things which aren't defined as weapons but could be used as such, including bricks and scaffold poles but it would be a very long list and I'm sure they have discretionary powers i that regard. I'm sure there are some vicious handbags out there!

 

[joescrivens]

But... An ak47 IS a kalashnikov, is it not?

Not necessarily, you can get a Chinese ak 47 too

 

[AESamuel]

Not necessarily, you can get a Chinese ak 47 too

Which although its a copy of the AK, its called a type 56. Maybe I'm just being too picky, sorry!

 

[Nick T]

Seems LOGOC agree the wording needs clarification.

http://www.amateurphotographer.co.u...mpics-bosses-rebuff-facebook-photo-ban-claims

Oh that's good, because then I can post some pictures I took at the Olympic test event on Monday at the Ricoh arena.

Like this one.


Referee! by Nick Tsiatinis, on Flickr

We did actually get stopped taking photos (and threatened with arrest if we continued), but when we clarified things with a FIFA official, we were granted permission to continue...

 

[ukchris]

Sorry if I sound a bit thick but I am getting a little lost

I am going to the London Disability Grand Prix for Athletics at the Olympic Stadium, can I take my Canon 600D in? From what i read I can but no mono poles etc

also I was thinking about renting a good lens for the event, any suggestions?

Chris

 

[big soft moose]

Which although its a copy of the AK, its called a type 56. Maybe I'm just being too picky, sorry!

there's also the israili Galil which is essentially a copy of the kalashnikov, theres also now a variant made in the states under licence, plus kalashnikovs were made in bulgaria, romania, and hungary as well as russia (romanian ons are usually regarded as being the best of the originals but the esraili and amercian copys are superior)

However if we are being super pedantic only the ones made in the old eastern bloc (not counting china) really qualify as either Kalashnikovs or AK47s as the former is the name of the original designer, and the latter is the year it was introduced into USSR forces.

It is also more accurate to use the term AK47 , as kalashnikov also designed the AKMS (like an AK47 but with a folding stock), and the more modern AK74 (which fires a smaller calibre bullet.) The APS variant used by russian marine forces is an AK47 family but isnt a kalshnikov as it was designed by russian arms desginer Vladimir Siminov

However the really key point here is that you won't be able to take any of the above into the olympics

 

[big soft moose]

Sorry if I sound a bit thick but I am getting a little lost

I am going to the London Disability Grand Prix for Athletics at the Olympic Stadium, can I take my Canon 600D in? From what i read I can but no mono poles etc

also I was thinking about renting a good lens for the event, any suggestions?

Chris

They say no large camera equipment - which i saw defined somewhere as nothing longer than 600mm (ive seen it somewhere else as 300mm so it would be wise to check) - the important thing to note is that mesurement will apply to the whole kit from the front of the lens to the back of the camera , so it will debar not only tripods but a number of the larger lenses.

In terms of what to hire therefore I'd say something compact and inconspicuous, not one of the big white lenses which will attact attention

 

[desantnik]

there's also the israili Galil which is essentially a copy of the kalashnikov *snip*

Comrade, there is no need to lecture, afterall we all received the same training at Komsomol meetings no? ;-)

Anyway, here's a handy cut out and keep guide for stupid people:

 

[big soft moose]

comrade you have obviously encountered stupid journalists - all reasonable journalists 'know' that the fourth one down in the right hand column is actually a stinger missile

( Its actually an RPG 7 in case anyone is wondering , and for yet more useless info RPG doesnt stand for 'rocket propelled grenade' whatever holywood would like us to believe, its actually russian Ruchnoy Protivotankovyy Granatomyot which translates as hand held antitank grenade launcher - strictly speaking the grenades arent rocket powered )

you won't be able to take one of those into the olympics either

 

[Musicman]

you won't be able to take one of those into the olympics either

What if it's an RPG branded with the logos of an official Olympic sponsor? I don't believe they could reasonably object then.

 

[desantnik]

You mean if it was a Mc Ruchnoy Protivotankovyy Granatomyot and the rounds were painted up to look like Coke bottles?

I'm lovin' it (tm)

 

[big soft moose]

maybe if you were with the russian team

 

[Musicman]

You mean if it was a Mc Ruchnoy Protivotankovyy Granatomyot and the rounds were painted up to look like Coke bottles?

I'm lovin' it (tm)

If you made the dumb mistake of painting it like a Pepsi bottle (who are not an official Olympic sponsor) then they'd be within their rights to throw you out under the terms of the London Olympic Games and Paralympic Games Act 2006. They might think you were ambush marketing.

Obviously.