Godox AD600 announced

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this looks like an exciting product.

Sketchy on some stuff right now, but it looks like full TTL and manual versions, with a Witstro mount at launch but Bowens and Elinchrom mounts later.

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1 that's a real shame
2 how is the mk2?

I'm in two minds about the new announcement. On the one hand the extra power will come in handy in the summer to overpower the sun. Sometimes the AD360 leaves me wanting a bit and I have to put it closer than I'd like then photoshop it out which is a right pain.

On the other hand the 600w looks bulkier and it (initially at least) won't have the small ecosystem of accessories that the AD360 does already. I'll probably wait to see how the reviews look or see if I can play with one but I could seriously be tempted to upgrade (again)

I'll do a full review on my website of the mk2 and share it here once I've used it live. I haven't used it for a real wedding yet. Will try it on Thursday's. Power wise it meters identically against the mk1. So unsurprisingly there's no difference in power. The key changes really are TTL and the built in 2.4Ghz trigger. The latter is really what I wanted. The little USB receiver on the old one used to fall out a lot and I was forever hunting for where I threw it in my bag.

The interface is consistent with the Godox TT685's which is good but also bad because it's not the easiest to use. The addition of TTL may be useful. Again I will try it in the field and see. Hilariously i put it on top of my camera and used it as an on camera flash. The TTL is very accurate and because of the external battery it recycles fast enough to keep up with continuous high at 6.5fps.

What it does mean though is hopefully I can unify my flashes and receivers. No longer will I need to swap flashes around. Just keep the TT685 on my camera and pair it to whichever flash I want. TTL/manual....all the same.
 
The TTL doesn't interest me as much as the real HSS.

I love my Safari 2 but it's on the bulky side of not fun, I love my AD360 but it's not quite got the oomph.

This looks like the logical step for me. Although not sure next years budget would stretch.
 
Oh sorry yeah it does HSS too. Used it once and promptly forgot about it. That will also help. My logic for the upgrade was really to speed things up as you know how things get on a wedding day. So the less swapping, changing around there is the better. I very rarely use HSS but having it built in along with TTL may help with things like groups. I'll see how I get on.
 
Oh sorry yeah it does HSS too. Used it once and promptly forgot about it. That will also help. My logic for the upgrade was really to speed things up as you know how things get on a wedding day. So the less swapping, changing around there is the better. I very rarely use HSS but having it built in along with TTL may help with things like groups. I'll see how I get on.

Hoping you can help, I have a AD360 mk1 and at the moment Im getting HSS with a pair of YN622s, not the TX, attached to the FT16s to enable me to control power wirelessly. I was wondering wether I could get rid of the FT16s and use a TX on camera instead to control power etc remotely and still have HSS?
 
Hoping you can help, I have a AD360 mk1 and at the moment Im getting HSS with a pair of YN622s, not the TX, attached to the FT16s to enable me to control power wirelessly. I was wondering wether I could get rid of the FT16s and use a TX on camera instead to control power etc remotely and still have HSS?

The short answer is no. Sorry.
 
Interesting. I hope they'll make smaller version with Bowens mount for the intrepid amateur.

This (http://flashhavoc.com/smdv-briht-360-ttl-strobe-announced/) came pretty close to my idea of a great portable battery-powered strobe, but then the mount is meh meh meh at best.

I did look at that one but ultimately Godox have built a nice little ecosystem now. So I can get cheap modifiers like their beauty dish, softbox, even a light pole and battery clip. I don't really need the Bowens mount. Their X1N triggers and TT685 range of flashes have unified my flash equipment.

More power would be my only wish for the AD360 now so that's why I'm keeping one close eye on the AD600.
 
ARGH. They announce this literally the day after I get my AD-360 Mk2!!!

Hah, I thought the same, DHL just knocked on my door 20 minutes ago with an AD-360II.

Seems to be a fairly different proposition though. The point of the 360 is it's tiny and lightweight, with a bit more punch than a speedlite. Plus, probably more importantly, it can fill a softbox / your modifier of choice, properly (compared to a speedlite).
 
Hah, I thought the same, DHL just knocked on my door 20 minutes ago with an AD-360II.

Seems to be a fairly different proposition though. The point of the 360 is it's tiny and lightweight, with a bit more punch than a speedlite. Plus, probably more importantly, it can fill a softbox / your modifier of choice, properly (compared to a speedlite).

Equivalent to 3 or 4 flashguns in many cases. The open bulb design is much better than a speedlight for light distribution in a softbox, would not say tiny and light but definitely lighter than many other systems. They say that it wont do 2nd curtain but as I am a Nikon guy and rear curtain is set on the body the X1 triggers happily allow it to work.

Mike
 
I've used the AD-360II for a couple of weddings now and I have to say that combined with my TT685's, I'm using the AD-360 much more than I used to. Before I used to just bring it out for the big shots. Now I just leave it on a lightstand and drag it around with me. I say the key is the fact I can put it into TTL mode and control it from my TT685's. I actually haven't used my X1N's like I thought I would. I think I'll get a couple more TT685's. They're not perfect but the versatility is better for me than the mix of speedlights I've currently got.
 
I've been very impressed w/ Godox products generally... The AD600 looks like a winner to me. My only concern with putting the power in the heads is the amount of weight you are putting up high...
 
It looks like a secondary/accessory head/cable... I expect that will push the cost too high for what it is. Better stands and more sandbags seem the "better" choice.
 
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For anyone who wants to take the risk of buying these, my sourcecs tell me that they go into production next week and should sell on ebay for about £499 (TTL) and about £365 for the non TTL version
 
yep, i've gambled on switching everything over to the Godox TT685's, X1N's and AD360mk2.

So far I can't decide if it was a good idea or if i've just jumped from the devil into the deep blue sea
 
yep, i've gambled on switching everything over to the Godox TT685's, X1N's and AD360mk2.

So far I can't decide if it was a good idea or if i've just jumped from the devil into the deep blue sea
It's a pretty big gamble. It's common practice with a lot of manufacturers to let their customers do their product testing, it isn't good for reputation but in a country with 1.3 billion potential customers, reputation isn't a major factor. And a lot of manufacturers don't know anything about the products they make, and don't employ photographers who are able to advise them on usage conditions and the type of stresses that are involved.
Typically, it takes 3 or 4 production batches (at least) to iron out faults, so buying from an early batch is is very much a risk. If it fails, you'll be dealing with an ebay seller who doesn't have the means of putting it right even if he wants to, and with the very slender margins that these people work on there's no incentive to care about keeping their customers happy once it's too late to leave negative feedback. Even if only the battery fails, you'll have a big problem. It's OK with the cheap and cheerful Yongnuo flashes and radio triggers, there isn't much to go wrong with those, if they do go wrong the low prices mean that you can afford to throw them away, and they are mature products anyway, with any bugs ironed out.

This reminds me of another product, different manufacturer. Every single one of the first batch failed, and the people who thought they'd bought a bargain got that bit very wrong.
And even if the seller wants to help, you'll have to bear the cost of return, both ways, to China, which will cost at least as much as the selling price - and because it contains a lithium battery, it can't go by air unless you misdeclare the contents (which the sellers do).
 
I understand it's a gamble. I've already found issues with the Godox flashes. Right now I'm mitigating the risk as much as I can by taking other flashes with me. So in my other bag I've got my trusted Nikon SB910 and Shanny (which I love and trust) as well as 2x560mk3's. I may sell the 560's in the new year though.

But yeah, i do understand it's a gamble hence why I said it was. But for me the upside is not having to faff about changing triggers and losing the little USB bit on the Godox which increases my speed and not to mention saving space in my bag.
 
I understand it's a gamble. I've already found issues with the Godox flashes. Right now I'm mitigating the risk as much as I can by taking other flashes with me. So in my other bag I've got my trusted Nikon SB910 and Shanny (which I love and trust) as well as 2x560mk3's. I may sell the 560's in the new year though.

But yeah, i do understand it's a gamble hence why I said it was. But for me the upside is not having to faff about changing triggers and losing the little USB bit on the Godox which increases my speed and not to mention saving space in my bag.

I gambled by buying a lot of Godox gear direct from Hong Kong & China 18 months to 12 months ago and have needed to buy 2 new batteries but I reckon that I am still £500+ to the good

Mike
 
I gambled by buying a lot of Godox gear direct from Hong Kong & China 18 months to 12 months ago and have needed to buy 2 new batteries but I reckon that I am still £500+ to the good

Mike

And the new AD600 is just a little over that, might be time to invest those savings ;)

Mike
 
And the new AD600 is just a little over that, might be time to invest those savings ;)

Mike
I'm weighing my options, I'll probably be waiting till there's a stockist closer to home.
 
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