Go on then, speculate on Nikon's announcement next week....

girl_with_camera said:
I really hope that this is right, I currently have the exact amount of £1350 in my camera upgrade fund...! At least the 24th is now tomorrow so not long to wait!
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even if the new camera is announce, you still have to wait before the camera is release to the shop to sell etc.
 
I hope they finally update the 17-55 f2.8 dx lens with VR and add nano coating. They are put since 2003!!!
I dont want to see the D400, two months ago I both the D7000 :)
 
pinco000 said:
I hope they finally update the 17-55 f2.8 dx lens with VR and add nano coating. They are put since 2003!!!
I dont want to see the D400, two months ago I both the D7000 :)
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Why would you need VR on a fast, short lens? It's only really of use on stuff with long focal lengths where camera movement/shake becomes an issue.

There's no way they'll do any upgrades to that lens anyway, I mean 2003? They've only just stuck a motor in the 50mm f/1.8 and look how long that has been around :lol:
 
Interesting to note that new Nikon bodies are being supplied with a newer body cap that now says "F Mount"....

Would be a really dumb idea if they did, but could they be thinking.........?
 
So now rumours are around stating that only Coolpix cameras will be announced tomorrow. A second, September announcement a possibility.

This is cruel.
 
I've got a D7000 but I'm not regret of buying it even if a D400 is release because the camera will be more expensive (1.2-1.3k approx) then my budget.

In fact i can start looking for a second hand D300 or D300s for the fast burst speed i want. I don't mind using D7000 and D300 combo.
 
treeman said:
Interesting to note that new Nikon bodies are being supplied with a newer body cap that now says "F Mount"....

Would be a really dumb idea if they did, but could they be thinking.........?
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Yeah, my new tc came with one of those, I assume it's to differentiate them from the new fitment for the mirrorless compact system, but :shrug:
 
badboy1984 said:
I've got a D7000 but I'm not regret of buying it even if a D400 is release because the camera will be more expensive (1.2-1.3k approx) then my budget.

In fact i can start looking for a second hand D300 or D300s for the fast burst speed i want. I don't mind using D7000 and D300 combo.
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I'd forgotten about burst speeds- be nice if the D400 could maintain the same speed shooting 14 bit raw like Canon. The D300/s is crap dropping to under 3fps. Even if it can be hard to tell the difference between 12bit and 14bit that's not the point:D
 
The situation in Japan has had a major impact on Nikon.

I suggest that tomorrow will bring only the compact cameras as suggested above and we will need to wait until next spring to see any new SLR models.

The D7000 is selling very well just now and I suggest that Nikon will be happy with that for now given the job they have in Japan to recover.

Just my opinion mind you.
 
Ok, so the initial press releases are available now and they just contain AW and P series coolpix's, however I've still got high hopes for a second wave as this is a hell of a lot of attention and fuss for two cameras that aren't going to set the world alight. Watch this optimistic space..... :)
 
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Bet Sony's announcements better than yours nah nah :D
 
SussexBlue said:
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Bet Sony's announcements better than yours nah nah :D
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:lol:

'Your people' should stick to making TV's alpha lover;):lol:

'My people' should hire Carlsberg for announcements- compacts eh- I'm so excited- not:D
 
kalibre said:
Ok, so the initial press releases are available now and they just contain AW and P series coolpix's, however I've still got high hopes for a second wave as this is a hell of a lot of attention and fuss for two cameras that aren't going to set the world alight. Watch this optimistic space..... :)
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I'm keeping my fingers crossed :)
 
it is very exciting - nothing has changed :lol: and may stay like that for a few more months

I hope people haven't started selling off their gear in anticipation of a new wonder camera / lens / flash / pair of shoes...
 
Nikon almost certain to make another announcement within a few weeks (Sep?) so let's hope for something then........ :(
 
This has certainly been an anticlimax!
 
Staff at our local Jessops were told by their Nikon rep last month that the D4 is to be announced in August, so there's hope yet..
 
Dr_O said:
I agree that the white lens, red ring and L badge was a stroke of genius (even if it looks crap:lol:) but the reasons behind them becoming so prevalent are ultimately technical ones stemming from board decisions. Nikon only have poor strategic decisions to blame for losing the sports mantle and you could almost say that the sea of white at such events now is self sustaining for Canon and that it's effectively a closed shop for Nikon even though there's now little if any difference between the systems.

Look at video- great opportunity for Nikon and they screwed it up- what could marketing do with a format nobody wanted? You could argue that their market research should feed into the board so perhaps they are at fault. mmm... lets sack them all:lol:
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Yous clearly haven't done your research canon White lenses are White for a reason other than the crap toys are spouting the big White L lenses are White because in hotter climates the will reflect the heat from the sun rather than soak it up which reduces the performance of the AF system look more into these things before talking trash.
 
born-shooter said:
Yous clearly haven't done your research canon White lenses are White for a reason other than the crap toys are spouting the big White L lenses are White because in hotter climates the will reflect the heat from the sun rather than soak it up which reduces the performance of the AF system look more into these things before talking trash.
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mmmmm.....no, despite the techno babble spouted about keeping the lens cooler cannon preach, and you've fallen for, a white lens is a rather good marketing tool, but thats about it. Its a great marketing idea, and I suppose tieing it to some techno babble helps further, but at the end of the day it is only a marketing idea, nothing more
 
born-shooter said:
Yous clearly haven't done your research canon White lenses are White for a reason other than the crap toys are spouting the big White L lenses are White because in hotter climates the will reflect the heat from the sun rather than soak it up which reduces the performance of the AF system look more into these things before talking trash.
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Well you're clearly much more enlightened than all of us. Can you explain the mechanism by which the AF performance is affected and point me to any independent scientific paper that shows lens performance degradation correlated to heat increase- both in lab conditions and in practice?
Presumably you mean the AF will be affected indirectly as a consequence of the metal heating up more on one side and the glass elements moving slightly out of perfect alignment? Or did you just mean the electronics wont work as well in the heat as they prefer lower operating temperatures- although the electronics in the body must be ok as they leave that black.

I wonder at what focal length Canon decide when white is needed? It's interesting to note that the 200mm L lens is black while the 70-200 is white. Presumably it's the kind of black paint that other manufacturers use that is unaffected by heat;)
 
born-shooter said:
Yous clearly haven't done your research canon White lenses are White for a reason other than the crap toys are spouting the big White L lenses are White because in hotter climates the will reflect the heat from the sun rather than soak it up which reduces the performance of the AF system look more into these things before talking trash.
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Haven't you been banned for trolling yet?
 
i think the P7100 is pretty good ........ i think i will buy it as compact for my dad to use.
 
All the companies seem to be tearing us apart by not releasing new high end DSLR's! Its driving me mad!
 
RMaynardPhoto said:
All the companies seem to be tearing us apart by not releasing new high end DSLR's! Its driving me mad!
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"all the companies"? Have you not seen Sony's announcement today? :-)
 
Dr_O said:
Well you're clearly much more enlightened than all of us. Can you explain the mechanism by which the AF performance is affected and point me to any independent scientific paper that shows lens performance degradation correlated to heat increase- both in lab conditions and in practice?
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I can't provide independent scientific research, but I can point you to Canon's statement on the matter on their own web site.

http://cpn.canon-europe.com/content/education/infobank/lenses/black_or_white_lenses.do

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Lenses: Black or white lenses?

Most EF lenses have black barrels, but a few are white (actually a light grey or beige). The white lenses are all large super-telephotos. There is a good reason for this.

Lenses contain glass elements. These expand with heat. This is not usually a problem with compact lenses − the amount of expansion is small. But large lenses contain large elements and here expansion can bring a lens close to the limits of its design tolerances. A white surface reflects sunlight, helping to keep the lens cooler.

Incidentally, you will find that the manual focusing action of some black lenses allows focusing past its infinity setting (sometimes called over-focusing). This is also to allow for expansion. If the lens is used in hot conditions, infinity focusing will be closer to the end of the travel.
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Whether you choose to believe that is based on their own research or just marketing puff is up to you.

e2a: I haven't the slightest doubt that the marketing benefits of a sea of white lenses at major sports events isn't lost on Canon, though :)
 
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to behonest i still think the D3(s)/(x) and the D700 is perfectly still a good camera to do the pro stuff ......... not that old i think .......
 
Johnd2000 said:
"all the companies"? Have you not seen Sony's announcement today? :-)
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The new Sony makes me think that we may get a rush of new Canon DSLR's in the coming months, not sure they'll be keen on seeing the 7D surpassed for resolution for any lenght of time.
 
Canon are saving their announcements until the ToyExpo in December...

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Well that was an anticlimax. :eek: :lol:

I think with Canon, Nikon and Sony choosing to have press releases about cameras around the same time, this round has been won by Sony for excitement. :lol:

The Sony a77 has 24mp and 12 frames per second. :eek: Any D300S/7D replacement is going to have to get close to that performance. Of course the Sony a77 is not a DSLR, but it will be interesting to see what the EVF is like with it being OLED and 2.4m dots. :eek: I think the largest rear LCD screen is about 1m dots, so 2.4m in the viewfinder could be interesting.

Sony also announced the a65 also 24mp and does 10fps, again more fps than the top of the range Canon and Nikon APS-C cameras can currently achieve.

For some stupid reason they have stuck with the rear swivel LCD screen though. :bonk: So not all good. :lol:
 
Musicman said:
I can't provide independent scientific research, but I can point you to Canon's statement on the matter on their own web site.

http://cpn.canon-europe.com/content/education/infobank/lenses/black_or_white_lenses.do



Whether you choose to believe that is based on their own research or just marketing puff is up to you.

e2a: I haven't the slightest doubt that the marketing benefits of a sea of white lenses at major sports events isn't lost on Canon, though :)
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cheers, have read that before- reads like a shampoo advert (although not as bad), written by someone whose never been in a lab:lol:

I don't have a problem with the theoretical physics, I just think they should be more open and honest. No one would really care if they had said it was for marketing but make a mockery of science with some mumbo jumbo and people do.

Anyway, if I switch to Canon I already have the black covers I need earmarked for the corresponding lenses. That's bound to keep them toasty:lol:
 
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