Go on then, speculate on Nikon's announcement next week....

My money's on a D4 and D400.
I hadn't even considered a pro body D400, but it sort of makes sense to put it in a class above the D7000, and possibly (probably) be the class leading crop format camera on the market. I'm also guessing that Nikon have been playing with their autofocus system and high ISO performace.

Whatever they announce, I want one!!

Aled
 
Going back a bit; August 2007 to be precise, Nikon announced the D3 and D300 bodies; but they also announced three new lenses, 14-24 AF-S, 24-70 AF-S and the 70-200 VR.

From that, my guess would be a couple of new bodies, one FX and one DX (both at 16~18MP) plus three killer lenses to along with that. With the Olympics coming soon, I'd hazard a guess ...

D4, two stops better high ISO capability, more fps, selective metering (I keep repeating this as I hope by my persistence it comes to fruition)

D400, similar to what the current D3s offers but in a DX sensor and smaller body

50mm f/1.2
135mm f/2
80-400 AF-S VR II

These would be announced now, and available at retail just before Christmas. As for the D800, we will not hear of this until past the new year and will be available Spring 2012. D4x around this time next year.
 
kalibre said:
So it seems my D700 replacement might be wishful thinking.... if that's the case then my disappointment would be silently accompanied by a relief that I don't have to find the money to buy one. (Will power does not factor).
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I'm the same in that I don't want them to announce a D700 replacement as I know it will be hard to resist if it's a proper successor to the D700.

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Ok, I'll have a stab.

D400 with 20Mps sensor, and full video range (ie simlar to 5D mkII only better), and a new driver update for the D7000 to enable full video. Along with a cash back offer on D3, D700, D400 and D7000 (greater on D700 to clear stock).

If I am right do I get a prize :D
 
Suomi said:
Ok, I'll have a stab.

D400 with 20Mps sensor, and full video range (ie simlar to 5D mkII only better), and a new driver update for the D7000 to enable full video. Along with a cash back offer on D3, D700, D400 and D7000 (greater on D700 to clear stock).

If I am right do I get a prize :D
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I don't think you will be far off, there's rumors floating around that a semi or pro body is coming! (I just hope canon respond to it as per my post earlier)
 
i'll be gutted if the only full frame they announce is the d4, as i know i can't justify spending upwards of £4k on a camera now.

/prays for d800 announcement
 
rampanthamster said:
i'll be gutted if the only full frame they announce is the d4, as i know i can't justify spending upwards of £4k on a camera now.

/prays for d800 announcement
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Same boat, although I may just have to go for the d4 in the absence of a d800. I really do have no will power.
 
i personally think D3s and D700 need replacing ....... because is 2-3 years old it doesn't mean is out of date now and is in need of replacement.

The D300(s) is the one that definite need replacing because of the D7000. The D300(s) is better than the D7000 in number of ways so they need to make it not just better but much better than the D7000 to justify the price tag.
 
specialman said:
**crosses fingers**

D2xs-type DX body with awesome high ISO would be sweet....
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A proper professional DX camera with good weather sealing rather than token gesture stuff would indeed be great but that would require a boardroom shake up at this rate.

Think you need to cross your toes too:lol:
 
Suomi said:
Ok, I'll have a stab.

D400 with 20Mps sensor....
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I'm not so sure about that, Nikon aren't slaves to the headline MP count the way Canon are and have stuck at 12mp for the pro range (the D3x aside) for several years, at a push I reckon the D400 will feature the 16.2mp sensor from the D7000.
 
redhed17 said:
What's 'selective metering'? :shrug:
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Basically, your metering is broken down in to a matrix of, say, 24 squares (zones) across and 12 squares (zones) down for a total of 288 zones. Each of these squares can be metered independent of one another. This works with shutter-less cameras (not that I've seen any in retail stores).

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If that bunch of "*" be your metering area of your sensor, each one of the "*" can be metered independent of one another.

So, for example, if you're shooting landscape, you can easily apply a different EV to the top squares vs. the lower ones giving you a better combination exposure without the need to use Gradual Neutral Density (GND) filters.
 
Wail said:
Basically, your metering is broken down in to a matrix of, say, 24 squares (zones) across and 12 squares (zones) down for a total of 288 zones. Each of these squares can be metered independent of one another. This works with shutter-less cameras (not that I've seen any in retail stores).

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If that bunch of "*" be your metering area of your sensor, each one of the "*" can be metered independent of one another.

So, for example, if you're shooting landscape, you can easily apply a different EV to the top squares vs. the lower ones giving you a better combination exposure without the need to use Gradual Neutral Density (GND) filters.
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Erm, not sure how that's going to work with a focal plane shutter. If it did it would be a 'software' frig. That said, the peeps at Nikon are probably better at designing cameras than me. :)
 
I honestly haven't a clue as to how it would / could work; if even it is at all possible. But the thought of being able to meter different bits of the sensor independently sure appeals to me, especially for my landscapes.

But hey, we are speculating :) :love: .. and if someone mentioned ISO 51200 in the film days, I would have thought them to be :cuckoo:
 
How about a new range of quality manual focus primes. Lets face it the new "G" primes are great for AF but are far from ideal for photographers who only ever use manual focus.
 
So if we are looking at a D4 (or D5 as '4' is unlucky in Japan) shall we speculate on cost? I think GBP RRP will be £4199, that is assuming it's got lots of new toys. If not then cheaper.

I'll guess at £1350 for a D400

and...still hanging out for a D800, I'll go for £2800.
 
Wail said:
Basically, your metering is broken down in to a matrix of, say, 24 squares (zones) across and 12 squares (zones) down for a total of 288 zones. Each of these squares can be metered independent of one another. This works with shutter-less cameras (not that I've seen any in retail stores).
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Ah, I thought it was something obvious I didn't know about. :lol:
 
Interesting that there is a hint of a September annoucement also.
 
maninsuitcase said:
Or a 70-200 f4 VR would be nice (and fill a hole) but then again maybe an 8mm micro?
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No, no , no- you wouldn't build one of those- you would end up selling loads and Nikon only build lenses that are popular so there's prob mileage in your 8mm micro:cuckoo::lol:
 
I don't know enough about past history but it would make zero commercial senSe to release a D700 and D3S replacement at the same time. Everyone loves their D700's but they all want a replacement!!
 
Beardy said:
I don't know enough about past history but it would make zero commercial senSe to release a D700 and D3S replacement at the same time. Everyone loves their D700's but they all want a replacement!!
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Nikon have zero commercial sense- that's the point of many responses:lol:. You only have to compare their strategy with Canon's to realise they are only playing. It's a pity as their is a lot of potential and (for a small fee;)) it would be quite interesting to help them out but I think the Japanese company culture would drive me up the wall:lol:
 
Wail said:
I honestly haven't a clue as to how it would / could work; if even it is at all possible. But the thought of being able to meter different bits of the sensor independently sure appeals to me, especially for my landscapes.

But hey, we are speculating :) :love: .. and if someone mentioned ISO 51200 in the film days, I would have thought them to be :cuckoo:
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you could probably get slective metering to work if its just ISO as the variable. same shutter/aperture obviously because that couldnt physically be different across the image - but what if they found a way to change the ISO of certain parts of the sensor individually..? obviously shooting half iso00 and half iso6400 would be stupid, but for the sake of 1 or 2 stops difference you wouldnt notice the noise and youd have a better exposed image?
 
Dr_O said:
Nikon have zero commercial sense- that's the point of many responses:lol:. You only have to compare their strategy with Canon's to realise they are only playing. It's a pity as their is a lot of potential and (for a small fee;)) it would be quite interesting to help them out but I think the Japanese company culture would drive me up the wall:lol:
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The difference is that Canon is a more marketing-driven company, their new products must include headline-grabbing "improvements" such as a greater pixel count.

Contrast that with Nikon which is more engineering driven, where the concentration has been on cleaner high iso images. Whilst that is probably more beneficial for the majority of photographers Canon realise that it's far easier to sell "more megapixels equals better images" to the general public than it is to explain the benefits of being able to use a higher iso, it's just not as "sexy"....
 
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The difference is that Canon is a more marketing-driven company, their new products must include headline-grabbing "improvements" such as a greater pixel count.

Contrast that with Nikon which is more engineering driven, where the concentration has been on cleaner high iso images. Whilst that is probably more beneficial for the majority of photographers Canon realise that it's far easier to sell "more megapixels equals better images" to the general public than it is to explain the benefits of being able to use a higher iso, it's just not as "sexy"....
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I'm not talking about megapixels though or any other frivolities, merely the published management strategies for each company. Canon's strategy is at least ambitious and while I'm the first to point out that their implementation is sometimes questionable, with them often succumbing to Japanese culture and denying their are any issues with their products, at least they have some real aims rather than the Mickey Mouse effort Nikon have publicised.
The reason Nikon are not number1 is down to their board and not their marketing department. That doesn't mean I'd be paying them their full bonus either though:lol:
 
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The reason Nikon are not number1 is down to their board and not their marketing department.
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I have to disagree with that, marketing budgets aside (Canon being a far larger company with greater resources) consumer-market sales are ultimately driven by brand exposure and nothing gives Canon more of that than the white L-series lenses.

There's no real reason for Canon to produce all of their big lenses only in white (Nikon offer both black and tropical grey) other than it making them easily recognisable at large events, ensuring every such lens they can punt to a pro tog for use at football matches etc is effectively free advertising for the brand.
 
Dal said:
Well that sucks :(
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If you were releasing a new flagship product would you send out a press release 2 days early and risk some one leaking the details early? I wouldn't, and and not reading much into that.

Scott Kelby has a "big announcement" scheduled for Wednesday now too. Too coincidental to not be related to the Nikon press conference IMO.
 
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If you were releasing a new flagship product would you send out a press release 2 days early and risk some one leaking the details early? I wouldn't, and and not reading much into that.

Scott Kelby has a "big announcement" scheduled for Wednesday now too. Too coincidental to not be related to the Nikon press conference IMO.
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To be honest, I've never actually followed any company with releasing new products so I thought that the press release contained everything.

I'm only interested in this as I want to sell my D300 and get the replacement :D.
 
I'm fully expecting a D400, personally.

The D300s has been around for a while now and the 12MP sensor seems at odds with the 16MP one in the D7000 (a cheaper body) :shrug:. I hope that they keep the dual card slots, as CF cards are still pretty pricey and I have a load of SD cards already. Depending on price, I could well be tempted to sell my D90 and go for one, for wildlife and 'event' photography mostly.

One thing that would please me if is they don't bring out their mirrorless camera just yet. I'm slyly going round ebay and picking up a full range of MF Nikkors :naughty: (mainly to use on my D700) - I think that prices on these will sky rocket if they are compatible with any form of compact (FX?) body :|.

There you go, that's my $0:02 ;).
 
Flash In The Pan said:
I have to disagree with that, marketing budgets aside (Canon being a far larger company with greater resources) consumer-market sales are ultimately driven by brand exposure and nothing gives Canon more of that than the white L-series lenses.

There's no real reason for Canon to produce all of their big lenses only in white (Nikon offer both black and tropical grey) other than it making them easily recognisable at large events, ensuring every such lens they can punt to a pro tog for use at football matches etc is effectively free advertising for the brand.
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I agree that the white lens, red ring and L badge was a stroke of genius (even if it looks crap:lol:) but the reasons behind them becoming so prevalent are ultimately technical ones stemming from board decisions. Nikon only have poor strategic decisions to blame for losing the sports mantle and you could almost say that the sea of white at such events now is self sustaining for Canon and that it's effectively a closed shop for Nikon even though there's now little if any difference between the systems.

Look at video- great opportunity for Nikon and they screwed it up- what could marketing do with a format nobody wanted? You could argue that their market research should feed into the board so perhaps they are at fault. mmm... lets sack them all:lol:
 
kalibre said:
So if we are looking at a D4 (or D5 as '4' is unlucky in Japan) shall we speculate on cost? I think GBP RRP will be £4199, that is assuming it's got lots of new toys. If not then cheaper.

I'll guess at £1350 for a D400

and...still hanging out for a D800, I'll go for £2800.
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I really hope that this is right, I currently have the exact amount of £1350 in my camera upgrade fund...! At least the 24th is now tomorrow so not long to wait!
 
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