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GGGrrrr, one day Karma will catch up with these MOFO's :mad:
 
:( :mad: are my feeling also , what pleasure can they get out of that?
 
Unfortunately I don't believe in Karma, the biggest arseholes on the planet are running the show. And t***s like those aren't schoolteachers or doctors, they're bankers and lawyers right at the top of society.
 
Not that it makes it right but a reverse search on tineye ( I thought I'd seen it before) gives the earliest "crawl date" as 2013-12-03
 
I wonder how long it will be before someone posts, that it was all done in the best interests of "conservation":(

It doesn't matter if it has four or two legs, the Yanks will find some reason to shoot it.
 
They don't know any different. They are wrapped up in their own ways. It will take decades for them to catch up with the way that the rest of us think. I have traveled extensively in the US and basically think that they are descent law abiding friendly people that need to be educated. They will get the hang of it eventually.
 
What concerns me more is they actually took a flag with them purely for the purpose of draping it over a dead animal as some kind of "Murica, HELLYEAH!!" statement..
 
andy700 said:
I wonder how long it will be before someone posts, that it was all done in the best interests of "conservation":(

It doesn't matter if it has four or two legs, the Yanks will find some reason to shoot it.
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Namibia were paid $175,000 for their conservation fund, so it will go to help conserve other animals. t***s
 
nilagin said:
Namibia were paid $175,000 for their conservation fund, so it will go to help conserve other animals. t***s
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Doesn't make right though :(
 
Is it dangerous to mention fox hunting here? In the light of the recent fox cub discovery?
 
nilagin said:
Namibia were paid $175,000 for their conservation fund, so it will go to help conserve other animals. t***s
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But how much of that will genuinely go to help conservation .... i bet there are a few people making a nice profit from it and these tits are probably bragging more about how much it cost them, than the skill of following someone and putting the last bullet in a defenceless wounded animal.
 
Looks at yourselves, there is no story with this picture yet the imagination is running wild. Varying from they have to be bankers, lawyers mixed in with some could language. To then calling American citizens all sorts, accusing them of not being law abiding citizens, right down to how they look.

I really do hope the view is beautiful on that high horse and there is safe journey down from there.

Unless I've missed some link to the backstory, this is nothing more than the usual Facebook and daily mail outrage based on a photo. Where are the facts?
 
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ianp5a said:
Is it dangerous to mention fox hunting here? In the light of the recent fox cub discovery?
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Ok enlighten me, are they charging a small fortune to shoot foxes now, let farmers know they could be millionaires
 
The connection was killing for fun. Not the cost. Or the method. Besides, baby foxes are cuter.
Anyway, I was only asking. I didn't want to derail the thread. (much)
 
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Looks at yourselves, there is no story with this picture yet the imagination is running wild. Varying from they have to be bankers, lawyers mixed in with some could language. To then calling American citizens all sorts, accusing them of not being law abiding citizens, right down to how they look.
I really do hope the view is beautiful on that high horse and there is safe journey down from there.
Unless I've missed some link to the backstory, this is nothing more than the usual Facebook and daily mail outrage based on a photo. Where are the facts?
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But we have the right to jump to these conclusions. Our forefathers and these brave american hunters' forefathers fought for that right. We have the right to speculate, and fill a forum with conjecture!
 
ianp5a said:
Is it dangerous to mention fox hunting here? In the light of the recent fox cub discovery?
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Implies that something has come to light recently, foxhunting and cubbing is centuries old, albeit illegal now

ianp5a said:
The connection was killing for fun. Not the cost. Or the method. Besides, baby foxes are cuter.
Anyway, I was only asking. I didn't want to derail the thread. (much)
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So why ask, sorry can't see the point in even mentioning something that has been banned :thinking:
 
Well it made the TV news last week. I mentioned it to see if anyone wanted to take it up. And both are illegal.
 
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Gremlin said:
Implies that something has come to light recently, foxhunting and cubbing is centuries old, albeit illegal now
So why ask, sorry can't see the point in even mentioning something that has been banned :thinking:
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http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-33100242

Police are investigating after footage of 16 fox cubs held in a barn near to hunt kennels emerged.

The video was filmed in a barn near to the Middleton Hunt Kennels in Malton, North Yorkshire, by the League Against Cruel Sports, which alleges that the cubs were being raised to be hunted.

Fox hunting with dogs was made illegal in 2004.

The Middleton Hunt said it was confident that no-one connected with the hunt had committed any offence.

Police raid
The footage, given to the BBC, showed the dark interior of a barn, located some 200m (660ft) from the hunt kennels.

A number of fox cubs, aged six to eight weeks, were shying away from the light of the camera.

Several were hiding in a milk churn and others were crouching in a drainpipe.

The images were filmed over two consecutive nights.

Campaigners alerted North Yorkshire Police, who raided the barn on 31 May and took away the cubs.

The police said there were 16 cubs from at least four different vixens.

There is also daytime footage.

The League Against Cruel Sports (LACS) claims it shows a man with connections to the local hunt at the barn where the cubs were kept.

Dr Toni Shephard, from the LACS, said: "This footage shows 16 fox cubs being kept in a barn without any sign of a vixen or parents.

"We believe that they're being kept to ensure that there are plenty of foxes to hunt this coming season when they go out.

"We think that this practice is widespread and this demonstrates that hunting is nothing to do with fox control or wildlife management, but that it's just a cruel sport that people take part in purely for pleasure."

The young cubs appeared to have access to food and water.


It is not against the law simply to hold some wild animals (if they are not a protected species), but the reason for keeping the cubs in the barn is unclear.

Hunting wild mammals - including foxes - with dogs was banned by the Hunting Act in 2004.

When hunts meet, riders follow fake scent trails, known as 'drag hunting.'

However, opponents claim that the law is regularly broken and foxes are still killed.

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The masters from the Middleton Hunt referred the BBC to the Countryside Alliance, which said the barn entered by police was not owned by the Middleton Hunt and was not part of its lease.

"The Middleton Hunt has assisted the police with their inquiries, and is confident that no-one employed by or associated with the hunt has committed any offence," it said in a statement.

"The hunt would take any claim to the contrary extremely seriously.

"The Middleton Hunt has been advised against making any further statement."

The Birdsall Estate, which owns the land, said both areas - the barn and the kennels - are on a long-term lease and they do not have any day-to-day involvement in tenanted areas of the estate.


The allegations are likely to enrage those on both sides of the debate.

Conservative MP for Thirsk and Malton, Kevin Hollinrake, said: "We don't know exactly what has happened, but I have never heard of this kind of incident before, so we need to find out what has happened. Actions like this would not be supported by the hunting community."

And he added: "We want a sensible discussion.

"I respect views on both sides of the argument. This is about what's lawful.

"Everybody should abide by and obey the laws, so it should be framed in a sensible way, looking at all the different issues and all the different arguments."

The cubs are now in a sanctuary in Liverpool. They will eventually be released into the wild.
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Phil V said:
Unfortunately I don't believe in Karma, the biggest arseholes on the planet are running the show. And t***s like those aren't schoolteachers or doctors, they're bankers and lawyers right at the top of society.
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He who pays the piper call the tunes. Those who pay in the most should rightly have the most say. Fairs fair.
 
ST4 said:
He who pays the piper call the tunes. Those who pay in the most should rightly have the most say. Fairs fair.
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I thought we should live in a free world of 1 man 1 vote, which seemed fair (remember the Magna Carta). We've allowed $1 to equal a measure of influence, that's wrong IMO, but how to fix it is a question too complex for here.
 
ST4 said:
So the OP does support the death penalty then if he wants to shoot animal hunters.

What other legal passtimes should get the death penalty and what other non legal activites should people get shot for. I can list many. Can you @Neil B?
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Oh god, here we go again!
 
ST4 said:
He who pays the piper call the tunes. Those who pay in the most should rightly have the most say. Fairs fair.
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Oh god, here we go again!
 
Phil V said:
I thought we should live in a free world of 1 man 1 vote, which seemed fair (remember the Magna Carta). We've allowed $1 to equal a measure of influence, that's wrong IMO, but how to fix it is a question too complex for here.
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We do, we get to chose from a selected number of individuals to represent us. But these individuals need to be of a high calibre so invariably are highly educated and reasonably well off. Very wealthy people sponsor certain parties which really means certain individuals in politics go further so the person who pays the piper still gets to call the tune.

Labour, conservative etc, SNP all have taken donations in from wealthy people and you cannot escape that fact.
 
ST4 said:
We do, we get to chose from a selected number of individuals to represent us. But these individuals need to be of a high calibre so invariably are highly educated and reasonably well off. Very wealthy people sponsor certain parties which really means certain individuals in politics go further so the person who pays the piper still gets to call the tune.

Labour, conservative etc, SNP all have taken donations in from wealthy people and you cannot escape that fact.
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If you think it's as simple as party donations you really do live in a cave. Our 'democracy' is a facade, our governments no longer run the world and haven't for a long time.
 
Phil V said:
If you think it's as simple as party donations you really do live in a cave. Our 'democracy' is a facade, our governments no longer run the world and haven't for a long time.
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I think people put too much expectation/thought into what the government should do for them, and less expectation/thought into what they should do for themselves. I favour the American way in this regard. Privatise as much as possible. Let people self determine, not their state.
 
ST4 said:
I think people put too much expectation/thought into what the government should do for them, and less expectation/thought into what they should do for themselves. I favour the American way in this regard. Privatise as much as possible. Let people self determine, not their state.
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What has this to do with Rhino Hunting?
 
ST4 said:
I think people put too much expectation/thought into what the government should do for them, and less expectation/thought into what they should do for themselves. I favour the American way in this regard. Privatise as much as possible. Let people self determine, not their state.
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You do realise that what that means is hand power to large organisations, who in turn use that influence to become even richer, where they buy more influence ad infinitum. How much self determination are you left with if you're not part of that elite?
 
Phil V said:
You do realise that what that means is hand power to large organisations, who in turn use that influence to become even richer, where they buy more influence ad infinitum. How much self determination are you left with if you're not part of that elite?
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Ah, I see the point now. In ST4's head, he is part of that elite and therefore, when fox hunting is legalised again, he can pretend it's a big dangerous rhino while he's sitting in his mercedes at the bottom of a field, admiring the bright red coats charging around ahead of him.
 
fabs said:
And this is where this particular political debate end, back to the subject in hand please.
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No, I can see it now :thumbs:
 
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