Getting past that 'bleugh' stage

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Hi guys,

Does anyone have any tips for getting past that stage where every photo you take seems pretty pants? I'm trying to work on manual mode, shaky hands getting really good composition, but every photo I take seems to be poor in quality.

Any suggestions?
 
It is great to learn manual mode, though not if it's turning you off. STick her into M mode those times you're calmer, and not in a rush to be any place. It's really useful to learn at least the basics, because when you start using off cam flash, manual is where you will be mostly.

Just think, once you have the shutter speed at least fast enough to counter blur - say, 1/200th for most situations - you only need worry about the aperture and ISO. That's only 2 things to balance out. Shoot at the widest aperture you got, 2.4/f/4 depending on the lens ... now it's only ISO you need to get right.

Manual mode is nowhere near as hard as some make it out to be. In other modes like aperture priority, the camera just handles shutter speed for you - it's really not that much easier when you think about it.
 
I agree with others, consider shooting in A or S. Most of the time, when you're in full manual, you're only going to select the aperture or shutter that your camera meter tells you to anyway, so why not let it have at?

Chimp! I don't see any point in not looking at the shot you got and using the exposure compensation to make minor adjustments to your exposure - bump it up if darks are too dark, or down when whites are too blown out. I find it a more relaxed shooting routine.

Maybe spend some time on some creative ideation. I have a bad habit of thinking "sunlight.. must go out and find photos!" So most of the time, I'm shooting reactively and the results are often gutless, uninspired, and bleurgh.

When I take the time to sit down and come up with ideas of photos I want to capture, or concepts I want to play with, I tend to get giddy about photography. This is proactive creativity, rather than reactive photography.

Scout, not shoot. Go looking for photo opportunities rather than photos. Take photos, but don't try and bag it in one go. Take photos as preliminary sketches or scouting shots - photos that you can take home and examine.. identify locations that might work, and obstacles to avoid when you go back - in better light, or different light or conditions. It's part of the process of concepting, but you've taken the pressure off yourself by not going out to bag it but as a longer process of getting everything together for the killer shot.

That's the stuff I do when I'm where you are. Maybe there's something in there you can use :)
 
I agree with others, consider shooting in A or S. Most of the time, when you're in full manual, you're only going to select the aperture or shutter that your camera meter tells you to anyway, so why not let it have at?

Chimp! I don't see any point in not looking at the shot you got and using the exposure compensation to make minor adjustments to your exposure - bump it up if darks are too dark, or down when whites are too blown out. I find it a more relaxed shooting routine.

Maybe spend some time on some creative ideation. I have a bad habit of thinking "sunlight.. must go out and find photos!" So most of the time, I'm shooting reactively and the results are often gutless, uninspired, and bleurgh.

When I take the time to sit down and come up with ideas of photos I want to capture, or concepts I want to play with, I tend to get giddy about photography. This is proactive creativity, rather than reactive photography.

Scout, not shoot. Go looking for photo opportunities rather than photos. Take photos, but don't try and bag it in one go. Take photos as preliminary sketches or scouting shots - photos that you can take home and examine.. identify locations that might work, and obstacles to avoid when you go back - in better light, or different light or conditions. It's part of the process of concepting, but you've taken the pressure off yourself by not going out to bag it but as a longer process of getting everything together for the killer shot.

That's the stuff I do when I'm where you are. Maybe there's something in there you can use :)

Thats good solid advice there. Creativity is key to doing good shots as even the most mundane boring household object can be made to look awesome by mastering your camera and lighting conditions. Always remember that you need to control the light and how it falls on the object you want to take a photo of. If you can do that, you can add depth to photos, atmosphere and even feeling, all just from the lighting conditions you control.

If you are stumped for creativity, have a look on 500px popular photos or flickr explore and have a look at the high quality work on offer. Sometimes you'll get an idea form seeing someone elses photo and create your own unique shot from it. I'd also highly recommend reading photography books. The Bryan Peterson flash photography book that my fiance bought me for christmas is a great read and has taught me some things I didn't know, even though I'm a dab hand with a studio head!
 
In addition to the solid advice above I'd recommend having a go at the TP POTY (link in my sig ;) ).

It'll give you a variety of themes to focus on, time to plan & shoot them and sensible critique at the end of the month. You're certain to be operating outside your comfort zone most months which ultimately will help you spot photographic opportunities more generally. You'll also be using the camera in ways that you wouldn't necessarily be exposed to in your normal shooting. In addition you'll be able to compare your images with all the other competitors for extra inspiration and ideas.

I guarantee your photography will improve over the course of the year.
 
We don't know if exposure is the problem yet, or why he feels the quality is poor. I doubt using aperture priority or shutter priority is the reason. After all, you still have to read the meter and make a decision either way. With manual you adjust two dials, and A or S you adjust one... that's pretty much the only difference. If you're not reading the meter correctly in manual, then you're probably not doing so in A or S either.

He could be talking about manual focus for all we know.

@mikebeecham. Can you post an image so we can see what you're talking about?
 
In addition to all the good advice above, I'd add

1) Have a look round the tutorial section of the forum: http://www.talkphotography.co.uk/forums/forumdisplay.php?f=23
2) Work on your composition. I learnt photography in Program (P) mode, so that I could concentrate on my coposition, then moved onto the other modes afterwards. This worked for me, may not work for you.
3) Look on flickr, 500px or the feedback and sharing section of the forum for ideas and inspiration. Maybe post a few pictures and get some conctructive feedback for improvement
4) Practice and patience!
 
I sometimes feel a little bit bleurgh...

I go looking for a picture rather than find a picture and then when im there i rush it. i think its all about taking your time and then once relaxed you will get the shot (or at least it works for me)

Good advice though guys, has made me think a little :-)
 
...Any suggestions?
Show us what you mean. Post a photo, or part of a photo where it seems pants.

Tell us about your camera.
Tell us about your lens.
Tell us about the format of the photographs and the software you're viewing/editing them on.

...

Ah. Maybe you assume everyone reads every thread ;
... I too, got a 600d for Christmas (little treat!). I've also got two kit lenses, 18-55mm and 55-250mm. ...
 
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We don't know if exposure is the problem yet, or why he feels the quality is poor. I doubt using aperture priority or shutter priority is the reason. After all, you still have to read the meter and make a decision either way. With manual you adjust two dials, and A or S you adjust one... that's pretty much the only difference. If you're not reading the meter correctly in manual, then you're probably not doing so in A or S either.

He could be talking about manual focus for all we know.

@mikebeecham. Can you post an image so we can see what you're talking about?

You only deal with 2 dials in manual mode if you are using auto iso. Thats not exactly what most people refer to as manual mode anymore as its more like a more refined P mode lol. I'm not saying theres anything wrong with auto iso as I personally love it, yet a lot of bodies still don't have it, especially the lower priced stuff from canon.
 
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